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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/07/the-two-year-anniversary-of-october-7-on-the-cusp-of-peace/#comment-2825249</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 18:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Tyler:

Those countries have supported a Palestinian state for many many decades. Ye olde 2-state solution. They just came out more formally for it.  Only the US and a couple of Eastern European countries, as well as some Pacific Island countries, have opposed Palestinian statehood, and that&#039;s been the case for a long time (the British and the rest have been abstaining until recently, but that has the effect of support). The war didn&#039;t change anything except making them more bold in their support of Palestinian statehood.  Their motive is both leftist sympathy with the supposed oppressed, some element of anti-Semitism, but most importantly playing to their large Moslem populace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Tyler:</p>
<p>Those countries have supported a Palestinian state for many many decades. Ye olde 2-state solution. They just came out more formally for it.  Only the US and a couple of Eastern European countries, as well as some Pacific Island countries, have opposed Palestinian statehood, and that&#8217;s been the case for a long time (the British and the rest have been abstaining until recently, but that has the effect of support). The war didn&#8217;t change anything except making them more bold in their support of Palestinian statehood.  Their motive is both leftist sympathy with the supposed oppressed, some element of anti-Semitism, but most importantly playing to their large Moslem populace.</p>
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		By: JohnTyler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 14:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Because of Oct 7 and the subsequent Israeli response, Canada, the UK, France and Australia have recently joined those nations supporting a Palestinian state. 

I will chalk that up as a win for Hamas. 

Whatever &quot;peace&quot; treaty is arranged, it will be only a matter of time before any new Palestinian state becomes the property of Hamas and we will all witness, yet again, Hamas terrorists attacks upon Israel. 
And as is the norm, the &quot;world community&quot; will blame Israel for this. 

Wash, rinse, repeat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because of Oct 7 and the subsequent Israeli response, Canada, the UK, France and Australia have recently joined those nations supporting a Palestinian state. </p>
<p>I will chalk that up as a win for Hamas. </p>
<p>Whatever &#8220;peace&#8221; treaty is arranged, it will be only a matter of time before any new Palestinian state becomes the property of Hamas and we will all witness, yet again, Hamas terrorists attacks upon Israel.<br />
And as is the norm, the &#8220;world community&#8221; will blame Israel for this. </p>
<p>Wash, rinse, repeat.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 13:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For my part Mike, to see the problem of judicial supremacy in Israeli politics remain &lt;b&gt;to this day&lt;/b&gt; unresolved (and practically for now unresolvable) in the face of an actual existential war is to teeter on the edge of despair for political good as such or as possibility. It&#039;s kind of fucking grim, or induces in me an over-contemptuous view of human nature, to speak from the heart. I only hope this feeling or inclination is simply a horrible mistake I make.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my part Mike, to see the problem of judicial supremacy in Israeli politics remain <b>to this day</b> unresolved (and practically for now unresolvable) in the face of an actual existential war is to teeter on the edge of despair for political good as such or as possibility. It&#8217;s kind of fucking grim, or induces in me an over-contemptuous view of human nature, to speak from the heart. I only hope this feeling or inclination is simply a horrible mistake I make.</p>
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		By: Mike Plaiss		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 13:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article sdferr. Thanks for posting.

Crazy that I’d completely forgotten the whole “judicial reform” issue that had the left in such a tizzy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article sdferr. Thanks for posting.</p>
<p>Crazy that I’d completely forgotten the whole “judicial reform” issue that had the left in such a tizzy.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 11:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.jns.org/what-have-we-learned-since-oct-7/

Caroline Glick replies to NYT&#039;s Bret Stephens: &quot;What Have We Learned Since Oct. 7th?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.jns.org/what-have-we-learned-since-oct-7/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.jns.org/what-have-we-learned-since-oct-7/</a></p>
<p>Caroline Glick replies to NYT&#8217;s Bret Stephens: &#8220;What Have We Learned Since Oct. 7th?&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 04:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ eeyore mood - Is that documentary the same as this one?
https://nypost.com/2025/08/13/entertainment/tiff-cuts-oct-7-doc-because-hamas-didnt-give-footage-permission/

While searching for the TIFF story, I came across the contemporary report of the massacre by Al Jazeera. I was surprised they even published a post at all, much less one that contained a fairly accurate account.

Other than calling the Hamas cowards &quot;fighters&quot; of course.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/10/what-to-know-about-deadly-hamas-attack-on-the-israeli-music-festival

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Video footage circulating on social media showed the gunmen descending in paragliders on the gathering. Others came by road.
Dozens of Hamas fighters opened fire on the young Israelis who had come together for a night of electronic music to celebrate the Jewish holiday of Sukkot.
Videos compiled by Israeli first responders and posted to the social media site Telegram show armed men plunging into the panicked crowd, mowing down fleeing revellers with bursts of automatic fire.
&lt;b&gt;Many victims were shot in the back as they ran.&lt;/b&gt;
While rockets rained down, revellers said, fighters converged on the festival site while others waited near bomb shelters, gunning down people who were seeking refuge.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ eeyore mood &#8211; Is that documentary the same as this one?<br />
<a href="https://nypost.com/2025/08/13/entertainment/tiff-cuts-oct-7-doc-because-hamas-didnt-give-footage-permission/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nypost.com/2025/08/13/entertainment/tiff-cuts-oct-7-doc-because-hamas-didnt-give-footage-permission/</a></p>
<p>While searching for the TIFF story, I came across the contemporary report of the massacre by Al Jazeera. I was surprised they even published a post at all, much less one that contained a fairly accurate account.</p>
<p>Other than calling the Hamas cowards &#8220;fighters&#8221; of course.<br />
<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/10/what-to-know-about-deadly-hamas-attack-on-the-israeli-music-festival" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/10/what-to-know-about-deadly-hamas-attack-on-the-israeli-music-festival</a></p>
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Video footage circulating on social media showed the gunmen descending in paragliders on the gathering. Others came by road.<br />
Dozens of Hamas fighters opened fire on the young Israelis who had come together for a night of electronic music to celebrate the Jewish holiday of Sukkot.<br />
Videos compiled by Israeli first responders and posted to the social media site Telegram show armed men plunging into the panicked crowd, mowing down fleeing revellers with bursts of automatic fire.<br />
<b>Many victims were shot in the back as they ran.</b><br />
While rockets rained down, revellers said, fighters converged on the festival site while others waited near bomb shelters, gunning down people who were seeking refuge.
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 02:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Again, I&#039;m hoping for agreement but Hamas seems likely to FAFO.

Trump has made it clear that he won&#039;t be rope-a-doped and no doubt Netanyahu has his plans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I&#8217;m hoping for agreement but Hamas seems likely to FAFO.</p>
<p>Trump has made it clear that he won&#8217;t be rope-a-doped and no doubt Netanyahu has his plans.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 02:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hamas is a leopard who will never change its spots.  I suspect that the spots will all have to be removed by force.
I would like to know more about the clashes between armed clans and Hamas. That could be promising in some ways, but is probably just pressure to obtain food or other resources that Hamas might otherwise steal. Probably not a basis for any real political realignment vis a vis Israel. The balance of power may be shifting enough to create a &quot;government of clans&quot; form of &quot;republic&quot; I suppose, but I will defer to our Israeli commenters who are on/near that ground.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamas is a leopard who will never change its spots.  I suspect that the spots will all have to be removed by force.<br />
I would like to know more about the clashes between armed clans and Hamas. That could be promising in some ways, but is probably just pressure to obtain food or other resources that Hamas might otherwise steal. Probably not a basis for any real political realignment vis a vis Israel. The balance of power may be shifting enough to create a &#8220;government of clans&#8221; form of &#8220;republic&#8221; I suppose, but I will defer to our Israeli commenters who are on/near that ground.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 02:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus:

Thanks for getting &quot;The Stranger&quot; reference!

I&#039;m now wondering what my Catholic high school thought in assigning it in our  senior year.

I missed the whole point of the book then. I&#039;m not sure my teacher got it either. 

But existentialism was super cool in those days and great prep for getting into the Good Schools, which many of my classmates managed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus:</p>
<p>Thanks for getting &#8220;The Stranger&#8221; reference!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m now wondering what my Catholic high school thought in assigning it in our  senior year.</p>
<p>I missed the whole point of the book then. I&#8217;m not sure my teacher got it either. </p>
<p>But existentialism was super cool in those days and great prep for getting into the Good Schools, which many of my classmates managed.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 01:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo, Rufus, Mike Plaiss:

I enjoyed the GLoP podcasts before TDS. I only tuned in intermittently after TDS set in. If JPod got better, quicker than I noticed, more power to him.

Though I wouldn&#039;t mind a few receipts.

JPod&#039;s Shylock remark still strikes me as stupid and bigoted. (Did Trump ever mention Shylock in the same breath as Jews?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo, Rufus, Mike Plaiss:</p>
<p>I enjoyed the GLoP podcasts before TDS. I only tuned in intermittently after TDS set in. If JPod got better, quicker than I noticed, more power to him.</p>
<p>Though I wouldn&#8217;t mind a few receipts.</p>
<p>JPod&#8217;s Shylock remark still strikes me as stupid and bigoted. (Did Trump ever mention Shylock in the same breath as Jews?)</p>
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