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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/02/book-bans-in-schools/#comment-2825161</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 23:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My wife was a school librarian for many years.  When a parent would question or challenge a book they would discuss it and about 70% of the time she would move it from the elementary to the middle school libraries and the other 30% of the time she would retain it at elementary but make sure not to put it in special displays. 27 years, no further problems.

Librarians usually don&#039;t want to fight, but library schools and magazines do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife was a school librarian for many years.  When a parent would question or challenge a book they would discuss it and about 70% of the time she would move it from the elementary to the middle school libraries and the other 30% of the time she would retain it at elementary but make sure not to put it in special displays. 27 years, no further problems.</p>
<p>Librarians usually don&#8217;t want to fight, but library schools and magazines do.</p>
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		By: Worthwhile Reading &#8211; Chicago Boyz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 21:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Book &#8216;bans&#8217; in Schools, from Neo. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Book &#8216;bans&#8217; in Schools, from Neo. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 18:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@TommyJay:&lt;i&gt;I’m sure there was a school shooting somewhere that predates 1977, though I haven’t looked.&lt;/i&gt;

The first one I know of that looks &quot;modern&quot;, a student coming to school and shooting at other students, was in Camden, New Jersey in 1914 but nobody died. The first one I know of where someone died as a result was in 1967.

Now there have been a lot of instances of people in schools being shot going back to the 19th century, but those were usually spontaneous fights between habitually-armed students, or an adult shooting at students, or a a student specifically targeting one person, usually a teacher. And a lot of accidental discharges of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TommyJay:<i>I’m sure there was a school shooting somewhere that predates 1977, though I haven’t looked.</i></p>
<p>The first one I know of that looks &#8220;modern&#8221;, a student coming to school and shooting at other students, was in Camden, New Jersey in 1914 but nobody died. The first one I know of where someone died as a result was in 1967.</p>
<p>Now there have been a lot of instances of people in schools being shot going back to the 19th century, but those were usually spontaneous fights between habitually-armed students, or an adult shooting at students, or a a student specifically targeting one person, usually a teacher. And a lot of accidental discharges of course.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 18:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@JohnTyler:&lt;i&gt;“But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.” George Orwell , yet again, describes it best.&lt;/i&gt;

Orwell was describing &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis&lt;/a&gt; which, like Freudianism, had wide currency among the intellectuals of its day but like Freudianism, has since been discredited.

For example, roughly half of human languages lack words that correspond to English &quot;yes&quot; and &quot;no&quot;, like Latin and the Chinese languages, but the people who speak those languages still can think of and express what we mean by them, they just need more words to do it in.

What the Left does with language is more-or-less rhetorical tactics, the most common I see being &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;motte-and-bailey&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;question-begging&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;equivocation.&lt;/a&gt; A child can be trained to see through them. An adult sometimes has difficulty finding the motivation, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JohnTyler:<i>“But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.” George Orwell , yet again, describes it best.</i></p>
<p>Orwell was describing <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity" rel="nofollow ugc">the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis</a> which, like Freudianism, had wide currency among the intellectuals of its day but like Freudianism, has since been discredited.</p>
<p>For example, roughly half of human languages lack words that correspond to English &#8220;yes&#8221; and &#8220;no&#8221;, like Latin and the Chinese languages, but the people who speak those languages still can think of and express what we mean by them, they just need more words to do it in.</p>
<p>What the Left does with language is more-or-less rhetorical tactics, the most common I see being <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy" rel="nofollow ugc">motte-and-bailey</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question" rel="nofollow ugc">question-begging</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation" rel="nofollow ugc">equivocation.</a> A child can be trained to see through them. An adult sometimes has difficulty finding the motivation, though.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 17:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stephen King.  The author that sort of invented the school shooter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_(King_novel)
School shooter Michael Carneal actually had a copy of King&#039;s novel.

I&#039;m sure there was a school shooting somewhere that predates 1977, though I haven&#039;t looked.

I was sufficiently impressed with the old movie Christine (1983), that I decided to read the King novel on which it was based.  I thought it was rather good.  John Carpenter directed the film, and then young heartthrob actor John Stockwell later became a decent director in his own right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen King.  The author that sort of invented the school shooter.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_(King_novel)" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_(King_novel)</a><br />
School shooter Michael Carneal actually had a copy of King&#8217;s novel.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there was a school shooting somewhere that predates 1977, though I haven&#8217;t looked.</p>
<p>I was sufficiently impressed with the old movie Christine (1983), that I decided to read the King novel on which it was based.  I thought it was rather good.  John Carpenter directed the film, and then young heartthrob actor John Stockwell later became a decent director in his own right.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/02/book-bans-in-schools/#comment-2824655</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 17:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m remembering a lapsed employee of Norman Lear&#039;s People for the American Way writing in &lt;i&gt;Harper&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; many years ago what the &#039;Most Challenged Book&#039; citation meant when you looked under the hood.  He reported that a year&#039;s &#039;Most Challenged Book&#039; typically had accumulated fewer than ten complaints and a typical &#039;challenge&#039; was one parent&#039;s gripe, about which nothing was done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m remembering a lapsed employee of Norman Lear&#8217;s People for the American Way writing in <i>Harper&#8217;s</i> many years ago what the &#8216;Most Challenged Book&#8217; citation meant when you looked under the hood.  He reported that a year&#8217;s &#8216;Most Challenged Book&#8217; typically had accumulated fewer than ten complaints and a typical &#8216;challenge&#8217; was one parent&#8217;s gripe, about which nothing was done.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/02/book-bans-in-schools/#comment-2824637</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 13:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Manipulating language, ye’ say?
Distorting it?
Subverting it?
Perverting it?
Faking it?

Well, OK, but the experts tell us it’s for the greater good…

Well, mostly… (but whose?)
Um, sometimes?
Er, hardly ever?
(So who ye’ gonna call…? Symantyx-Busters?)

“Erasing Encephalitis — Why Vaccine Brain Injuries Became Autism”—
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2025/10/03/why-vaccine-brain-injuries-became-autism.aspx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manipulating language, ye’ say?<br />
Distorting it?<br />
Subverting it?<br />
Perverting it?<br />
Faking it?</p>
<p>Well, OK, but the experts tell us it’s for the greater good…</p>
<p>Well, mostly… (but whose?)<br />
Um, sometimes?<br />
Er, hardly ever?<br />
(So who ye’ gonna call…? Symantyx-Busters?)</p>
<p>“Erasing Encephalitis — Why Vaccine Brain Injuries Became Autism”—<br />
<a href="https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2025/10/03/why-vaccine-brain-injuries-became-autism.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2025/10/03/why-vaccine-brain-injuries-became-autism.aspx</a></p>
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		By: JohnTyler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 13:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.&quot;

&quot;There is no swifter route to the corruption of thought than through the corruption of language.&quot;

George Orwell , yet again, describes it best.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no swifter route to the corruption of thought than through the corruption of language.&#8221;</p>
<p>George Orwell , yet again, describes it best.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 12:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Rufus T. Firefly:&lt;i&gt;I’m pretty sure that was the first time I encountered the word, “chifforobe.”&lt;/i&gt;

My generation all had to read &lt;i&gt;To Kill a Mockingbird&lt;/i&gt; and encountered the word there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rufus T. Firefly:<i>I’m pretty sure that was the first time I encountered the word, “chifforobe.”</i></p>
<p>My generation all had to read <i>To Kill a Mockingbird</i> and encountered the word there.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/10/02/book-bans-in-schools/#comment-2824632</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 12:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[buddhaha,

At my public school we read &quot;The Yearling&quot; as a class. I don&#039;t recall what grade I was in. I&#039;m pretty sure that was the first time I encountered the word, &quot;chifforobe.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buddhaha,</p>
<p>At my public school we read &#8220;The Yearling&#8221; as a class. I don&#8217;t recall what grade I was in. I&#8217;m pretty sure that was the first time I encountered the word, &#8220;chifforobe.&#8221;</p>
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