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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[let&#039;s be honest, they killed kirk because he helped trump win and will help future republicans win, has nothing to do with his views or his words or whatever, it is about chopping off trump&#039;s right hand, period.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s be honest, they killed kirk because he helped trump win and will help future republicans win, has nothing to do with his views or his words or whatever, it is about chopping off trump&#8217;s right hand, period.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 22:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“Children should be able to transition [identify as the opposite sex, socially or medically] without parental consent,” 
This is of course impossible. You can&#039;t change your sex by an act of will. Years ago, I read a book (yes, I have read a book) on the psychological origins of political correctness, The author pointed out that the PC (now woke) deny reality and live in fantasy land. It&#039;s magical thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Children should be able to transition [identify as the opposite sex, socially or medically] without parental consent,”<br />
This is of course impossible. You can&#8217;t change your sex by an act of will. Years ago, I read a book (yes, I have read a book) on the psychological origins of political correctness, The author pointed out that the PC (now woke) deny reality and live in fantasy land. It&#8217;s magical thinking.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 20:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@mark:&lt;i&gt;Z has become a smug, bitter liberal and his Facebook posts over the last few days are all vile posts basically saying CK deserved it. No compassion for the wife and children. &lt;/i&gt;

If you haven&#039;t read &lt;i&gt;The Great Divorce&lt;/i&gt; by C. S. Lewis, you might. There is more than one passage relevant to such people, but here is one you might think about, and then read the book with your friend in mind.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;What troubles ye, son?&quot; asked my Teacher. &quot;I am troubled, Sir,&quot; said I, &quot;because that unhappy creature doesn&#039;t seem to me to be the sort of soul that ought to be even in danger of damnation. She isn&#039;t wicked: she&#039;s only a silly, garrulous old woman who has got into a habit of grumbling, and one feels that a little kindness, and rest, and change would put her all right.&quot;

&quot;That is what she once was. That is maybe what she still is. If so, she certainly will be cured. But the whole question is whether she is now a grumbler.&quot;

&quot;I should have thought there was no doubt about that!&quot;

&quot;Aye, but ye misunderstand me. The question is whether she is a grumbler, or only a grumble. If there is a real woman-even the least trace of one-still there inside the grumbling, it can be brought to life again. If there&#039;s one wee spark under all those ashes, we&#039;ll blow it till the whole pile is red and clear. But if there&#039;s nothing but ashes we&#039;ll not go on blowing them in our own eyes forever. They must be swept up.&quot;

&quot;But how can there be a grumble without a grumbler?&quot;

&quot;The whole difficulty of understanding Hell is that the thing to be understood is so nearly Nothing. But ye&#039;ll have had experiences ... it begins with a grumbling mood, and yourself still distinct from it: perhaps criticising it. And yourself, in a dark hour, may will that mood, embrace it. Ye can repent and come out of it again. But there may come a day when you can do that no longer. Then there will be no you left to criticise the mood, nor even to enjoy it, but just the grumble itself going on forever like a machine....&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mark:<i>Z has become a smug, bitter liberal and his Facebook posts over the last few days are all vile posts basically saying CK deserved it. No compassion for the wife and children. </i></p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t read <i>The Great Divorce</i> by C. S. Lewis, you might. There is more than one passage relevant to such people, but here is one you might think about, and then read the book with your friend in mind.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;What troubles ye, son?&#8221; asked my Teacher. &#8220;I am troubled, Sir,&#8221; said I, &#8220;because that unhappy creature doesn&#8217;t seem to me to be the sort of soul that ought to be even in danger of damnation. She isn&#8217;t wicked: she&#8217;s only a silly, garrulous old woman who has got into a habit of grumbling, and one feels that a little kindness, and rest, and change would put her all right.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;That is what she once was. That is maybe what she still is. If so, she certainly will be cured. But the whole question is whether she is now a grumbler.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I should have thought there was no doubt about that!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Aye, but ye misunderstand me. The question is whether she is a grumbler, or only a grumble. If there is a real woman-even the least trace of one-still there inside the grumbling, it can be brought to life again. If there&#8217;s one wee spark under all those ashes, we&#8217;ll blow it till the whole pile is red and clear. But if there&#8217;s nothing but ashes we&#8217;ll not go on blowing them in our own eyes forever. They must be swept up.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But how can there be a grumble without a grumbler?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The whole difficulty of understanding Hell is that the thing to be understood is so nearly Nothing. But ye&#8217;ll have had experiences &#8230; it begins with a grumbling mood, and yourself still distinct from it: perhaps criticising it. And yourself, in a dark hour, may will that mood, embrace it. Ye can repent and come out of it again. But there may come a day when you can do that no longer. Then there will be no you left to criticise the mood, nor even to enjoy it, but just the grumble itself going on forever like a machine&#8230;.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 19:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark

I&#039;ll try.  As our hostess has suggested, going back to her Change, for many leftists, their political/cultural views are part of, support their self-image.  Thus, any objective contradiction to the factual basis of one or another viewpoint is an attack on the person&#039;s personhood (permission to use without attribution).
Thus, your old friend cannot accept that something which has supported his self-image to himself and his social image to others as he wished to be seen was not only incorrect but morally suspect.
I speak of a general view, a particular view, which predated Kirk but into which Kirk was placed immediately and with malicious enjoyment.  Can&#039;t kick that prop out from under the house.
In fact, it demands extra defensive efforts.

Sucks to be him, Parkinsons notwithstanding.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try.  As our hostess has suggested, going back to her Change, for many leftists, their political/cultural views are part of, support their self-image.  Thus, any objective contradiction to the factual basis of one or another viewpoint is an attack on the person&#8217;s personhood (permission to use without attribution).<br />
Thus, your old friend cannot accept that something which has supported his self-image to himself and his social image to others as he wished to be seen was not only incorrect but morally suspect.<br />
I speak of a general view, a particular view, which predated Kirk but into which Kirk was placed immediately and with malicious enjoyment.  Can&#8217;t kick that prop out from under the house.<br />
In fact, it demands extra defensive efforts.</p>
<p>Sucks to be him, Parkinsons notwithstanding.</p>
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		By: mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 19:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comment and question for neo and the group: My old college roommate I’ll call Z,age 67, is basically immobile due to Parkinson’s. He is divorced twice and estranged from his only son. We were all liberals back in college but most all except Z grew up into traditional Christians and all with marriages over 40 years and mostly happy from what I can tell. Z has become a smug, bitter liberal and his Facebook posts over the last few days are all vile posts basically saying CK deserved it. No compassion for the wife and children.  Questions: 1. What is the source of the smugness? I know that vice affects non liberals as well but it seems almost universal in the liberal community.2. I engaged with him over his vile posts but know it  did little good. Is the better strategy a) morally: Continuing to be Jesus hands and feet b) working for a mid term win for Conservatives]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment and question for neo and the group: My old college roommate I’ll call Z,age 67, is basically immobile due to Parkinson’s. He is divorced twice and estranged from his only son. We were all liberals back in college but most all except Z grew up into traditional Christians and all with marriages over 40 years and mostly happy from what I can tell. Z has become a smug, bitter liberal and his Facebook posts over the last few days are all vile posts basically saying CK deserved it. No compassion for the wife and children.  Questions: 1. What is the source of the smugness? I know that vice affects non liberals as well but it seems almost universal in the liberal community.2. I engaged with him over his vile posts but know it  did little good. Is the better strategy a) morally: Continuing to be Jesus hands and feet b) working for a mid term win for Conservatives</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 17:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve enjoyed watching Charlie Kirk in his discussions with the college kids.  Enlightening.  But I am absolutely gobsmacked at the international reactions.  Some of it may be due to the timing--the UK&#039;s take back our nation march, for example.  But...South Korea?
A haka in London in his honor?
I had no idea about his international impact.

But I suspect it required much domestic outrage to cross the oceans.  And I have a feeling that it started earlier.

The murder of a Ukranian refugee on a train had all the factors requiring it to be hushed up; racial lineup, no excuse, deliberate result of progressive law enforcement (see the judiciay&#039;s racial lineup) , no help from fellow passengers.

Yet it had the ingredients for being explosive; racial lineup, former model curled up on horror as she died, judicial system&#039;s deliberate efforts. Available in full-color with stop-action.   And that caused it to &quot;smash though the gatekeepers&quot; whose efforts were themselves inflammatory.

And then....we had an equally horrible execution of an innocent and early attempts to smooth over the obvious.....JUST LIKE WITH IRYNA!  imho, domestically, the Kirk reaction got a boost from the simmering rage about Iryna and the treatment by the gatekeepers.  

It will be a long time before people quit looking for further examples.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed watching Charlie Kirk in his discussions with the college kids.  Enlightening.  But I am absolutely gobsmacked at the international reactions.  Some of it may be due to the timing&#8211;the UK&#8217;s take back our nation march, for example.  But&#8230;South Korea?<br />
A haka in London in his honor?<br />
I had no idea about his international impact.</p>
<p>But I suspect it required much domestic outrage to cross the oceans.  And I have a feeling that it started earlier.</p>
<p>The murder of a Ukranian refugee on a train had all the factors requiring it to be hushed up; racial lineup, no excuse, deliberate result of progressive law enforcement (see the judiciay&#8217;s racial lineup) , no help from fellow passengers.</p>
<p>Yet it had the ingredients for being explosive; racial lineup, former model curled up on horror as she died, judicial system&#8217;s deliberate efforts. Available in full-color with stop-action.   And that caused it to &#8220;smash though the gatekeepers&#8221; whose efforts were themselves inflammatory.</p>
<p>And then&#8230;.we had an equally horrible execution of an innocent and early attempts to smooth over the obvious&#8230;..JUST LIKE WITH IRYNA!  imho, domestically, the Kirk reaction got a boost from the simmering rage about Iryna and the treatment by the gatekeepers.  </p>
<p>It will be a long time before people quit looking for further examples.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The facts are not the point, incitement is the point ive encountered some of these baldfaced liars on other platforms

There has been much hope but there has been much vileness expressed not only against charlie but against his wife and children

Then there is the bland equivocation by possum governor cox and senator lankford thats not surprising considering their record]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The facts are not the point, incitement is the point ive encountered some of these baldfaced liars on other platforms</p>
<p>There has been much hope but there has been much vileness expressed not only against charlie but against his wife and children</p>
<p>Then there is the bland equivocation by possum governor cox and senator lankford thats not surprising considering their record</p>
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		By: Mitchell Strand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mitchell Strand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a phrase uttered about the dead when those left behind try to live up to them in some way, or are startled by mortality and seek to organize their lives to improve it: &quot;That&#039;s what he/she would have wanted.&quot;

It sometimes rings hollow. The speaker is maybe guessing, or is expressing what they themselves wanted the person seeking to improve to do.

But young men and women are turning from violence, churches are filling up, and I saw several people on X saying they were going back to church after years or even decades.

Having only watched Charlie Kirk&#039;s videos, his interviews, and listened to a few of his podcasts, it doesn&#039;t seem hollow to say:

&quot;That&#039;s just what he would have wanted.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a phrase uttered about the dead when those left behind try to live up to them in some way, or are startled by mortality and seek to organize their lives to improve it: &#8220;That&#8217;s what he/she would have wanted.&#8221;</p>
<p>It sometimes rings hollow. The speaker is maybe guessing, or is expressing what they themselves wanted the person seeking to improve to do.</p>
<p>But young men and women are turning from violence, churches are filling up, and I saw several people on X saying they were going back to church after years or even decades.</p>
<p>Having only watched Charlie Kirk&#8217;s videos, his interviews, and listened to a few of his podcasts, it doesn&#8217;t seem hollow to say:</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s just what he would have wanted.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 12:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find it pretty ironic that Lefties who were stupid enough to go on the Internet and to gleefully &quot;vent,&quot; and say how happy they were that Charley Kirk was assassinated  (I guess they figured that pretty much everyone agreed with them, and in their Leftist echo chamber they were probably right) then cry and whine about being fired when their employers got wind of their comments. 

As the  say, &quot;turn about is fair play.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it pretty ironic that Lefties who were stupid enough to go on the Internet and to gleefully &#8220;vent,&#8221; and say how happy they were that Charley Kirk was assassinated  (I guess they figured that pretty much everyone agreed with them, and in their Leftist echo chamber they were probably right) then cry and whine about being fired when their employers got wind of their comments. </p>
<p>As the  say, &#8220;turn about is fair play.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 11:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Anderson Cooper was a real “reporter” or TV “journalist” &lt;/i&gt;
==
What&#039;s disconcerting about Cooper is that he got his start as a freelance foreign correspondent. He used to be a reporter.  
==
He could have departed CNN after Jeff Zucker took over what was left of the network and returned to freelancing or landed a program on Sirius XM.  CNN had (by all accounts) paid him exorbitant sums of money over a period of ten years, so he had an ample private income.  He&#039;s never married and the &#039;children&#039; he has are those assigned him about ten years ago by social workers and family court judges. (His inherited wealth is modest.  His mother was a poor steward of the family assets and her bequests to Cooper and his brother Stan amounted to about $1.5 million each).  He&#039;s Regime Media by choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Anderson Cooper was a real “reporter” or TV “journalist” </i><br />
==<br />
What&#8217;s disconcerting about Cooper is that he got his start as a freelance foreign correspondent. He used to be a reporter.<br />
==<br />
He could have departed CNN after Jeff Zucker took over what was left of the network and returned to freelancing or landed a program on Sirius XM.  CNN had (by all accounts) paid him exorbitant sums of money over a period of ten years, so he had an ample private income.  He&#8217;s never married and the &#8216;children&#8217; he has are those assigned him about ten years ago by social workers and family court judges. (His inherited wealth is modest.  His mother was a poor steward of the family assets and her bequests to Cooper and his brother Stan amounted to about $1.5 million each).  He&#8217;s Regime Media by choice.</p>
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