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		By: Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup &#187; Pirate&#039;s Cove		</title>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 02:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley:
&lt;b&gt;Nonetheless, “Foreign Affairs” is on the case!&lt;/b&gt;
As other commenters have already pointed out, Israel has  already attempted &quot;compromise and peaceful coexistence.&quot; Apparently Foreign Policy wants Israel to pursue what hasn&#039;t previously worked, in the hope that THIS TIME it will work. Just like &quot;real Socialism hasn&#039;t been tried yet.&quot; 

Foreign Policy dixit:&lt;blockquote&gt;Although the two-state solution has become anathema to many Israelis, it remains the best hope for their prosperity and security. That having a state of their own would be good for the Palestinians goes without saying. But it would also be good for Israel; indeed, helping to bring about a Palestinian state has the potential to serve Israel just as much as it would serve others.&lt;/blockquote&gt; The Palis do not support the two-state solution. Consider a November, 2023 poll, where only 17% supported a two-state solution.  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public%20Opinion%20Poll%20-%20Gaza%20War%202023%20-%20Tables%20of%20Results.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; AWRAD: Public Opinion Poll - Gaza War 2023 - Tables of Results (14 November  2023)&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Table 33: Do you support the solution of establishing one state or two states in the following formats: 
Two-state solution for two peoples	17%
A Palestinian state from the river to the sea  	75%
One state solution for two peoples		5%&lt;/blockquote&gt;Since the Palestinians overwhelmingly reject the two solutions involving &quot;two peoples,&quot; it is fair to conclude that  the 75% of Palestinians who support &quot;A Palestinian state from the river to the sea&quot;--- envisage a Palestine consisting of only one people. That is, they envisage Palestine  &quot;from the river to the sea&quot;  as being &lt;i&gt;Judenrein&lt;/i&gt;  (free of Jews). 

Great advice, Foreign Policy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley:<br />
<b>Nonetheless, “Foreign Affairs” is on the case!</b><br />
As other commenters have already pointed out, Israel has  already attempted &#8220;compromise and peaceful coexistence.&#8221; Apparently Foreign Policy wants Israel to pursue what hasn&#8217;t previously worked, in the hope that THIS TIME it will work. Just like &#8220;real Socialism hasn&#8217;t been tried yet.&#8221; </p>
<p>Foreign Policy dixit:</p>
<blockquote><p>Although the two-state solution has become anathema to many Israelis, it remains the best hope for their prosperity and security. That having a state of their own would be good for the Palestinians goes without saying. But it would also be good for Israel; indeed, helping to bring about a Palestinian state has the potential to serve Israel just as much as it would serve others.</p></blockquote>
<p> The Palis do not support the two-state solution. Consider a November, 2023 poll, where only 17% supported a two-state solution.  <a href="https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public%20Opinion%20Poll%20-%20Gaza%20War%202023%20-%20Tables%20of%20Results.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc"> AWRAD: Public Opinion Poll &#8211; Gaza War 2023 &#8211; Tables of Results (14 November  2023)</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Table 33: Do you support the solution of establishing one state or two states in the following formats:<br />
Two-state solution for two peoples	17%<br />
A Palestinian state from the river to the sea  	75%<br />
One state solution for two peoples		5%</p></blockquote>
<p>Since the Palestinians overwhelmingly reject the two solutions involving &#8220;two peoples,&#8221; it is fair to conclude that  the 75% of Palestinians who support &#8220;A Palestinian state from the river to the sea&#8221;&#8212; envisage a Palestine consisting of only one people. That is, they envisage Palestine  &#8220;from the river to the sea&#8221;  as being <i>Judenrein</i>  (free of Jews). </p>
<p>Great advice, Foreign Policy.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 02:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Abe Greenwald article opening grafs:

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It’s becoming clear that Israel is in the process of creating a new world. In the pre–October 7 world, legitimate governments let terrorists kill a little, then hide a little, negotiate a little, and kill a little more. And Israel was expected to play along. In the world being born, Israel kills terrorists, wherever they are and at whatever point in their cycle. This is to be a world of greater moral coherence, swifter justice, and more enduring security.  

In short, it’s a saner, more civilized world. Which means the unstable populations of the West can’t bear to watch it take shape. Too bad. 

You can wrap yourself in a keffiyeh and chant Hamas slogans from freshman year until you’re eligible for Social Security. But Hamas, that entity that Israel supposedly couldn’t destroy, is all but destroyed. Hezbollah is on its way out, the Houthis are under attack, Iran is under rubble, Assad’s Syria is history, and Qatar is out of the terrorist-resort business….&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abe Greenwald article opening grafs:</p>
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It’s becoming clear that Israel is in the process of creating a new world. In the pre–October 7 world, legitimate governments let terrorists kill a little, then hide a little, negotiate a little, and kill a little more. And Israel was expected to play along. In the world being born, Israel kills terrorists, wherever they are and at whatever point in their cycle. This is to be a world of greater moral coherence, swifter justice, and more enduring security.  </p>
<p>In short, it’s a saner, more civilized world. Which means the unstable populations of the West can’t bear to watch it take shape. Too bad. </p>
<p>You can wrap yourself in a keffiyeh and chant Hamas slogans from freshman year until you’re eligible for Social Security. But Hamas, that entity that Israel supposedly couldn’t destroy, is all but destroyed. Hezbollah is on its way out, the Houthis are under attack, Iran is under rubble, Assad’s Syria is history, and Qatar is out of the terrorist-resort business….</p></blockquote>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 02:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not always thrilled by what Commentary Magazine’s Abe Greenwald has to say, but when he’s right he’s right…(at least I hope so):

“Israel is remaking the map”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not always thrilled by what Commentary Magazine’s Abe Greenwald has to say, but when he’s right he’s right…(at least I hope so):</p>
<p>“Israel is remaking the map”</p>
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		By: West TX Intermediate Crude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 02:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WRT the Middle East, I learned long ago to pay zero attention to anything said by any of the players.
Pay attention to what is done, instead.
The real challenge is figuring out exactly what has been done, and who did it.
The words from the White House briefing room mean nothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WRT the Middle East, I learned long ago to pay zero attention to anything said by any of the players.<br />
Pay attention to what is done, instead.<br />
The real challenge is figuring out exactly what has been done, and who did it.<br />
The words from the White House briefing room mean nothing.</p>
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		By: James Sisco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Sisco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 02:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Hamastinians were given a golden opportunity back in 2006 when Israel left Gaza. They were given a place with decent infrastructure, the foreign aid poured in, and they had an election. Where was France and Germany then? Where was the UN? Where were the Hollywood know-it -all&#039;s? Did they monitor the election to ensure the people didn&#039;t do something stupid like putting terrorists into power?
Now they have nothing. It would be crazy for Israel to submit to a 2-state solution with those people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hamastinians were given a golden opportunity back in 2006 when Israel left Gaza. They were given a place with decent infrastructure, the foreign aid poured in, and they had an election. Where was France and Germany then? Where was the UN? Where were the Hollywood know-it -all&#8217;s? Did they monitor the election to ensure the people didn&#8217;t do something stupid like putting terrorists into power?<br />
Now they have nothing. It would be crazy for Israel to submit to a 2-state solution with those people.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 02:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
…Furthermore, two of the Hamas leaders killed are, from what I understand, negotiators involved in the ceasefire negotiations. I don’t disagree but that is crossing a line…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK, but just a teeny-weeny, itsy-bitsy little fix is required here:

&lt;blockquote&gt;OK, but just a teeny weeny itsy bitty little fix is required here….
…Furthermore, two of the Hamas leaders killed are, from what I understand, “negotiators” involved in the ceasefire “negotiations”. I don’t disagree but that is crossing a line…
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
…Furthermore, two of the Hamas leaders killed are, from what I understand, negotiators involved in the ceasefire negotiations. I don’t disagree but that is crossing a line…</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, but just a teeny-weeny, itsy-bitsy little fix is required here:</p>
<blockquote><p>OK, but just a teeny weeny itsy bitty little fix is required here….<br />
…Furthermore, two of the Hamas leaders killed are, from what I understand, “negotiators” involved in the ceasefire “negotiations”. I don’t disagree but that is crossing a line…
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 02:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hold on, didn’t Israel offer a two-state solution three times since Oslo?

(To be sure, it certainly behooves one to forget / ignore / scoff at this, um, peculiar quibble.)

Does Richard Ha-Ha-Ha-Haas have ANYTHING to say on the matter?

Not that it really DOES matter one way or the other…since the decision has pretty much been made: 
Israel REFUSES to be destroyed—make that, “UNCONSCIONABLY REFUSES to be destroyed”. 
THEREFORE, IT MUST BE DESTROYED.

Indeed, the wisest of wise moralists and judges, pundits and pontificators, ethicists and educators, have come to the only conclusion possible, given their level of morality, ethics, discernment and judgment:
GAME, SET, MATCH HAMAS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold on, didn’t Israel offer a two-state solution three times since Oslo?</p>
<p>(To be sure, it certainly behooves one to forget / ignore / scoff at this, um, peculiar quibble.)</p>
<p>Does Richard Ha-Ha-Ha-Haas have ANYTHING to say on the matter?</p>
<p>Not that it really DOES matter one way or the other…since the decision has pretty much been made:<br />
Israel REFUSES to be destroyed—make that, “UNCONSCIONABLY REFUSES to be destroyed”.<br />
THEREFORE, IT MUST BE DESTROYED.</p>
<p>Indeed, the wisest of wise moralists and judges, pundits and pontificators, ethicists and educators, have come to the only conclusion possible, given their level of morality, ethics, discernment and judgment:<br />
GAME, SET, MATCH HAMAS.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 01:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nonetheless, &quot;Foreign Affairs&quot; is on the case!
______________________________

&lt;i&gt;Israel faces a stark choice. It will either need to make a sincere bid for compromise and peaceful coexistence with the Palestinians or risk losing the international support that its long-term well-being requires. &lt;b&gt;Although the two-state solution has become anathema to many Israelis, it remains the best hope for their prosperity and security. That having a state of their own would be good for the Palestinians goes without saying. But it would also be good for Israel; indeed, helping to bring about a Palestinian state has the potential to serve Israel just as much as it would serve others.&lt;/b&gt;

--Richard Haas, &quot;A Palestinian State Would Be Good for Israel: The Chance for a Two-State Solution Still Exists—but Won’t for Long&quot;
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/palestinian-state-would-be-good-israel&lt;/i&gt;
______________________________

A two-state solution ... now more than ever! But only If You Act Now!

Sadly Israel has turned its back on the wise Richard Haas&#039;s of the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonetheless, &#8220;Foreign Affairs&#8221; is on the case!<br />
______________________________</p>
<p><i>Israel faces a stark choice. It will either need to make a sincere bid for compromise and peaceful coexistence with the Palestinians or risk losing the international support that its long-term well-being requires. <b>Although the two-state solution has become anathema to many Israelis, it remains the best hope for their prosperity and security. That having a state of their own would be good for the Palestinians goes without saying. But it would also be good for Israel; indeed, helping to bring about a Palestinian state has the potential to serve Israel just as much as it would serve others.</b></p>
<p>&#8211;Richard Haas, &#8220;A Palestinian State Would Be Good for Israel: The Chance for a Two-State Solution Still Exists—but Won’t for Long&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/palestinian-state-would-be-good-israel" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/palestinian-state-would-be-good-israel</a></i><br />
______________________________</p>
<p>A two-state solution &#8230; now more than ever! But only If You Act Now!</p>
<p>Sadly Israel has turned its back on the wise Richard Haas&#8217;s of the world.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 01:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So ... looks like Israel has given up on diplomacy for now. Not that I blame them. However, they are boldly going where no Israel has gone before.

For the first time Israel has attacked on Qatar soil. Qatar’s leaders are not amused.

Furthermore, two of the Hamas leaders killed are, from what I understand, negotiators involved in the ceasefire negotiations. I don&#039;t disagree but that is crossing a line.

It also appears that Israel is finally going to clear Gaza City in order to destroy Hamas. 
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&lt;i&gt;–“Israeli military evacuation order triggers panic in Gaza City”
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-military-evacuation-order-triggers-panic-gaza-city-2025-09-09/&lt;/i&gt;
_____________________________

The rest of the world will do the cowardly things the rest of the world does\. But Israel is strong and Trump has its back.

So, that’s it for negotiations until Israel finishes this chapter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8230; looks like Israel has given up on diplomacy for now. Not that I blame them. However, they are boldly going where no Israel has gone before.</p>
<p>For the first time Israel has attacked on Qatar soil. Qatar’s leaders are not amused.</p>
<p>Furthermore, two of the Hamas leaders killed are, from what I understand, negotiators involved in the ceasefire negotiations. I don&#8217;t disagree but that is crossing a line.</p>
<p>It also appears that Israel is finally going to clear Gaza City in order to destroy Hamas.<br />
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<p><i>–“Israeli military evacuation order triggers panic in Gaza City”<br />
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-military-evacuation-order-triggers-panic-gaza-city-2025-09-09/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-military-evacuation-order-triggers-panic-gaza-city-2025-09-09/</a></i><br />
_____________________________</p>
<p>The rest of the world will do the cowardly things the rest of the world does\. But Israel is strong and Trump has its back.</p>
<p>So, that’s it for negotiations until Israel finishes this chapter.</p>
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