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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/08/05/open-thread-8-5-2025/#comment-2815499</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2025 03:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I inherited the metal dinette table from my folks, although the chairs are long gone. One of our sons lives in a house that still has the pink and mint-green tiles in one bathroom (the original one), and they painted over the yellow metal tiles on the kitchen wall. Several of the bedrooms had circus motifs on the walls, which we also had, although ours was made by my mother and not store-bought. I had never realized it was the trending decor.

Frankly, I do not like the &quot;spare elegant lines&quot; of the furniture of that era, which I found very uncomfortable, and we never had any of it; mostly comfoatable over-stuffed chairs. Our sofa-bed was a design I&#039;ve never seen elsewhere: the seat and back were a single unit that flattened out to make the bed, and the area underneath was a storage box for linens.

As for what was the most significant technological change from the late 19th to 20th century: the washing machine wins hands down. I remember going to grandma and grandpa&#039;s farm, which featured the newest version, with an electric wringer above the tub.

Our Mission Site in Wyoming, where we were the last two summers, had the original ranch wash-house, which contained a variety of clothes washing appliances, beginning with the plain metal tub and progressing through various improvements in function (two tubs connected by a wringer came next) up to three different styles of electric machines. The school kids on field trips were a little dubious when I told them they were looking at high tech, since they only associate the term with computers and phones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I inherited the metal dinette table from my folks, although the chairs are long gone. One of our sons lives in a house that still has the pink and mint-green tiles in one bathroom (the original one), and they painted over the yellow metal tiles on the kitchen wall. Several of the bedrooms had circus motifs on the walls, which we also had, although ours was made by my mother and not store-bought. I had never realized it was the trending decor.</p>
<p>Frankly, I do not like the &#8220;spare elegant lines&#8221; of the furniture of that era, which I found very uncomfortable, and we never had any of it; mostly comfoatable over-stuffed chairs. Our sofa-bed was a design I&#8217;ve never seen elsewhere: the seat and back were a single unit that flattened out to make the bed, and the area underneath was a storage box for linens.</p>
<p>As for what was the most significant technological change from the late 19th to 20th century: the washing machine wins hands down. I remember going to grandma and grandpa&#8217;s farm, which featured the newest version, with an electric wringer above the tub.</p>
<p>Our Mission Site in Wyoming, where we were the last two summers, had the original ranch wash-house, which contained a variety of clothes washing appliances, beginning with the plain metal tub and progressing through various improvements in function (two tubs connected by a wringer came next) up to three different styles of electric machines. The school kids on field trips were a little dubious when I told them they were looking at high tech, since they only associate the term with computers and phones.</p>
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		By: sparkee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2025 02:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sputnik chandeliers! :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sputnik chandeliers! 🙂</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 15:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d prefer to retrocede DC to Maryland so the Democrats can&#039;t use a temporary majority to add two senators.  Though, from the condition of Baltimore, it appears to be state policy in Maryland to just let their ill-governed jurisdictions burn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer to retrocede DC to Maryland so the Democrats can&#8217;t use a temporary majority to add two senators.  Though, from the condition of Baltimore, it appears to be state policy in Maryland to just let their ill-governed jurisdictions burn.</p>
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		By: BenDavid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 12:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The 1st round of suburban living was a little raw - in Levittown, the kitchen cabinets were of plywood. Not yet covered with Formica. Postforming of fancy moldings was not yet invented.

As a former New Yorker my nostalgic tastes go back to pre-WWII Art Deco buildings with charming, yet modern window treatments (casement windows and glass block, anyone?)... they also had groovy geometrical niches and other plasterwork that coexists well with the modernist IKEA aesthetic.

And large closets!! A friend renovated a NY apartment and now has a home office in a huge closet that once housed a Murphy bed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1st round of suburban living was a little raw &#8211; in Levittown, the kitchen cabinets were of plywood. Not yet covered with Formica. Postforming of fancy moldings was not yet invented.</p>
<p>As a former New Yorker my nostalgic tastes go back to pre-WWII Art Deco buildings with charming, yet modern window treatments (casement windows and glass block, anyone?)&#8230; they also had groovy geometrical niches and other plasterwork that coexists well with the modernist IKEA aesthetic.</p>
<p>And large closets!! A friend renovated a NY apartment and now has a home office in a huge closet that once housed a Murphy bed.</p>
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		By: Molly Brown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 03:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not a big fan of Mid Century Modern, and Mom&#039;s taste was more on the French Provincial side, but STG, my sister still has the the exact wrought iron patio furniture in this vid!
And we both mourn the glass &#039;Poodle&#039; lamp that somehow slipped through our fingers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of Mid Century Modern, and Mom&#8217;s taste was more on the French Provincial side, but STG, my sister still has the the exact wrought iron patio furniture in this vid!<br />
And we both mourn the glass &#8216;Poodle&#8217; lamp that somehow slipped through our fingers&#8230;</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 01:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Post Millennial, &quot;Elon Musk backs Trump over federalization of Washington, DC after DOGE staffer brutally beaten&quot; -- https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1952874798155268157

DC is a cesspit, sho&#039;nuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Post Millennial, &#8220;Elon Musk backs Trump over federalization of Washington, DC after DOGE staffer brutally beaten&#8221; &#8212; <a href="https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1952874798155268157" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1952874798155268157</a></p>
<p>DC is a cesspit, sho&#8217;nuff.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 01:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Heh. Photo at link: https://x.com/emzanotti/status/1952859059952009469]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. Photo at link: <a href="https://x.com/emzanotti/status/1952859059952009469" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/emzanotti/status/1952859059952009469</a></p>
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		By: fullmoon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 00:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;huxley on August 5, 2025 at 5:39 pm said:
“Essentially, our young Beat poet has gotten stoned with friends,..”

Seems LSDish

fullmoon:

Thanks for the reading the poem! I can see why you might say that, based on the verse:
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&quot;Nonetheless, in the late 50s/early 60s one had to be pretty clued into elite circles for access to LSD.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Definitely.  As it became more readily available, it was made illegal. The government was concerned about kids flying off tall buildings and potentially interfering with aircraft traffic at SFO

&quot;The governors of Nevada and California each signed bills into law on May 30, 1966, that make them the first two American states to outlaw the manufacture, sale, and possession of the drug. The law went into effect immediately in Nevada, and on October 6, 1966, in California.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>huxley on August 5, 2025 at 5:39 pm said:<br />
“Essentially, our young Beat poet has gotten stoned with friends,..”</p>
<p>Seems LSDish</p>
<p>fullmoon:</p>
<p>Thanks for the reading the poem! I can see why you might say that, based on the verse:<br />
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<p>&#8220;Nonetheless, in the late 50s/early 60s one had to be pretty clued into elite circles for access to LSD.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Definitely.  As it became more readily available, it was made illegal. The government was concerned about kids flying off tall buildings and potentially interfering with aircraft traffic at SFO</p>
<p>&#8220;The governors of Nevada and California each signed bills into law on May 30, 1966, that make them the first two American states to outlaw the manufacture, sale, and possession of the drug. The law went into effect immediately in Nevada, and on October 6, 1966, in California.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 00:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Curious


https://www.racket.news/p/why-would-media-report-on-public

Why the corporate press is dead]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious</p>
<p><a href="https://www.racket.news/p/why-would-media-report-on-public" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.racket.news/p/why-would-media-report-on-public</a></p>
<p>Why the corporate press is dead</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2025 21:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“Essentially, our young Beat poet has gotten stoned with friends,..”

Seems LSDish&lt;/i&gt;

fullmoon:

Thanks for the reading the poem! I can see why you might say that, based on the verse:
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&lt;i&gt;Picking up change, hands like a walrus,
and a face like a barndoor’s,
and a head without any apparent size,
nothing but two eyes—&lt;/i&gt;
______________________

Nonetheless, in the late 50s/early 60s one had to be pretty clued into elite circles for access to LSD. 

At that time Creeley was just a no-name, knock-around, early thirties Beat poet. However, he was a serious stoner then. Boozer too.

He did write a poem, &quot;On Acid,&quot; in 1969 as part of a longer work. It was such an unremarkable poem that I can&#039;t find it online. I&#039;ll quote the first verse from the Collected Creeley:
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;On Acid&lt;/b&gt;

And I had no actual
hesitancies, always
(flickering) mind&#039;s 
sensations: here, here, here
...
--Robert Creeley (1969)&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Essentially, our young Beat poet has gotten stoned with friends,..”</p>
<p>Seems LSDish</i></p>
<p>fullmoon:</p>
<p>Thanks for the reading the poem! I can see why you might say that, based on the verse:<br />
______________________</p>
<p><i>Picking up change, hands like a walrus,<br />
and a face like a barndoor’s,<br />
and a head without any apparent size,<br />
nothing but two eyes—</i><br />
______________________</p>
<p>Nonetheless, in the late 50s/early 60s one had to be pretty clued into elite circles for access to LSD. </p>
<p>At that time Creeley was just a no-name, knock-around, early thirties Beat poet. However, he was a serious stoner then. Boozer too.</p>
<p>He did write a poem, &#8220;On Acid,&#8221; in 1969 as part of a longer work. It was such an unremarkable poem that I can&#8217;t find it online. I&#8217;ll quote the first verse from the Collected Creeley:<br />
______________________</p>
<p><i><b>On Acid</b></p>
<p>And I had no actual<br />
hesitancies, always<br />
(flickering) mind&#8217;s<br />
sensations: here, here, here<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8211;Robert Creeley (1969)</i></p>
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