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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2025 11:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What are the Macron recognized borders of the Palestinian state?

Israel should recognize the Gaza border state portion as its own, separate, third of three states.  Recognize it and declare war on it, and demand Unconditional Surrender.

In the meantime, while waiting for the Hamas surrender / recognition that won’t be coming, they should be establishing better long-term occupation institution building, especially in markets. 

Various powerful land as-viscious-as Hamas clans, as gangs, will have a lot of on the street influence.  There is already one in Rafah, according to some reports.

It’s not too late to create a Swiss-Singapore 5 canton city state in Gaza, and that is Israel’s best option for Peace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the Macron recognized borders of the Palestinian state?</p>
<p>Israel should recognize the Gaza border state portion as its own, separate, third of three states.  Recognize it and declare war on it, and demand Unconditional Surrender.</p>
<p>In the meantime, while waiting for the Hamas surrender / recognition that won’t be coming, they should be establishing better long-term occupation institution building, especially in markets. </p>
<p>Various powerful land as-viscious-as Hamas clans, as gangs, will have a lot of on the street influence.  There is already one in Rafah, according to some reports.</p>
<p>It’s not too late to create a Swiss-Singapore 5 canton city state in Gaza, and that is Israel’s best option for Peace.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2025 05:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I ran across this quote recently:
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&lt;i&gt;How can you govern a country which has 246 varieties of cheese?

--Charles de Gaulle&lt;/i&gt;
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He&#039;s got a point. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran across this quote recently:<br />
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<p><i>How can you govern a country which has 246 varieties of cheese?</p>
<p>&#8211;Charles de Gaulle</i><br />
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<p>He&#8217;s got a point. 🙂</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2025 04:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related?

‘&quot;It&#039;s up to us, the French&quot;;
‘In September 1938, French Prime Minister Edouard Daladier, along with the UK Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain sacrificed Czechoslovakia to appease Adolf Hitler, evil dictator of Germany. How did that work out, Mr. Macron?…’—

By Prof. Robert Scott Kellner

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/412349


Friedrich Keller (the above author’s grandfather):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Kellner]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related?</p>
<p>‘&#8221;It&#8217;s up to us, the French&#8221;;<br />
‘In September 1938, French Prime Minister Edouard Daladier, along with the UK Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain sacrificed Czechoslovakia to appease Adolf Hitler, evil dictator of Germany. How did that work out, Mr. Macron?…’—</p>
<p>By Prof. Robert Scott Kellner</p>
<p><a href="https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/412349" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/412349</a></p>
<p>Friedrich Keller (the above author’s grandfather):<br />
<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Kellner" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Kellner</a></p>
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		By: Cappy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2025 13:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Go over there and smack him around.  You can take him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go over there and smack him around.  You can take him.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2025 12:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FWIW….

‘Recognizing &quot;Palestine&quot;: A core violation of international law;
‘International law is not a suicide pact. Ipso facto, Israel has no legal obligation to carve an enemy state aggressor from its own still-living body especially when recent recognition of “Palestine” by four major states misses larger justice issues altogether…’—
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/412291]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW….</p>
<p>‘Recognizing &#8220;Palestine&#8221;: A core violation of international law;<br />
‘International law is not a suicide pact. Ipso facto, Israel has no legal obligation to carve an enemy state aggressor from its own still-living body especially when recent recognition of “Palestine” by four major states misses larger justice issues altogether…’—<br />
<a href="https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/412291" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/412291</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2025 22:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Brigitte Macron trans? / Candace Owens

Roger Simon has a column somewhat in line with my previous comment. 

He was about to throw his support to the Macron suit against the trans claim, but then M. Macron said that stupid thing about Palestine.
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&lt;i&gt;I was going to write a piece supporting the lawsuit of Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron against the sociopathic Candace Owens for her having repeatedly claimed, or more exactly proclaimed, that Mme Macron is a male. This is more than the usual clickbait grandstanding on Ms. Owen’s part. It seems actually sadistic in its motivations because so personal. It’s not the kind of thing a decent human being does without genuine evidence, which Owens has never remotely evinced, no matter what you think of the other person....

Nevertheless, in the midst of writing the article, President Macron has once again—or should I say “encore une fois”— proclaimed his support for a Palestinian state, this time targeting an official September announcement at the UN (where else?).

Ms. Owens and her ceaseless craving for attention is relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things (e.g. the world outside X) but the idea of a Palestinian state after the October 7 atrocities is nightmarish to contemplate. It would be like having a culture of misogynist homicidal rapists for your neighbors.

&lt;b&gt;My interest in defending the Macrons instantly disappeared after his announcement and this piece morphed into why I think the French president (and many European leaders) take the positions they do.&lt;/b&gt;

https://thecontinentalcongress.substack.com/p/mayday-mayday-mayday-this-is-hollywood&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Brigitte Macron trans? / Candace Owens</p>
<p>Roger Simon has a column somewhat in line with my previous comment. </p>
<p>He was about to throw his support to the Macron suit against the trans claim, but then M. Macron said that stupid thing about Palestine.<br />
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<p><i>I was going to write a piece supporting the lawsuit of Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron against the sociopathic Candace Owens for her having repeatedly claimed, or more exactly proclaimed, that Mme Macron is a male. This is more than the usual clickbait grandstanding on Ms. Owen’s part. It seems actually sadistic in its motivations because so personal. It’s not the kind of thing a decent human being does without genuine evidence, which Owens has never remotely evinced, no matter what you think of the other person&#8230;.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, in the midst of writing the article, President Macron has once again—or should I say “encore une fois”— proclaimed his support for a Palestinian state, this time targeting an official September announcement at the UN (where else?).</p>
<p>Ms. Owens and her ceaseless craving for attention is relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things (e.g. the world outside X) but the idea of a Palestinian state after the October 7 atrocities is nightmarish to contemplate. It would be like having a culture of misogynist homicidal rapists for your neighbors.</p>
<p><b>My interest in defending the Macrons instantly disappeared after his announcement and this piece morphed into why I think the French president (and many European leaders) take the positions they do.</b></p>
<p><a href="https://thecontinentalcongress.substack.com/p/mayday-mayday-mayday-this-is-hollywood" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thecontinentalcongress.substack.com/p/mayday-mayday-mayday-this-is-hollywood</a></i></p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2025 22:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But the demographic balance skews against the native population, the preponderance of births come from newcomers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the demographic balance skews against the native population, the preponderance of births come from newcomers</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2025 22:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;@Stewart :&lt;/b&gt;France is close to Islamic majority.. 2 generations should do it.&lt;/i&gt;

Really? Currently only ~10% of the French population is Muslim. 

I guess one can jigger the numbers of native French births vs Muslim to get the 2 generations result. But practically speaking I don&#039;t see those numbers working out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>@Stewart :</b>France is close to Islamic majority.. 2 generations should do it.</i></p>
<p>Really? Currently only ~10% of the French population is Muslim. </p>
<p>I guess one can jigger the numbers of native French births vs Muslim to get the 2 generations result. But practically speaking I don&#8217;t see those numbers working out.</p>
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		By: Stewart		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stewart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2025 21:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[France is close to Islamic majority.. 2 generations should do it. Palestinians reject a two state situation as they are committed to murdering all Jews worldwide. Jordan  accepts S and rejects the Palestinian state but recognises Israel. Macron is a dick]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>France is close to Islamic majority.. 2 generations should do it. Palestinians reject a two state situation as they are committed to murdering all Jews worldwide. Jordan  accepts S and rejects the Palestinian state but recognises Israel. Macron is a dick</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2025 16:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Macron is also advocating demilitarization of Hamas/Palestine.&lt;blockquote&gt;It is also necessary to ensure the demilitarization of Hamas, secure and rebuild Gaza. Finally, it is essential to build the State of Palestine, ensure its viability, and enable it, by accepting its demilitarization and fully recognizing Israel, to contribute to the security of all in the Middle East.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I doubt that Hamas or Gaza would accept demilitarization. Note that Macron is implicitly accepting the statement that demilitarized Palestine means peace, and demilitarized Israel means the death of Israel.

richf &lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe I’m misinformed, but haven’t the Palestinians repeatedly rejected a “two-state solution” ?
“From the River to the Sea” doesn’t mean two nations living in peace and Harmony.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Indeed.
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public%20Opinion%20Poll%20-%20Gaza%20War%202023%20-%20Tables%20of%20Results.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; AWRAD: Public Opinion Poll - Gaza War 2023 - Tables of Results&lt;/a&gt;  November 14, 2023

&lt;blockquote&gt;Table 33: Do you support the solution of establishing one state or two states in the following formats: 
Two-state solution for two peoples	17%
A Palestinian state from the river to the sea  	75%
One state solution for two peoples		5%&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 From the river to the sea means Jew-free. (&lt;i&gt;judenrein&lt;/i&gt;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macron is also advocating demilitarization of Hamas/Palestine.</p>
<blockquote><p>It is also necessary to ensure the demilitarization of Hamas, secure and rebuild Gaza. Finally, it is essential to build the State of Palestine, ensure its viability, and enable it, by accepting its demilitarization and fully recognizing Israel, to contribute to the security of all in the Middle East.</p></blockquote>
<p>I doubt that Hamas or Gaza would accept demilitarization. Note that Macron is implicitly accepting the statement that demilitarized Palestine means peace, and demilitarized Israel means the death of Israel.</p>
<p>richf </p>
<blockquote><p>Maybe I’m misinformed, but haven’t the Palestinians repeatedly rejected a “two-state solution” ?<br />
“From the River to the Sea” doesn’t mean two nations living in peace and Harmony.</p></blockquote>
<p> Indeed.<br />
<a href="https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public%20Opinion%20Poll%20-%20Gaza%20War%202023%20-%20Tables%20of%20Results.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc"> AWRAD: Public Opinion Poll &#8211; Gaza War 2023 &#8211; Tables of Results</a>  November 14, 2023</p>
<blockquote><p>Table 33: Do you support the solution of establishing one state or two states in the following formats:<br />
Two-state solution for two peoples	17%<br />
A Palestinian state from the river to the sea  	75%<br />
One state solution for two peoples		5%</p></blockquote>
<p> From the river to the sea means Jew-free. (<i>judenrein</i>)</p>
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