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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/07/23/do-we-still-call-it-russiagate/#comment-2813694</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Russia Hoax sounds best. But lack verve and attack on the expoed.

Obama-Coup comes closer]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia Hoax sounds best. But lack verve and attack on the expoed.</p>
<p>Obama-Coup comes closer</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump calls it the RussiaHoax, tho maybe also other phrases. I’m tired of x-gate, too, but it’s the Dem media that usually pushes some phrase.

It’s Russia Hoax for me until Trump names it more clearly something else.

What are the actual crimes, tho?

And I support impeachment for all 4 FISA judges that failed to require the FBI/ CIA to have first person witnesses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump calls it the RussiaHoax, tho maybe also other phrases. I’m tired of x-gate, too, but it’s the Dem media that usually pushes some phrase.</p>
<p>It’s Russia Hoax for me until Trump names it more clearly something else.</p>
<p>What are the actual crimes, tho?</p>
<p>And I support impeachment for all 4 FISA judges that failed to require the FBI/ CIA to have first person witnesses.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2025 02:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Don: &quot; But “coup” is more appropriate than “hoax”. &quot;
Yes, that terminology should receive more emphasis going forward. But the Right does not seem to have a Journolist type connectivity to all focus on a common phrase or term or narrative &quot;upon demand&quot;. 

Perhaps we can go with something like &quot;Coup-bama&quot;  ?? where the &quot;P&quot; is pronounced, to reflect back on Obama&#039;s &quot;esprit de corps&quot; faux pas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Don: &#8221; But “coup” is more appropriate than “hoax”. &#8221;<br />
Yes, that terminology should receive more emphasis going forward. But the Right does not seem to have a Journolist type connectivity to all focus on a common phrase or term or narrative &#8220;upon demand&#8221;. </p>
<p>Perhaps we can go with something like &#8220;Coup-bama&#8221;  ?? where the &#8220;P&#8221; is pronounced, to reflect back on Obama&#8217;s &#8220;esprit de corps&#8221; faux pas.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;@Don: &lt;/b&gt;It turns out “deep throat” was the deputy director of the FBI. Not a Nixon insider.&lt;/i&gt;

All true. The Deep Throat whistleblower was Mark Felt. After J. Edgar Hoover died, Nixon passed over Felt for FBI Director. 

Felt had been Hoover&#039;s associate director and was considered Hoover&#039;s natural successor. Instead Nixon chose L. Patrick Gray III, who had no experience in law enforcement.

Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat scorned!

Hat tip to Richard Nixon for not choosing an inheritor of the Hoover machine to continue running the FBI. 

Though it appears Nixon paid dearly for that smart, brave choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>@Don: </b>It turns out “deep throat” was the deputy director of the FBI. Not a Nixon insider.</i></p>
<p>All true. The Deep Throat whistleblower was Mark Felt. After J. Edgar Hoover died, Nixon passed over Felt for FBI Director. </p>
<p>Felt had been Hoover&#8217;s associate director and was considered Hoover&#8217;s natural successor. Instead Nixon chose L. Patrick Gray III, who had no experience in law enforcement.</p>
<p>Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat scorned!</p>
<p>Hat tip to Richard Nixon for not choosing an inheritor of the Hoover machine to continue running the FBI. </p>
<p>Though it appears Nixon paid dearly for that smart, brave choice.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 17:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Selfy on July 24, 2025 at 12:59 pm said:
I’m okay with “Russiagate.” “Watergate” is a building complex in DC, but Nixon’s scandal was about more than that.&lt;/i&gt;

It turns out &quot;deep throat&quot; was the deputy director of the FBI. Not a Nixon insider. The implication is that the deputy director was spying on the Nixon administration, a crime at least equal to Nixon&#039;s. Really worse, since the deputy director was just a government employee using his power to overthrow a president.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Selfy on July 24, 2025 at 12:59 pm said:<br />
I’m okay with “Russiagate.” “Watergate” is a building complex in DC, but Nixon’s scandal was about more than that.</i></p>
<p>It turns out &#8220;deep throat&#8221; was the deputy director of the FBI. Not a Nixon insider. The implication is that the deputy director was spying on the Nixon administration, a crime at least equal to Nixon&#8217;s. Really worse, since the deputy director was just a government employee using his power to overthrow a president.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One little part in the Russia collusion coup attempt:

Recall during the Mueller investigation (which was part of the coup), at several points they prosecuted Russians for interference, that is, buying Facebook ads. I don&#039;t recall seeing these ads, it would be interesting to see what was in them.

These prosecutions seemed intended to include some actual Russians, who were generally lacking in all this. 

In one of these prosecutions, DOJ showed up unprepared at the court date and had to request an extension. Seems they didn&#039;t expect the Russians to show up and contest it, but they hired US lawyers.

US lawyers who--surprise--demanded discovery. Discovery the DOJ refused to provide. Eventually prosecution was dropped due to the lack of discovery.

But at one point Mueller came out and gave a funny little press briefing. No one knew what he called it for, and it wasn&#039;t clear what it was about after listening to it--almost everything he said was well known. 

But if you paid close attention, he did state that there was no evidence the Russians indicted were agents of the Russian government.

It turns out that he had to back out of prior lies claiming those indicted were working on behalf of the Russian government because of a court order.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One little part in the Russia collusion coup attempt:</p>
<p>Recall during the Mueller investigation (which was part of the coup), at several points they prosecuted Russians for interference, that is, buying Facebook ads. I don&#8217;t recall seeing these ads, it would be interesting to see what was in them.</p>
<p>These prosecutions seemed intended to include some actual Russians, who were generally lacking in all this. </p>
<p>In one of these prosecutions, DOJ showed up unprepared at the court date and had to request an extension. Seems they didn&#8217;t expect the Russians to show up and contest it, but they hired US lawyers.</p>
<p>US lawyers who&#8211;surprise&#8211;demanded discovery. Discovery the DOJ refused to provide. Eventually prosecution was dropped due to the lack of discovery.</p>
<p>But at one point Mueller came out and gave a funny little press briefing. No one knew what he called it for, and it wasn&#8217;t clear what it was about after listening to it&#8211;almost everything he said was well known. </p>
<p>But if you paid close attention, he did state that there was no evidence the Russians indicted were agents of the Russian government.</p>
<p>It turns out that he had to back out of prior lies claiming those indicted were working on behalf of the Russian government because of a court order.</p>
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		By: Selfy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Selfy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 16:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m okay with &quot;Russiagate.&quot; &quot;Watergate&quot; is a building complex in DC, but Nixon&#039;s scandal was about more than that.
I like Obamagate, but the Ministry of Truth will forbid the O Word.

Trump calls it Russia Russia Russia which may be too long. Perhaps he will coin a new word for the scandal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m okay with &#8220;Russiagate.&#8221; &#8220;Watergate&#8221; is a building complex in DC, but Nixon&#8217;s scandal was about more than that.<br />
I like Obamagate, but the Ministry of Truth will forbid the O Word.</p>
<p>Trump calls it Russia Russia Russia which may be too long. Perhaps he will coin a new word for the scandal.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 16:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was a huge deal, the biggest scandal in American politics. 

Basically a corrupt attempt at a take over by deep state actors supported by media.

A coup. Not just against Trump, but against the American people. 

And it is one of the things that significantly harmed Trump going into the 2020 election. Hiding Hunter&#039;s laptop wasn&#039;t the only thing that impacted votes.

There are so many pieces of this over time it is hard to keep track.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a huge deal, the biggest scandal in American politics. </p>
<p>Basically a corrupt attempt at a take over by deep state actors supported by media.</p>
<p>A coup. Not just against Trump, but against the American people. </p>
<p>And it is one of the things that significantly harmed Trump going into the 2020 election. Hiding Hunter&#8217;s laptop wasn&#8217;t the only thing that impacted votes.</p>
<p>There are so many pieces of this over time it is hard to keep track.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 16:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Liz,

But &quot;coup&quot; is more appropriate than &quot;hoax&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz,</p>
<p>But &#8220;coup&#8221; is more appropriate than &#8220;hoax&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Liz		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/07/23/do-we-still-call-it-russiagate/#comment-2813388</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 15:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am seeing &quot;Russian Collusion Hoax&quot; and &quot;Russian Hoax&quot; on other sites and it is a good term.  I also like the use of Strike Force by the DOJ.  Gives an action feel instead of just another review that goes nowhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am seeing &#8220;Russian Collusion Hoax&#8221; and &#8220;Russian Hoax&#8221; on other sites and it is a good term.  I also like the use of Strike Force by the DOJ.  Gives an action feel instead of just another review that goes nowhere.</p>
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