https://nypost.com/2025/07/13/us-news/child-predator-among-more-than-300-arrested-during-ice-raid-on-cannabis-farm/

plain speaking goes a long way,

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2025/07/13/tom-homan-if-you-have-a-kid-here-and-are-illegal-thats-on-you-n2415606

True.

And those are the ones who will do the crimes anyway…and also the ones who should be used as examples to the ones who are reachable.

The throwing of rocks and frozen water bottles (liquid water is just as heavy) at officers is an assault with means likely to cause great bodily injury or death. These are criteria to allow use of potential lethal force to stop the attack.

Some criminals are kids who were raised just fine and are psychopaths or sociopaths.

Behind every criminal is a kid who was not raised correctly, and you are exactly right on the method.

We never imposed “cruel and unusual punishments” on our boys (and those that do are abusers), but consequences were clear and applied as needed.

Ever?

Seems like theater to me. If they wanted to make an impact, they’d be lobbying to increase the *minimum* penalties, not the ones that are almost never implemented.

Reminds me of when my kids were young. My ex-wife would get so pissed off because they actually listened to me and did what I said, but they basically ignored her.

She’d tell them to do the dishes, or clean their rooms, or take out the trash over and over again with increasing levels of volume, threaten to ground them, take away their favorite things, etc. and they’d pretend not to hear her, or act like they were going to do it, but never actually get it done.

Then I’d tell them “do what your mother told you to do”, didn’t yell, didn’t threaten, just told them to do it and they’d get up and do it.

She’d get furious and demand to know why they listened to me but not her.

She’d get even more furious when I explained it to her:

“They know, no matter how loud you get or how much you threaten, you’re not going to actually follow through on the threats so they can just ignore you and the worst thing that will happen is you’ll yell louder. They know I’m only going to tell them once and if they don’t do it, their lives will become very unpleasant.”

Yea, yea, I know: Raising your kids is different than dealing with adult criminals.

No, actually, it’s not all that different. Humans are human after all.

Are there ones who will commit the crimes anyway? Of course there are…and those are the ones you set an example with. Consequences should be prompt, severe, and long lasting…which will absolutely cause those less committed to the cause to have second thoughts about following suit.

There is a reason these types of things happen in New York and LA and Chicago and San Francisco and Seattle and not in Johnson City and Tulsa, and Jacksonville, and Rapid City and Provo. In the blue cities, even if they’re arrested…which they probably won’t be…they’ll likely face minimal if any consequences…even in federal courts in those areas. In the red cities, the citizenry would be against them (and much of that citizenry is armed), they’d absolutely be arrested after they get out of the hospital and would likely face serious consequences. So they throw their tantrums where it’s safe to do so.