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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So college prez, mayors and governors are supposed to the majordomo and not the freaking king. A high end servant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So college prez, mayors and governors are supposed to the majordomo and not the freaking king. A high end servant.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 17:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Women&#039;s rights&#039; groups have not in the post-war period agitated in favor of actual liberties for women and have sought nothing salutary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Women&#8217;s rights&#8217; groups have not in the post-war period agitated in favor of actual liberties for women and have sought nothing salutary.</p>
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		By: JohnTyler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JohnTyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 16:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And meanwhile, women&#039;s right&#039;s groups still remain totally silent.

Then again, maybe it&#039;s because Michelle &quot;it&#039;s - been-a-struggle&quot; Obama had been hogging the women&#039;s lib airspace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And meanwhile, women&#8217;s right&#8217;s groups still remain totally silent.</p>
<p>Then again, maybe it&#8217;s because Michelle &#8220;it&#8217;s &#8211; been-a-struggle&#8221; Obama had been hogging the women&#8217;s lib airspace.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/07/claire-shipman-is-sorry.php
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Four remarks:
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A. The influence of the university president (or that of any other employee of the school) on the composition of the board of trustees should be zero.
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B. IMO, college presidents should be concerned  with physical plant, budget, fundraising, and promotion and should be drawn from outside the world of faculty and educational administration. They can offer their opinions to the board on course offerings or faculty tenure and promotion, but it should be the board&#039;s call on that.   If you&#039;re considering an educational administrator for the position of president, consider only those who specialized in finance or physical plant.  If you&#039;re considering a quondam faculty member, look for those who have spent a dozen years in executive positions where mollifying faculty was not part of the job description; can be in business, the military, general philanthropy, or general public administration.  One thing it is perverse to do is hire for your interim president a broadcast journalist.  
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C. The board should not be unwieldy and should be elected by alumni registered to vote in the state where the school&#039;s principal campuses are located.  Such elections should be by postal ballot and supervised by the state and county board of elections.
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D. Higher ed administrators cannot for the life of them promulgate impartial behavioral rules and enforce them honestly and consistently.  It&#039;s always about favoring one segment over another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/07/claire-shipman-is-sorry.php" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/07/claire-shipman-is-sorry.php</a><br />
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Four remarks:<br />
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A. The influence of the university president (or that of any other employee of the school) on the composition of the board of trustees should be zero.<br />
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B. IMO, college presidents should be concerned  with physical plant, budget, fundraising, and promotion and should be drawn from outside the world of faculty and educational administration. They can offer their opinions to the board on course offerings or faculty tenure and promotion, but it should be the board&#8217;s call on that.   If you&#8217;re considering an educational administrator for the position of president, consider only those who specialized in finance or physical plant.  If you&#8217;re considering a quondam faculty member, look for those who have spent a dozen years in executive positions where mollifying faculty was not part of the job description; can be in business, the military, general philanthropy, or general public administration.  One thing it is perverse to do is hire for your interim president a broadcast journalist.<br />
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C. The board should not be unwieldy and should be elected by alumni registered to vote in the state where the school&#8217;s principal campuses are located.  Such elections should be by postal ballot and supervised by the state and county board of elections.<br />
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D. Higher ed administrators cannot for the life of them promulgate impartial behavioral rules and enforce them honestly and consistently.  It&#8217;s always about favoring one segment over another.</p>
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		By: Jamie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 11:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This one lesson - call it an electoral lesson, because I think neo is right that we can&#039;t count on the left to learn a moral lesson - ought to be the biggest takeaway from the 2024 election. It ought to be, precisely because it &lt;i&gt;shouldn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; be. Transgenderism affects (or should affect) only a tiny fraction of people, yet the Democrats made it their hill to die on. 

The wild unpopularity of open borders and government-assisted abuse of the asylum system ought to have been the major takeaway, because it affects so many more people, and because the Democrats should have shunted aside the trans thing. But they &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; set it aside; they kept on doubling down and doubling down, such that ordinary Americans rightly concluded that Democrats care more about the feelings of a teensy but extremely vocal and disturbed group of people - who, by all appearances, are coming for children every chance they get - than they care about the lives and livelihoods of the same ordinary Americans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one lesson &#8211; call it an electoral lesson, because I think neo is right that we can&#8217;t count on the left to learn a moral lesson &#8211; ought to be the biggest takeaway from the 2024 election. It ought to be, precisely because it <i>shouldn&#8217;t</i> be. Transgenderism affects (or should affect) only a tiny fraction of people, yet the Democrats made it their hill to die on. </p>
<p>The wild unpopularity of open borders and government-assisted abuse of the asylum system ought to have been the major takeaway, because it affects so many more people, and because the Democrats should have shunted aside the trans thing. But they <i>didn&#8217;t</i> set it aside; they kept on doubling down and doubling down, such that ordinary Americans rightly concluded that Democrats care more about the feelings of a teensy but extremely vocal and disturbed group of people &#8211; who, by all appearances, are coming for children every chance they get &#8211; than they care about the lives and livelihoods of the same ordinary Americans.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 06:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Penn has a 45 member board which is largely self-regenerating.  If they had an eleven member board elected by a postal ballot of those alumni registered to vote in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and that balloting was supervised by the state board of elections, they might just be supervised by people with some critical distance from the faddish status-signaling and gaslighting to which faculty and school administration are prone.  Might not help, but it couldn&#039;t hurt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penn has a 45 member board which is largely self-regenerating.  If they had an eleven member board elected by a postal ballot of those alumni registered to vote in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and that balloting was supervised by the state board of elections, they might just be supervised by people with some critical distance from the faddish status-signaling and gaslighting to which faculty and school administration are prone.  Might not help, but it couldn&#8217;t hurt.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 06:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Your ire at the young women seems to me to be misplaced. &lt;/i&gt;
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They turned him down again and again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Your ire at the young women seems to me to be misplaced. </i><br />
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They turned him down again and again.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 04:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[smelting:

Thomas swam on the U Penn women&#039;s swim team for the 2021-2022 season. See &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/penn-swimmers-cannot-express-opinions-on-lia-thomas-athletes-shut-down-by-school/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; for what the swimmers were doing about it during that time, as well as &lt;a href=&quot;https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/upenn-parents-demand-ncaa-ban-lia-thomas-from-womens-swimming/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; for what the parents were doing.

Your ire at the young women seems to me to be misplaced. They&#039;d been training almost their entire lives for the opportunity to swim on the team.  It was U Penn that betrayed them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smelting:</p>
<p>Thomas swam on the U Penn women&#8217;s swim team for the 2021-2022 season. See <a href="https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/penn-swimmers-cannot-express-opinions-on-lia-thomas-athletes-shut-down-by-school/" rel="nofollow ugc">this</a> for what the swimmers were doing about it during that time, as well as <a href="https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/upenn-parents-demand-ncaa-ban-lia-thomas-from-womens-swimming/" rel="nofollow ugc">this</a> for what the parents were doing.</p>
<p>Your ire at the young women seems to me to be misplaced. They&#8217;d been training almost their entire lives for the opportunity to swim on the team.  It was U Penn that betrayed them.</p>
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		By: Marlene		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marlene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 03:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear smelting, 
Re &quot;They wouldn’t give up their precious Ivy League diploma and credential for all the abuse and trauma in the world. Complaining about Thomas and risking getting kicked off the team or simply quitting the swim team were not options for them, as being part of a Division I sports team would have been a key element of their applications to medical or law school.&quot;
  I find it sad and OFFENSIVE to put all or most of the blame on the young adults who are in a situation where, unlike established adults, they are still boxed in by authorities ruling the biggest aspects of their futures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear smelting,<br />
Re &#8220;They wouldn’t give up their precious Ivy League diploma and credential for all the abuse and trauma in the world. Complaining about Thomas and risking getting kicked off the team or simply quitting the swim team were not options for them, as being part of a Division I sports team would have been a key element of their applications to medical or law school.&#8221;<br />
  I find it sad and OFFENSIVE to put all or most of the blame on the young adults who are in a situation where, unlike established adults, they are still boxed in by authorities ruling the biggest aspects of their futures.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 20:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I have pointed out before, gender is just a social construction and therefore imaginary. I have asked people to explain the physical basis of gender and nobody can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have pointed out before, gender is just a social construction and therefore imaginary. I have asked people to explain the physical basis of gender and nobody can.</p>
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