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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/28/the-german-definition-of-freedom-of-speech/#comment-2809151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem with german philosophy is instead of locke they have hegel and the poison as with rousseau goes downstream into marx and the precursors of hitler]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with german philosophy is instead of locke they have hegel and the poison as with rousseau goes downstream into marx and the precursors of hitler</p>
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		By: Cappy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/28/the-german-definition-of-freedom-of-speech/#comment-2809148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huxley - &quot;But, your honor, the prosecutor IS a Fink.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huxley &#8211; &#8220;But, your honor, the prosecutor IS a Fink.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup - Pirate&#039;s Cove &#187; Pirate&#039;s Cove		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup - Pirate&#039;s Cove &#187; Pirate&#039;s Cove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] neo-neocon: The German definition of freedom of speech [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] neo-neocon: The German definition of freedom of speech [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/28/the-german-definition-of-freedom-of-speech/#comment-2809029</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://x.com/pegobry_en/status/1938972113999647195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1938972113999647195%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&#038;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F729088%2F
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Pascal Emmanuel Gobry nails it.]]></description>
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Pascal Emmanuel Gobry nails it.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/28/the-german-definition-of-freedom-of-speech/#comment-2809012</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 07:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Barry &#062; &quot;You, you, you, YOU GERMAN!!!&quot;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Barry &gt; &#8220;You, you, you, YOU GERMAN!!!&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/28/the-german-definition-of-freedom-of-speech/#comment-2809011</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 07:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Neo &#062; &quot;Insulting politicians seems to be a crime in Germany.&quot;

If the people had been free to insult Hitler and other politicians without being fined, jailed, or shot, maybe the Germans wouldn&#039;t have started a world war.

As for today&#039;s snowflakes:

&quot;If you can&#039;t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.&quot;

&quot;Politics ain&#039;t beanbag.&quot;

However, I could go along with making people remove fake &quot;quotes&quot; if they are presented as real, IOW not in a clearly identifiable satirical site or post or meme.

OTOH, politicians should be able to present the facts and argue their own case without hand-holding.

And huxley is correct, in more cases than just Germany.
&quot;I suspect it’s more fun and safer for the police to monitor mean tweets than to go out and solve real crimes and arrest bad people.&quot;

In re Neo&#039;s last link, one of the persons quoted insisted there was no surveillance; then how are they finding all that hate speech?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Neo &gt; &#8220;Insulting politicians seems to be a crime in Germany.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the people had been free to insult Hitler and other politicians without being fined, jailed, or shot, maybe the Germans wouldn&#8217;t have started a world war.</p>
<p>As for today&#8217;s snowflakes:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you can&#8217;t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Politics ain&#8217;t beanbag.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, I could go along with making people remove fake &#8220;quotes&#8221; if they are presented as real, IOW not in a clearly identifiable satirical site or post or meme.</p>
<p>OTOH, politicians should be able to present the facts and argue their own case without hand-holding.</p>
<p>And huxley is correct, in more cases than just Germany.<br />
&#8220;I suspect it’s more fun and safer for the police to monitor mean tweets than to go out and solve real crimes and arrest bad people.&#8221;</p>
<p>In re Neo&#8217;s last link, one of the persons quoted insisted there was no surveillance; then how are they finding all that hate speech?</p>
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		By: Dwaz		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/28/the-german-definition-of-freedom-of-speech/#comment-2809004</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dwaz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 06:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The King is a fink!&quot; was a common line in The Wizard of Id comic strip.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The King is a fink!&#8221; was a common line in The Wizard of Id comic strip.</p>
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		By: Hep		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/28/the-german-definition-of-freedom-of-speech/#comment-2809002</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 05:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I fink Fink is a putz.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fink Fink is a putz.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/28/the-german-definition-of-freedom-of-speech/#comment-2808990</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 04:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fink: I was greatly amused  as a teen in the &#039;60s, to see a Fink&#039;s Bread truck in Manhattan.

Allan Sherman knew what a fink was. &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZdkK5XiOoo&#038;list=RDnZdkK5XiOoo&#038;start_radio=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; Allan Sherman: Rat Fink&lt;/a&gt;   

The song came from Rag Mop, recorded and composed in the &#039;40s by Johnnie Lee Wills---better known as  the younger brother of Bob Wills, the King of Western Swing.&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wue5xqag2_I&#038;list=RDWue5xqag2_I&#038;start_radio=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Rag Mop - Johnnie Lee Wills (1949).&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fink: I was greatly amused  as a teen in the &#8217;60s, to see a Fink&#8217;s Bread truck in Manhattan.</p>
<p>Allan Sherman knew what a fink was. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZdkK5XiOoo&amp;list=RDnZdkK5XiOoo&amp;start_radio=1" rel="nofollow ugc"> Allan Sherman: Rat Fink</a>   </p>
<p>The song came from Rag Mop, recorded and composed in the &#8217;40s by Johnnie Lee Wills&#8212;better known as  the younger brother of Bob Wills, the King of Western Swing.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wue5xqag2_I&amp;list=RDWue5xqag2_I&amp;start_radio=1" rel="nofollow ugc">Rag Mop &#8211; Johnnie Lee Wills (1949).</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 04:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: More Fink

Of course the pejorative meaning of fink I recall as a kid was that it meant to rat someone out or be someone who did so.

In which case Dr. Matthäus Fink, a state prosecutor tasked with policing Germany’s robust hate speech laws, is well-named.

If someone called Fink a fink, would it be hate speech?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: More Fink</p>
<p>Of course the pejorative meaning of fink I recall as a kid was that it meant to rat someone out or be someone who did so.</p>
<p>In which case Dr. Matthäus Fink, a state prosecutor tasked with policing Germany’s robust hate speech laws, is well-named.</p>
<p>If someone called Fink a fink, would it be hate speech?</p>
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