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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/12/la-riot-arrests/#comment-2806780</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2025 06:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Arrests are needed before guilty verdicts &#038; jail time. Each is a stronger negative incentive to riot &#038; destroy. Civilization needs more enforcement of law—no one, nor any of a thousand, are above the law.

Far worse than the J6 election protests, more rioters should be arrested on the spot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrests are needed before guilty verdicts &amp; jail time. Each is a stronger negative incentive to riot &amp; destroy. Civilization needs more enforcement of law—no one, nor any of a thousand, are above the law.</p>
<p>Far worse than the J6 election protests, more rioters should be arrested on the spot.</p>
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		By: Hep		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/12/la-riot-arrests/#comment-2806530</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 16:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;peaceful protesters&quot; are the sheep&#039;s clothing the Democrat wolves use to embed their violent thugs, similar to Hamas hiding among civilians.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;peaceful protesters&#8221; are the sheep&#8217;s clothing the Democrat wolves use to embed their violent thugs, similar to Hamas hiding among civilians.</p>
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		By: Jamie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/12/la-riot-arrests/#comment-2806492</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 12:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to start by saying that I am 100% behind the deployment of the Guard and Marines as it has been carried out, and also 100% against Newsom and Bass&#039;s anemic protestations that they&#039;re for law and order, really! - but it does occur to me that funding or supplying signs for a protest (provided that it&#039;s ONLY a protest) are not actions that violate any law, are they? (This is separate from the very enlightening money-following being done by DataRepublican and others.)

Supplying weapons - prosecute. Training in attack tactics - I don&#039;t know for sure, since you might be able to claim you&#039;re just military hobbyists or something, but I would certainly try to prosecute that too. Supplying masks - I honestly don&#039;t know how legally defensible Trump&#039;s (and others&#039;) forbidding of masks will turn out to be; I hate masks and believe that if you&#039;re moved to protest in our country, you ought to do so with your face showing (I might think differently in countries where people really are &quot;disappeared&quot; for protesting).

I&#039;m trying to draw, and keep to, a distinction between unlawful activities and lawful if unsavory ones. And it&#039;s not that easy a distinction to make, ISTM - intent, which is of course so difficult to prove, would seem to matter in some of these questions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to start by saying that I am 100% behind the deployment of the Guard and Marines as it has been carried out, and also 100% against Newsom and Bass&#8217;s anemic protestations that they&#8217;re for law and order, really! &#8211; but it does occur to me that funding or supplying signs for a protest (provided that it&#8217;s ONLY a protest) are not actions that violate any law, are they? (This is separate from the very enlightening money-following being done by DataRepublican and others.)</p>
<p>Supplying weapons &#8211; prosecute. Training in attack tactics &#8211; I don&#8217;t know for sure, since you might be able to claim you&#8217;re just military hobbyists or something, but I would certainly try to prosecute that too. Supplying masks &#8211; I honestly don&#8217;t know how legally defensible Trump&#8217;s (and others&#8217;) forbidding of masks will turn out to be; I hate masks and believe that if you&#8217;re moved to protest in our country, you ought to do so with your face showing (I might think differently in countries where people really are &#8220;disappeared&#8221; for protesting).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to draw, and keep to, a distinction between unlawful activities and lawful if unsavory ones. And it&#8217;s not that easy a distinction to make, ISTM &#8211; intent, which is of course so difficult to prove, would seem to matter in some of these questions.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/12/la-riot-arrests/#comment-2806459</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 04:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Update:

“Federal appeals court rules Trump to maintain control of California National Guard, overruling judge”—
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/federal-judge-orders-trump-temporarily-return-control-california-national

+ Related:

“LA mayor once joined pro-Cuba communist group, now it’s part of CCP-linked network behind protests”—
https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/pro-cuban-communist-org-karen-bass-joined-now-part-ccp-linked-finance-network-behind

“CCP-linked”?
Ya’ don’t say. 
Looks like President Fentanyl’s pals wanna piece of the action!

File under: LAUSSR]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update:</p>
<p>“Federal appeals court rules Trump to maintain control of California National Guard, overruling judge”—<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/federal-judge-orders-trump-temporarily-return-control-california-national" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/federal-judge-orders-trump-temporarily-return-control-california-national</a></p>
<p>+ Related:</p>
<p>“LA mayor once joined pro-Cuba communist group, now it’s part of CCP-linked network behind protests”—<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/pro-cuban-communist-org-karen-bass-joined-now-part-ccp-linked-finance-network-behind" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/pro-cuban-communist-org-karen-bass-joined-now-part-ccp-linked-finance-network-behind</a></p>
<p>“CCP-linked”?<br />
Ya’ don’t say.<br />
Looks like President Fentanyl’s pals wanna piece of the action!</p>
<p>File under: LAUSSR</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/12/la-riot-arrests/#comment-2806454</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 03:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Judge Breyer playing it real cute, saying &lt;i&gt;“That’s the difference between a constitutional government and King George. It’s not that a leader can simply say something and then it becomes it,” U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer said during the hearing earlier on Thursday....&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Stern, impartial language used a day or two before planned nationwide protests organized under the banner of &#039;No Kings&#039;, my, what a coincidence. I wonder if the judge has any, ahem, political affiliations of note.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge Breyer playing it real cute, saying <i>“That’s the difference between a constitutional government and King George. It’s not that a leader can simply say something and then it becomes it,” U.S. District Court Judge Charles Breyer said during the hearing earlier on Thursday&#8230;.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Stern, impartial language used a day or two before planned nationwide protests organized under the banner of &#8216;No Kings&#8217;, my, what a coincidence. I wonder if the judge has any, ahem, political affiliations of note.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/12/la-riot-arrests/#comment-2806441</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 01:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shipwreckedcrew: &lt;blockquote&gt;One of the most offensive parts of Judge Breyer&#039;s TRO is that it represents trial by news report.

The Order is stuffed full of references to a couple of Declarations filed by California that attached a collection of news reports about the events of the day on June 7-9.  

He has taken this act based on a record created by the media.  

The correct thing to have done was to require California -- the party seeking the TRO -- to call witnesses to the events and provide him a  record based on personal observations.

What he relied upon instead was a record created by reporters as revised by their editors.

Unacceptable &lt;/blockquote&gt; 
https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1933333604521947418]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shipwreckedcrew: </p>
<blockquote><p>One of the most offensive parts of Judge Breyer&#8217;s TRO is that it represents trial by news report.</p>
<p>The Order is stuffed full of references to a couple of Declarations filed by California that attached a collection of news reports about the events of the day on June 7-9.  </p>
<p>He has taken this act based on a record created by the media.  </p>
<p>The correct thing to have done was to require California &#8212; the party seeking the TRO &#8212; to call witnesses to the events and provide him a  record based on personal observations.</p>
<p>What he relied upon instead was a record created by reporters as revised by their editors.</p>
<p>Unacceptable </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1933333604521947418" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1933333604521947418</a></p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/12/la-riot-arrests/#comment-2806439</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 01:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Margot Cleveland: &quot;Called. It. Judge enjoined Trump from deploying National Guard to L.A. and Defendants (which includes President TRUMP) to return control to Newsom. Stays order until tomorrow noon. Appeal already filed.&quot; 

https://x.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1933331346815873491

Pdf of full order at link.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margot Cleveland: &#8220;Called. It. Judge enjoined Trump from deploying National Guard to L.A. and Defendants (which includes President TRUMP) to return control to Newsom. Stays order until tomorrow noon. Appeal already filed.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="https://x.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1933331346815873491" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1933331346815873491</a></p>
<p>Pdf of full order at link.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/12/la-riot-arrests/#comment-2806438</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 01:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Julie Kelly: &lt;blockquote&gt;  Less than four hours after holding a hearing, Judge Charles Breyer (83-year-old Clinton appointee and brother of former SC Justice Stephen) issues a 36-page opinion to support granting a temp restraining order related to Trump&#039;s deployment of the National Guard in California.

This was written before the hearing--no question. It is filled with political rhetoric intended to create headlines

FWIW I am fine with National Guard leaving LA. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 
https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1933333155299405963

Couple of pages of the decision at link.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie Kelly: </p>
<blockquote><p>  Less than four hours after holding a hearing, Judge Charles Breyer (83-year-old Clinton appointee and brother of former SC Justice Stephen) issues a 36-page opinion to support granting a temp restraining order related to Trump&#8217;s deployment of the National Guard in California.</p>
<p>This was written before the hearing&#8211;no question. It is filled with political rhetoric intended to create headlines</p>
<p>FWIW I am fine with National Guard leaving LA. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1933333155299405963" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1933333155299405963</a></p>
<p>Couple of pages of the decision at link.</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/12/la-riot-arrests/#comment-2806424</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2025 23:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s good progress, but there&#039;s also this:

&lt;a href=&#039;https://x.com/MichelleMaxwell/status/1932831889238474805?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1932831889238474805%7Ctwgr%5E8b1ffbeaa39f6ecff3592e8c2652e6dadb9c0bfa%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&#038;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F725562%2F&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Bricks For Hire&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;A recent review of the California Democratic Party&#039;s May 2025 expense report has uncovered a significant and controversial expenditure: the purchase of 200 pallets of construction-grade bricks.&quot;

In response to the controversy, the California Democratic Party has stated that the brick purchase was intended for future infrastructure projects. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Now that they&#039;ve been delivered:  Where exactly are they?  A traceable transaction for an AG to investigate, and for witnesses to testify about - to a Grand Jury.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s good progress, but there&#8217;s also this:</p>
<p><a href='https://x.com/MichelleMaxwell/status/1932831889238474805?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1932831889238474805%7Ctwgr%5E8b1ffbeaa39f6ecff3592e8c2652e6dadb9c0bfa%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&amp;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F725562%2F' rel="nofollow ugc">Bricks For Hire</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;A recent review of the California Democratic Party&#8217;s May 2025 expense report has uncovered a significant and controversial expenditure: the purchase of 200 pallets of construction-grade bricks.&#8221;</p>
<p>In response to the controversy, the California Democratic Party has stated that the brick purchase was intended for future infrastructure projects. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>Now that they&#8217;ve been delivered:  Where exactly are they?  A traceable transaction for an AG to investigate, and for witnesses to testify about &#8211; to a Grand Jury.</p>
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		By: Bob Wilson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/06/12/la-riot-arrests/#comment-2806410</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2025 22:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jwm: Attorney General Bondi said that they are going to be charged under the Hobbs act which covers interstate commerce crimes. As a result, they will be tried in federal courts by federal attorneys, such as Essayli.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jwm: Attorney General Bondi said that they are going to be charged under the Hobbs act which covers interstate commerce crimes. As a result, they will be tried in federal courts by federal attorneys, such as Essayli.</p>
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