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		By: HC68		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/17/scotus-rules-against-alien-enemies-deportations/#comment-2802793</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HC68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2025 19:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Being afraid of bad press and ostracism from social circles is just pusillanimity.&quot; -- AesopFan

Perhaps so, but if so it makes the majority of the human race pusillanimous.

People care what their spouses, relatives, friends, and neighbors think.  It&#039;s basic human nature, we&#039;re _tribal_ .  It&#039;s hardwired into us, though to varying degrees.  There are people who would face down a painful death without flinching for a cause they believe in, but who would back down to that kind of disapproval from friends and loved ones.

There are people who have committed suicide rather than face social rejection.  

Plus the possibility, or fear, that crossing the Establishment might bring negative consequences not just to them but to their families as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Being afraid of bad press and ostracism from social circles is just pusillanimity.&#8221; &#8212; AesopFan</p>
<p>Perhaps so, but if so it makes the majority of the human race pusillanimous.</p>
<p>People care what their spouses, relatives, friends, and neighbors think.  It&#8217;s basic human nature, we&#8217;re _tribal_ .  It&#8217;s hardwired into us, though to varying degrees.  There are people who would face down a painful death without flinching for a cause they believe in, but who would back down to that kind of disapproval from friends and loved ones.</p>
<p>There are people who have committed suicide rather than face social rejection.  </p>
<p>Plus the possibility, or fear, that crossing the Establishment might bring negative consequences not just to them but to their families as well.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/17/scotus-rules-against-alien-enemies-deportations/#comment-2802690</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 23:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan,

With respect to &quot;Maryland Man&quot;, the Dems want to accept the decision of the 3rd immigration court, and ignore the first two. They don&#039;t even care what the 3rd court ruled (that he can&#039;t be sent to Guatemala). 

They are just in opposition to Trump, because he&#039;s blocking their power play.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan,</p>
<p>With respect to &#8220;Maryland Man&#8221;, the Dems want to accept the decision of the 3rd immigration court, and ignore the first two. They don&#8217;t even care what the 3rd court ruled (that he can&#8217;t be sent to Guatemala). </p>
<p>They are just in opposition to Trump, because he&#8217;s blocking their power play.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@AesopFan:&lt;i&gt;It’s a vary narrow slice of More’s life, but a magnificent play.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree that it is a delightful and inspiring narrative. But it&#039;s not the real More, is all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AesopFan:<i>It’s a vary narrow slice of More’s life, but a magnificent play.</i></p>
<p>I agree that it is a delightful and inspiring narrative. But it&#8217;s not the real More, is all.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/17/scotus-rules-against-alien-enemies-deportations/#comment-2802659</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 19:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Niketas - I am quite aware of the negative sides of Luther and More, which is why I said &quot;one of the reasons&quot; we venerate them (possibly the only one!) is their courage in the face of possible (Luther) and certain (More) death. In fact, Luther barely escaped execution, thanks to the shelter of one of the German princes of the day.

I don&#039;t think their other ideological and political positions find much positive resonance today, although there are some Democrats and Leftists that might applaud a few of them, de facto if not de jure.

And I fully agree that &quot;Some of the people killed with the approval of More or Luther would have been better candidates for “veneration”. -&quot;

Mine was a single-issue example, familiar to many people from the &quot;filtered&quot; version, as are most historical vitae and events.

PS I confess to being somewhat biased toward the filtered version, as I worked tech for a college production of &quot;A Man for All Seasons&quot; in which AesopSpouse-to-be played Sir Thomas.
It&#039;s a vary narrow slice of More&#039;s life, but a magnificent play.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Niketas &#8211; I am quite aware of the negative sides of Luther and More, which is why I said &#8220;one of the reasons&#8221; we venerate them (possibly the only one!) is their courage in the face of possible (Luther) and certain (More) death. In fact, Luther barely escaped execution, thanks to the shelter of one of the German princes of the day.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think their other ideological and political positions find much positive resonance today, although there are some Democrats and Leftists that might applaud a few of them, de facto if not de jure.</p>
<p>And I fully agree that &#8220;Some of the people killed with the approval of More or Luther would have been better candidates for “veneration”. -&#8221;</p>
<p>Mine was a single-issue example, familiar to many people from the &#8220;filtered&#8221; version, as are most historical vitae and events.</p>
<p>PS I confess to being somewhat biased toward the filtered version, as I worked tech for a college production of &#8220;A Man for All Seasons&#8221; in which AesopSpouse-to-be played Sir Thomas.<br />
It&#8217;s a vary narrow slice of More&#8217;s life, but a magnificent play.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/17/scotus-rules-against-alien-enemies-deportations/#comment-2802657</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 19:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I note that in every other aspect of governance except immigration, the Democrats are more than happy to accept the judgements of administrative courts, who are the creatures of the bureaucracy (as is the DOJ), not the judicial system.
Funny, that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that in every other aspect of governance except immigration, the Democrats are more than happy to accept the judgements of administrative courts, who are the creatures of the bureaucracy (as is the DOJ), not the judicial system.<br />
Funny, that.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/17/scotus-rules-against-alien-enemies-deportations/#comment-2802648</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 18:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JFM, with respect to criminal charges they will have the same rights as US citizens. However, with respect to immigration proceedings they don&#039;t have much in the way of rights, they don&#039;t get a jury trial and the judges are not part of the judicial branch but DOJ administrative judges.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFM, with respect to criminal charges they will have the same rights as US citizens. However, with respect to immigration proceedings they don&#8217;t have much in the way of rights, they don&#8217;t get a jury trial and the judges are not part of the judicial branch but DOJ administrative judges.</p>
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		By: JFM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JFM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 18:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This may sound odd, but what rights do illegal aliens actually have? Any rights that they do have is through the largesse of the People of the United States. Shouldn’t the rights of Americans trump those of illegal aliens? I know that it’s way more complicated than that, but the question remains. What rights do illegal aliens have?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may sound odd, but what rights do illegal aliens actually have? Any rights that they do have is through the largesse of the People of the United States. Shouldn’t the rights of Americans trump those of illegal aliens? I know that it’s way more complicated than that, but the question remains. What rights do illegal aliens have?</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/17/scotus-rules-against-alien-enemies-deportations/#comment-2802638</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 17:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I watched a good &quot;man in the street&quot; interview on immigration, and the fact the Biden administration claimed they needed a new law to deal with the issue but then Trump did so without any new law. The interviewer was doing it in what appeared to be a liberal beachside area, it looked like SoCal.

The pro-Trump side has a clear view. The Democrat side was confused or claimed to be confused and rejected any data offered. A lot of mental gymnastics from the left on this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched a good &#8220;man in the street&#8221; interview on immigration, and the fact the Biden administration claimed they needed a new law to deal with the issue but then Trump did so without any new law. The interviewer was doing it in what appeared to be a liberal beachside area, it looked like SoCal.</p>
<p>The pro-Trump side has a clear view. The Democrat side was confused or claimed to be confused and rejected any data offered. A lot of mental gymnastics from the left on this.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/17/scotus-rules-against-alien-enemies-deportations/#comment-2802636</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 16:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What seems to get lost in this discussion is that immigration judges are administrative judges and DOJ employees. There isn&#039;t much due process since it is just about determining if someone should be deported. And there are no juries, just a judge. AG or POTUS rightfully can overrule them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What seems to get lost in this discussion is that immigration judges are administrative judges and DOJ employees. There isn&#8217;t much due process since it is just about determining if someone should be deported. And there are no juries, just a judge. AG or POTUS rightfully can overrule them.</p>
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		By: Dax		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 16:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Niketas, thanks for your post at 8:40 am. Very interesting!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niketas, thanks for your post at 8:40 am. Very interesting!</p>
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