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		By: mkent		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/14/the-high-cost-of-democrat-virtue-signaling/#comment-2802137</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mkent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 18:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;”It’s been interesting to see that the new Leftist position is that people who have lived in Africa for 400 years are Europeans who need to ‘go back to Europe’ (Germany or wherever lol), but that Africans or South Americans who arrived in the US or Europe last Thursday need to stay there forever.”&lt;/i&gt;

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, because it needs repeating: &lt;b&gt;The issue is not the issue!  The issue is the Revolution.&lt;/b&gt;

The issue is not South Africans in South Africa or Guatemalans in America.  The issue is the Revolution and how to further it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>”It’s been interesting to see that the new Leftist position is that people who have lived in Africa for 400 years are Europeans who need to ‘go back to Europe’ (Germany or wherever lol), but that Africans or South Americans who arrived in the US or Europe last Thursday need to stay there forever.”</i></p>
<p>I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, because it needs repeating: <b>The issue is not the issue!  The issue is the Revolution.</b></p>
<p>The issue is not South Africans in South Africa or Guatemalans in America.  The issue is the Revolution and how to further it.</p>
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		By: Skip		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/14/the-high-cost-of-democrat-virtue-signaling/#comment-2802131</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 18:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t think mentally ill actually covers this, it&#039;s more to me brainwashing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t think mentally ill actually covers this, it&#8217;s more to me brainwashing.</p>
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		By: Cavendish		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/14/the-high-cost-of-democrat-virtue-signaling/#comment-2802087</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cavendish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 08:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few questions: What is the difference between &quot;mental illness&quot; and &quot;incapable of thinking rationally&quot;?  What, precisely, is the definition of &quot;thinking rationally&quot;? And, is &quot;incapable of thinking rationally&quot; suffered uniformly and consistently, or is it situationally dependent? 

By that I mean, is a person living independently in a capitalist society who fully embraces and aligns with Rachel Maddow and Bernie Sanders but  can easily discern and choose between between grapes at Fred&#039;s for $2.00/lb versus identical grapes at Jane&#039;s for $1.75/lb is, by one measure, demonstrating irrationality in the former but rationality in the latter; does that mean he or she is &quot;partially mentally ill&quot; or subject to &quot;situational irrationality&quot;? And, if it&#039;s &quot;situational irrationality&quot; exactly what does that mean, and how does it relate to &quot;mental illness&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few questions: What is the difference between &#8220;mental illness&#8221; and &#8220;incapable of thinking rationally&#8221;?  What, precisely, is the definition of &#8220;thinking rationally&#8221;? And, is &#8220;incapable of thinking rationally&#8221; suffered uniformly and consistently, or is it situationally dependent? </p>
<p>By that I mean, is a person living independently in a capitalist society who fully embraces and aligns with Rachel Maddow and Bernie Sanders but  can easily discern and choose between between grapes at Fred&#8217;s for $2.00/lb versus identical grapes at Jane&#8217;s for $1.75/lb is, by one measure, demonstrating irrationality in the former but rationality in the latter; does that mean he or she is &#8220;partially mentally ill&#8221; or subject to &#8220;situational irrationality&#8221;? And, if it&#8217;s &#8220;situational irrationality&#8221; exactly what does that mean, and how does it relate to &#8220;mental illness&#8221;?</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/14/the-high-cost-of-democrat-virtue-signaling/#comment-2802063</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 01:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been interesting to see that the new Leftist position is that people who have lived in Africa for 400 years are Europeans who need to &quot;go back to Europe&quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/05/13/someone-should-be-fired-after-cnn-analyst-goes-on-wild-racist-rant-against-white-south-afrikaners-n2189017&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Germany or wherever lol&lt;/a&gt;), but that Africans or South Americans who arrived in the US or Europe last Thursday need to stay there forever.

I don&#039;t think they have thought the implications all the way through. But they never do, they never apply logic consistently. The desired outcome is always known in advance and whatever argument is at hand is used to advance it, and dropped when inconvenient. We have always been at war with Eastasia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been interesting to see that the new Leftist position is that people who have lived in Africa for 400 years are Europeans who need to &#8220;go back to Europe&#8221; (<a href="https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/05/13/someone-should-be-fired-after-cnn-analyst-goes-on-wild-racist-rant-against-white-south-afrikaners-n2189017" rel="nofollow ugc">Germany or wherever lol</a>), but that Africans or South Americans who arrived in the US or Europe last Thursday need to stay there forever.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think they have thought the implications all the way through. But they never do, they never apply logic consistently. The desired outcome is always known in advance and whatever argument is at hand is used to advance it, and dropped when inconvenient. We have always been at war with Eastasia.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 00:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Nearly two hundred illegal aliens have been arrested in DC. Read some of their criminal histories; it’s astounding that Democrat authorities previously refused to cooperate with ICE about these people&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

It can be argued that a refusal to cooperate with ICE is an active obstruction of justice. Charge them and let them have their day(s) in court. Democrats established the &#039;playing field&#039; make &#039;the resistance&#039; play on that field.

&quot;18 USC Ch. 73: OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE 
18 U.S.C. § 1510: This section addresses obstructing criminal investigations, including preventing witnesses from reporting crimes or &lt;b&gt;complying with law enforcement requests&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Nearly two hundred illegal aliens have been arrested in DC. Read some of their criminal histories; it’s astounding that Democrat authorities previously refused to cooperate with ICE about these people&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>It can be argued that a refusal to cooperate with ICE is an active obstruction of justice. Charge them and let them have their day(s) in court. Democrats established the &#8216;playing field&#8217; make &#8216;the resistance&#8217; play on that field.</p>
<p>&#8220;18 USC Ch. 73: OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE<br />
18 U.S.C. § 1510: This section addresses obstructing criminal investigations, including preventing witnesses from reporting crimes or <b>complying with law enforcement requests</b>.&#8221;</p>
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		By: NancyB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NancyB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 00:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have had *many* people tell me stories such as their friend having to to cancel a trip to a wedding abroad because as a naturalized citizen, they were afraid they wouldn&#039;t be readmitted.  Or they are afraid to go abroad because they once went to a pipeline protest, although a native born citizen.  Obviously the trope is being heavily circulated in blue circles.  I was also told that no tourists from Europe are coming here because of the horrible things which might happen to them from ICE here.  

As for the good citizens of DC, my former home, here&#039;s an email message on the local listserv of the affluent neighborhood where I once lived:

&quot;Council member Frumin points out the threats from ICE which is a step in the right direction. Please encourage him to go further. ANC [Advisory Neighborhood Commissioner] Courtney Carlson took action and used her voice. Bo Blair stood up for his employees at Millie&#039;s [local restaurant]. The mayor and council could be doing the same and more. The silence and acquiescence of our city leaders has yet to deliver us special treatment. They should join and support those who push back.&quot; 

Some of the substacks I read are developing interesting theories of &quot;anti-Fascism&quot; as the driving ideology of these people, and their heroism in their own minds as standing up and preventing it.  

Here&#039;s Ed West&#039;s take, mostly about Germany, but applicable widely:

https://tinyurl.com/mpntrf2e]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had *many* people tell me stories such as their friend having to to cancel a trip to a wedding abroad because as a naturalized citizen, they were afraid they wouldn&#8217;t be readmitted.  Or they are afraid to go abroad because they once went to a pipeline protest, although a native born citizen.  Obviously the trope is being heavily circulated in blue circles.  I was also told that no tourists from Europe are coming here because of the horrible things which might happen to them from ICE here.  </p>
<p>As for the good citizens of DC, my former home, here&#8217;s an email message on the local listserv of the affluent neighborhood where I once lived:</p>
<p>&#8220;Council member Frumin points out the threats from ICE which is a step in the right direction. Please encourage him to go further. ANC [Advisory Neighborhood Commissioner] Courtney Carlson took action and used her voice. Bo Blair stood up for his employees at Millie&#8217;s [local restaurant]. The mayor and council could be doing the same and more. The silence and acquiescence of our city leaders has yet to deliver us special treatment. They should join and support those who push back.&#8221; </p>
<p>Some of the substacks I read are developing interesting theories of &#8220;anti-Fascism&#8221; as the driving ideology of these people, and their heroism in their own minds as standing up and preventing it.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Ed West&#8217;s take, mostly about Germany, but applicable widely:</p>
<p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/mpntrf2e" rel="nofollow ugc">https://tinyurl.com/mpntrf2e</a></p>
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		By: Cap'n Rusty		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/14/the-high-cost-of-democrat-virtue-signaling/#comment-2802056</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cap'n Rusty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 23:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your acquaintance did not reason her way into her positions, and thus, having no factual support for them, cannot be reasoned out of them. She is floating above an intellectual abyss, and must cling ever so tightly to her positions, however illogical they might be, because it&#039;s a long way to fall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your acquaintance did not reason her way into her positions, and thus, having no factual support for them, cannot be reasoned out of them. She is floating above an intellectual abyss, and must cling ever so tightly to her positions, however illogical they might be, because it&#8217;s a long way to fall.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 23:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard F Cook
&lt;i&gt;Your friend is mentally ill. In the the face of facts they have to believe their version of reality to maintain their concept of how virtuous they think they are.&lt;/i&gt;
She lacks the knowledge and thinking ability to evaluate what Rachel Maddow says. Instead, she uncritically accepts whatever Rachel Maddow says. Such as the libel lawsuit involving Rachel Maddow. Or she has the thinking ability to evaluate what Rachel Maddow says, but refuses to do so.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/21/nx-s1-5305268/nbc-settles-lawsuit-ice-doctor-msnbc-maddow-georgia-detainee]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard F Cook<br />
<i>Your friend is mentally ill. In the the face of facts they have to believe their version of reality to maintain their concept of how virtuous they think they are.</i><br />
She lacks the knowledge and thinking ability to evaluate what Rachel Maddow says. Instead, she uncritically accepts whatever Rachel Maddow says. Such as the libel lawsuit involving Rachel Maddow. Or she has the thinking ability to evaluate what Rachel Maddow says, but refuses to do so.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/02/21/nx-s1-5305268/nbc-settles-lawsuit-ice-doctor-msnbc-maddow-georgia-detainee" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.npr.org/2025/02/21/nx-s1-5305268/nbc-settles-lawsuit-ice-doctor-msnbc-maddow-georgia-detainee</a></p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 23:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, huxley, sorry. It&#039;s highly irrational behavior unmoored in any facts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, huxley, sorry. It&#8217;s highly irrational behavior unmoored in any facts.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/05/14/the-high-cost-of-democrat-virtue-signaling/#comment-2802048</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 23:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Mental Illness

I do wish this term were retired from political discourse. 

Humans are imperfect, emotional, tribal beings. What we are seeing with Democrats is regrettable, though not unusual in history.

Mental illness is a different kettle of fish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Mental Illness</p>
<p>I do wish this term were retired from political discourse. </p>
<p>Humans are imperfect, emotional, tribal beings. What we are seeing with Democrats is regrettable, though not unusual in history.</p>
<p>Mental illness is a different kettle of fish.</p>
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