Well if it isn’t Comrade Substance out to play. Aren’t you supposed to be dining out at the crow buffet?

But no. Apparently you’re back to engage in pearl clutching horsecrap as you are wont to do, while also doing very little of substance, while showing you uncritically accept the left wing MSM’s framing… at least when you think it will benefit your case. I’d call this Gell-Mann Amnesia but I think that is too generous because I suspect there’s little in the way of actual amnesia going on so much as wanton gaslighting.

Afte Justin Trudeau resigned in failure, Conservatives were leading the polls by a mile.

The problem is that “mile” wasn’t nearly as much of an advantage as it looked, and the Libs and their allies skillfully moved to close the gap, starting with Trudeau’s resignation. And notably this began even before Trump’s inauguration. Moreover, Poilievre did not adequately counter this.

Hence some very cogent comments on LI:

Christopher B | April 28, 2025 at 9:16 pm
This analysis is way too Trump-centric.

Take a look at the opinion polls over time here

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/

(Scroll down a bit to find the graph. It goes back to 2021 but you can adjust the time frame down to start in 2025)

Take a look at when the Liberal Party popularity takes an upswing. Here’s a hint … it happens between January 6 and 13, 2025 immediately after Justin Trudeau announced his resignation pending the selection of a new Liberal Party leader. While it is true there is another upswing in March 2025, the Liberals were rocketing up long before Trump was even inaugurated. Also interesting to note the crash in support for the NDP and other minor parties such as the Greens around the same time which is probably indicative of a shift to the Liberals after Trudeau was sacked.

CommoChief | April 29, 2025 at 6:49 am
Meh. The Canadians have long since embraced a lefty socialist system. A couple of western Provinces which have more of a blue collar, work with their hands local economy reject that.

The polls were IMO a mirage based on anti Trudeau sentiment and when he resigned (and basically went silent) the liberals picked up steam. Also worth remembering that the new Liberal successor, Carney, wasn’t an elected politician till yesterday. He was able to leverage that into enough of a ‘political outsider’ status to recapture frustrated liberals.

Don’t underestimate the significant structural advantage for the liberals. They have a captured media to run what amounts to propaganda. They control all the institutions. Basically like the d/prog do here but without a Fox News or very much alt media. The Angus Reid poll from end of ’24 had the Conservatives at 45%, same.poll this week at 40%. Not a huge shift. The majority of Canadians sad to say like big gov’t and prefer govt intrusion/control to lower taxation, more individual liberty.

And why over at Rebel Media they chiefly highlighted this:

https://www.rebelnews.com/why_did_pierre_poilievre_lose_the_election

Under Pierre Poilievre, the Conservatives received a higher vote share than any party has since 1988: 41.4%. That was enough to give Brian Mulroney a majority government. But Mulroney was fighting against a divided left.

The most important factor in this election was Jagmeet Singh happily euthanizing the NDP, taking it down to just 6.3% and 7 seats. Singh had thrown in the towel years ago and was a de facto Liberal for years — it will be interesting to see what patronage he receives as a thank-you.

The Green Party went even further, formally cancelling nearly a hundred of their own candidates, explicitly so as not to split the left. Left-wing Canadians don’t need the NDP or the Greens: Canadians are about to learn how radical Mark Carney is on everything from net zero to foreign policy.

He didn’t need to keep up the anti-Americanism in his speech last night — the election is over. But he chose to, because he believes in realigning Canada with China, just as he had done with Brookfield Asset Management. I’ve called Carney Trudeau 2.0 — but smarter and harder working.

That’s true, and Carney has most of the same team as Trudeau, including the disgraced Rasputin figure, Gerald Butts. But Carney — and his extremist wife — are deep ideological activists, whereas Trudeau was more of a cliche-spouting mascot.

All of this was a big problem even before Trump. I do think Trump on the whole made things worse, and I have complained about that before. But the idea that Poilievre had this locked in was a chimera, an illusion. His lead was never unassailable and indeed a united left wing coalition would find it easy enough to match and defeat. Which is precisely what happened and why to be frank it looks like the turning point of this happened before.

And we were all watching and admiring speeches by Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre.

Perhaps, but “we all” were not all those involved or even relevant. Unlike you, the left adapted and had begun doing so even before Trump, while Poilievre and the Conservatives did not. Indeed, they and the Lib dominated media up there willfully did not adjust even after this began, hence why you are uncritically talking about Trump starting the trade war while displaying selective amnesia about Canadian tariffs and other shenanigans beforehand. I do believe Trump rode the 51st State thing too hard for too long and this hurt Pollievre (whether intentionally or not), but Pollievre was already in more trouble than he knew as Mark Steyn pointed out, precisely because he rested on his coattails.

https://www.steynonline.com/15249/losers-gotta-lose

Then Trump took office, repeatedly and inexplicably shot his mouth off about annexing Canada, tore up the free trade agreement he had negotiated with Canada during his first term and launched a full scale trade war. Immediately thereafter, Canadian Liberals roared back from the dead to not only win, but win convincingly. In the matter of a few months, Pierre Poilievre went from Prime Minister in waiting to now being ousted from from the Canadian Parliament altogether.

Again, as Steyn and Rebel Media and others pointed out, this was obtained by the left wing coalition collapsing and rallying around the Lib Party tentpole, a process that began well before Trump’s inauguration.

And again, I’ll note that while Trump launched a “full scale trade war” that was in response to the Canadians tariffing the US and otherwise violating previous agreements.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/panel-finds-canadas-practice-reserving-dairy-quotas-inconsistent-with-usmca-2022-01-04/

Among other things.

But none of those things allows you to blame everything on Trump and moreover to claim that Trump was completely unjustified in doing what he did. All while completely ignoring the utterly fucking unhinged, thoroughly mendacious propaganda on both sides of the border trying to paint Trump as an unhinged warmonger to try and gin up the spirit of 1812 (a Big Lie I note you are all too happy to go along with) while painting Carney as a strong horse.

Do I think Trump handled the Canadian issue as well as possible? No. In particular I believe he rode the 51st State thing far past when it was funny. But what is completely missing from your “analysis” (and I barely deign to call it that, because it actually isn’t based on analyzing jack shit, not even the actual polls, so much as hauling the Orange Man Bad trombone out of your arse) is anything on the Canadian side, who are portrayed as purely reacting to American and particularly Trumpian outrage.

It’s ironic how trying to paint Poilievre as a passive victim of Trump’s totally-unjustified-and-for-no-reason-one-day actions, given how that would underline how he failed to adjust. But doubly so there.

Nah. I’m sure Trump’s behavior had nothing to do with it.

Strawman. I do think Trump’s behavior had plenty to do with it, but I don’t think it was decisive. And if you took the polls half as seriously as you claim, you’d have noticed what a more or less united left wing vote share would do.

Trump is King Midas in reverse.

Says a dumbfuck gaslighter who probably does not know the first thing about Canadian politics or affairs, or what Trump has done on the Pacific Rim.

In reality you are King Midas in Reverse when it comes to analysis on Trump.

And now comes Miguel Cervantes to claim that the election was stolen. Tell me, are you picking any AM signals with that tinfoil hat?

He could only wish to get as good a reception as you do with yours, o Bauxite.

As for stolen? I think that’s overstating it. I certainly would not rule out some level of funny business in places like Ontario and even less with Lib Party armtwisting, but ultimately this election saw the Cons cruising for a bruising if the left wing parties rallied around the Libs (like they did) even without Trump, though I do think Trump made this worse.

In all seriousness, MAGA has become like the boy who cried wolf with the claims of election fraud.

Says the person who has cried wolf about Trump being useless, midas in reverse, or the weakest of Republican candidates (without a fucking iota of evidence, I might add, hence the pervasive statistical illiteracy). I have plenty of issues with MAGA’s poor follow through with fraud, but it is better than allowing it there.

I’m not discounting or denying leftist dirty tricks at all, but sometimes you lose elections because the people preferred the other party.

Sure. And the place of balance in Canada is well to the left, as is shown by the voter share. Which the Libs brought “home” around themselves, helped by a censorious and biased media. Trump I think worsened this, especially among older Canadians, but he did not cause it.

In a situation like this where the country of Canada is literally under threat of annexation from the United States, it is not surprising in the least that voters turned to the Liberal party.

“Threat of annexation from the United States.”

It’s amazing how Bauxite wants to be a fucking mendacious idiot uncritically signal boosting the most deranged hysteria from the left and MSM (at least when it is convenient to him on the Orange Whale Hunt), and demands we take this seriously. Without indicating the deeper problems there. And ironically I do think this shows a way in which the Libs prepared the battle space since before Trump’s inauguration. I am more than amenable to the fact that Trump’s 51st State thing was an unfunny joke he kept repeating and that the left helped goad him to do it more and then turned this into 1812 style threats of an invasion and annexation (made more credible by you). And for that Trump deserves a share of the blame.

But it’s important to measure and apportion shares of the blame. And it takes a fucking brainlet to not realize how this particular narrative was based on sand and involved much of the media blatantly lying about the “threats” and on behalf of Carney. Much as they had for Trudeau before.

It is, rightly, seen as the party most willing to stand up to Trump.

Perhaps, we will see.

And this is the same electorate that made Justin Trudeau prime minister so many times.

Remind me, when did Trudeau first get into office? Pierre or Justin. Doesn’t that hurt the Unified Theory of Bad Orange Man?

Oh, let’s not bother Bauxite with pesky things like *Checks notes*… Chronology.

It’s just a shame that so many sane Canadians are going to have to live under woke tyrants for another election cycle.

And yet you can do fuckall to answer why beyond blame Trump. And yet even one who is not fervently devoted to claiming Trump can do no wrong might question why a public would be willing to unite around a corrupt carpetbagger like Carney and nod its head to some of the most deranged gaslighting and messaging about Trump planning to invade Canada or Carney standing up to him by supposedly not answering his calls for days or weeks (Bullshit, absolute bullshit; even if I believed for a second direct contact was suspended – and I don’t – their staffs would have still been in contact, let alone how that would go against the cross border contact we had seen with the Canadians and Trump on both the National and Province level).

If you’re willing to vote for Trudeau’s henchman after the Trucker crackdown, corruption in the judiciary and corporate governance, alienating India, and a host of other issues because the Libs make an alliance with their partners to consolidate the vote and wave the bloody toga of Bad Orange Man, you have bigger problems than Bad Orange Man. If you cannot even try to counter this fact, then you are probably not the right person for primetime, pace Poilievre, as Mark Steyn pointed out.

People just don’t hear much anything else, not that they’re actively looking for it.
Besides, far more enjoyable to go hysterical.
And berserk…as this would seem to demonstrate clearly that you’re a serious and rational person…

Trump is America squared. I wouldn’t be at all surprised that a Canadian vote for Carney was a vote against Trump.

Many of the Canadian English came from those who fled the US due to the Revolution. They were the Loyalists.

And the French Canadians are worse.

I do wonder with that Minitrue bill the Parliament passed some years, how actually honest was the coverage of the neighbor to the South, I mean the Corporate Press here surpasses Fleet Street in their malfeasance, and they aren’t paid anymore (i don’t think,) I’m reminded of the dystopian Sino Anglo alliance in Joss whedon’s firefly, an Empire by different nomenclature, Oceania cross atlantic neighbor,

of course recent past is prologue except for Reverend Pavlovski, and the head of the Truckers union, really few spoke out against the Maple tyranny,