Comments on: Open thread 4/12/2025 https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/ A blog about political change, among other things Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:49:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: David Foster https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/#comment-2797275 Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:49:42 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=141117#comment-2797275 Here’s a post which contains Turing’s own original example of a test question, and my conversation with ChatGPT:

https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/69244.html

]]> By: Miguel cervantes https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/#comment-2797266 Mon, 14 Apr 2025 14:24:27 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=141117#comment-2797266 I saw that one recently greenstreet is not the worse villain in it,

Avengers is available on pluto, the show runner went on to remington steele and ugh highlander the quickening

]]> By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/#comment-2797253 Mon, 14 Apr 2025 10:06:26 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=141117#comment-2797253 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10QW3Az1FTw

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/#comment-2797245 Mon, 14 Apr 2025 06:02:30 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=141117#comment-2797245 I’m not sure it makes sense to say the Turing test is or isn’t “reliable”. It was just a suggestion, it’s not like a mathematical proof.

Niketas Choniates:
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Don’t you know when you’re being kidded?

–Humphrey Bogart, “The Maltese Falcon” (40:15)

]]> By: Rufus T. Firefly https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/#comment-2797232 Mon, 14 Apr 2025 01:28:25 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=141117#comment-2797232 Lucy in that video is truly beautiful. The embodiment of her mother’s love. And her piano teacher is a great man.

Thank you for sharing that.

]]> By: Niketas Choniates https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/#comment-2797231 Mon, 14 Apr 2025 01:19:12 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=141117#comment-2797231 I’m not sure it makes sense to say the Turing test is or isn’t “reliable”. It was just a suggestion, it’s not like a mathematical proof.

I’d say the Chinese room and p-zombies have more to say about humans vs AI. If there ever is a real AI rather than LLMs that are called so.

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/#comment-2797224 Sun, 13 Apr 2025 23:58:18 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=141117#comment-2797224 Turing died in 1953, thereabouts, [going to the Moon] wasn’t really his wheelhouse,

miguel cervantes:

No, it wasn’t. However, going to the AI Moon described by the Turing Test was very much in Turing’s wheelhouse.

That was revolutionary thinking and Turing got there first.

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/#comment-2797223 Sun, 13 Apr 2025 23:49:53 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=141117#comment-2797223 huxley, well, if the Turing test is no longer reliable, looks like we’ll have to have a word with Messrs. Voight and Kampff. They might have something we can use.

Philip Sells:

Always a pleasure to hear from you. Love the PKD (Philip K. Dick) reference.

I’m currently considering a future in which we are not hunting AI and AI is not hunting us. That’s something of a gap in our creative speculations about AI.

There’s Data, the clown-makeup android from Star Trek: Next Gen, who wants to be human so badly. He does mimic a human … badly.

At least Data is not sleep-talking like the robot Bender on Futurama: “Must kill all humans.”

Contrary to Data, today’s LLM AIs are much better at imitating human beings to the point of fooling human beings, rather than proving new math theorems.

]]> By: om https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/#comment-2797212 Sun, 13 Apr 2025 20:43:29 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=141117#comment-2797212 Open Thread Sunday – Russian war on Ukraine:

The Ukraine War After Kursk – Retreat, Lessons, Negotiations & The Coming Russian Offensive – Perun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id7qG26NQis

Timestamps:
00:00:00 — Opening Words
00:01:37 — What Am I Talking About?
00:02:05 — Kursk Closes Out
00:11:37 — Tactical Observations
00:28:16 — Evaluating Kursk
00:35:24 — Signs of More to Come
00:45:51 — a Russian Offensive?
00:45:59 — Motive
00:47:58 — Urgency
00:50:51 — Means
00:58:25 — Will It Be Enough?
01:00:59 — Channel Update

]]> By: miguel cervantes https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/open-thread-4-12-2025/#comment-2797203 Sun, 13 Apr 2025 18:27:40 +0000 https://thenewneo.com/?p=141117#comment-2797203 Turing died in 1953, thereabouts, that wasn’t really his wheelhouse, that was more Von Braun and a certain Soviet scientists name escapes me now, who calculated orbital trajectories, as for the Voight Kampf, well we know a whole host of persons who would fail it,

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