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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 09:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very strange that Illinois did not show up on that list of miscreants or at least receive “honorable mention”….

And WRT Elon Musk, the Democratic Party scum does indeed rise to the top…

https://instapundit.com/714231/
Key Graf:
‘Just back from George Clooney’s “Good Night and Good Luck,” Broadway play, which is a story about the importance of trust &#038; honesty in news. The play ends with @elonmusk on screen allegedly giving a Nazi salute.…’

+ Bonus (merely more election integrity, Democratic-Party style)…
“…Arizona to begin removing as many as 50K noncitizens from voter rolls following lawsuit”—-
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scoop-arizona-begin-removing-many-50k-non-citizens-from-voter-rolls-following-lawsuit]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very strange that Illinois did not show up on that list of miscreants or at least receive “honorable mention”….</p>
<p>And WRT Elon Musk, the Democratic Party scum does indeed rise to the top…</p>
<p><a href="https://instapundit.com/714231/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://instapundit.com/714231/</a><br />
Key Graf:<br />
‘Just back from George Clooney’s “Good Night and Good Luck,” Broadway play, which is a story about the importance of trust &amp; honesty in news. The play ends with @elonmusk on screen allegedly giving a Nazi salute.…’</p>
<p>+ Bonus (merely more election integrity, Democratic-Party style)…<br />
“…Arizona to begin removing as many as 50K noncitizens from voter rolls following lawsuit”—-<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scoop-arizona-begin-removing-many-50k-non-citizens-from-voter-rolls-following-lawsuit" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scoop-arizona-begin-removing-many-50k-non-citizens-from-voter-rolls-following-lawsuit</a></p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/on-fraudulent-unemployment-benefits/#comment-2797197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2025 17:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unemployment compensation is one of the few state and local activities properly financed by the central government (unless you&#039;re going to turn over administration to the feds as well).  The others would be Medicaid, maintenance of long-haul Interstates, and (episodic) disaster relief. You add to these four  an unrestricted grant to the states and territories of a value north of 2% of gross domestic product and distributed according to a formula; each state&#039;s share would be directly correlated with a state&#039;s resident population and with the ratio of employee compensation to the population over 14 and inversely correlated with the state&#039;s personal income per capita. The most affluent jurisdictions (Connecticut, New Jersey, DC) would receive a grant of $0, the least affluent (off shore dependencies, Mississippi, West Virginia &#038;c) would receive the highest per capita.  In re grants to localities, these should be limited to episodic disaster relief and to property tax payments on federal real estate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unemployment compensation is one of the few state and local activities properly financed by the central government (unless you&#8217;re going to turn over administration to the feds as well).  The others would be Medicaid, maintenance of long-haul Interstates, and (episodic) disaster relief. You add to these four  an unrestricted grant to the states and territories of a value north of 2% of gross domestic product and distributed according to a formula; each state&#8217;s share would be directly correlated with a state&#8217;s resident population and with the ratio of employee compensation to the population over 14 and inversely correlated with the state&#8217;s personal income per capita. The most affluent jurisdictions (Connecticut, New Jersey, DC) would receive a grant of $0, the least affluent (off shore dependencies, Mississippi, West Virginia &amp;c) would receive the highest per capita.  In re grants to localities, these should be limited to episodic disaster relief and to property tax payments on federal real estate.</p>
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		By: Tom Gre		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/on-fraudulent-unemployment-benefits/#comment-2797194</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Gre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2025 16:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They didn’t quite know it, altho It Was Known, thus not much news, especially how much cash was lost.

While it would be nice to somehow make those states pay, there’s already too much Federal control and especially influence, based on Fed cash. Still, using that as leverage to get states to be more responsible seems better than just continuing to write more checks.

These frauds are each small or medium crimes, and J Justice demands some punishment.  To protect Rule of Law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn’t quite know it, altho It Was Known, thus not much news, especially how much cash was lost.</p>
<p>While it would be nice to somehow make those states pay, there’s already too much Federal control and especially influence, based on Fed cash. Still, using that as leverage to get states to be more responsible seems better than just continuing to write more checks.</p>
<p>These frauds are each small or medium crimes, and J Justice demands some punishment.  To protect Rule of Law.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2025 15:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Niketas has called it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Niketas has called it.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/on-fraudulent-unemployment-benefits/#comment-2797181</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2025 12:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since the NYT is obviously propagandizing here at the behest of some government insider, you have to click through, you have to read the NYT article (maybe using &lt;a href=&quot;https://archive.is/sIpYS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;archive.is&lt;/a&gt;) AND their links to what they say their sources are. So here in the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ETA/advisories/UIPL/2021/UIPL_16-21.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;DOL guidance&lt;/a&gt; is the &quot;pseudo-claim&quot; language:

&lt;blockquote&gt;One option states can use to mitigate negative impacts on ID theft victims is to establish a pseudo claim record and transfer all claim information regarding the imposter’s claim to the pseudo claim once the state makes a fraud determination. This removes the fraudulent activity from the victim&#039;s SSN, should the victim need to file for unemployment benefits in the future. Additionally, this preserves data from the fraudulent activity to be used for future analytics.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It says nothing in the there about putting obviously fake birth years into the pseudo-claim. It certainly does not say such claims should have been paid. There are many ways to tag such things in databases and you don&#039;t have to make fake birth years.

And that guidance was only in cases for cases of identity theft, which would not be all the fraud, of course.

The real story that the NYT is trying to distract from, is that it was up to states to administer the program, and quite a few states did not want to avoid paying fraudulent claims. Because that would be tiresome and costly work by state employees, might embarrass connected people and their clients, expose how much illegal immigrants and criminals are costing, and it&#039;s not the state&#039;s money.

&quot;We knew it all the time and paid it anyway, and didn&#039;t say anything until Musk started talking about it&quot; is not an excuse that can be expected to go over well with normal people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the NYT is obviously propagandizing here at the behest of some government insider, you have to click through, you have to read the NYT article (maybe using <a href="https://archive.is/sIpYS" rel="nofollow ugc">archive.is</a>) AND their links to what they say their sources are. So here in the <a href="https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ETA/advisories/UIPL/2021/UIPL_16-21.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">DOL guidance</a> is the &#8220;pseudo-claim&#8221; language:</p>
<blockquote><p>One option states can use to mitigate negative impacts on ID theft victims is to establish a pseudo claim record and transfer all claim information regarding the imposter’s claim to the pseudo claim once the state makes a fraud determination. This removes the fraudulent activity from the victim&#8217;s SSN, should the victim need to file for unemployment benefits in the future. Additionally, this preserves data from the fraudulent activity to be used for future analytics.</p></blockquote>
<p>It says nothing in the there about putting obviously fake birth years into the pseudo-claim. It certainly does not say such claims should have been paid. There are many ways to tag such things in databases and you don&#8217;t have to make fake birth years.</p>
<p>And that guidance was only in cases for cases of identity theft, which would not be all the fraud, of course.</p>
<p>The real story that the NYT is trying to distract from, is that it was up to states to administer the program, and quite a few states did not want to avoid paying fraudulent claims. Because that would be tiresome and costly work by state employees, might embarrass connected people and their clients, expose how much illegal immigrants and criminals are costing, and it&#8217;s not the state&#8217;s money.</p>
<p>&#8220;We knew it all the time and paid it anyway, and didn&#8217;t say anything until Musk started talking about it&#8221; is not an excuse that can be expected to go over well with normal people.</p>
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		By: Cavendish		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cavendish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2025 11:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;...80% of which have been centered in three states...&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

The level of fraud, and, seemingly, the ease with which it is committed and the probability that such fraud is enabled by a particular flavor, and behavior,  of government, would seem the perfect reason for terminating all federal aid and payments, down to the last nickel, pending the correction of the fraud and the instituting of solid preventive measures. 

CA, NY and MA, or any state for that matter, should be able to freely squander their taxpayers&#039; money in any quantity and manner they choose - it&#039;s a self-inflcted wound for whomever has chosen to live there - but once they reach outside their borders into federal taxpayers&#039; pockets, the rest of us should have a say in the matter. Not that fraud, of any degree or amount, should be tolerated in any of the states, but that such a large percentage occurs in only 3 jurisdictions makes, or should make, those three an easy target for reform. 

And I say &quot;NO.&quot; 

Fortunately, the current federal administration, so far, agrees with people like me. Whether they - and I have very severe doubts about Congress&#039; integrity on such matters - agree enough to take action, I await the tally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;80% of which have been centered in three states&#8230;&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>The level of fraud, and, seemingly, the ease with which it is committed and the probability that such fraud is enabled by a particular flavor, and behavior,  of government, would seem the perfect reason for terminating all federal aid and payments, down to the last nickel, pending the correction of the fraud and the instituting of solid preventive measures. </p>
<p>CA, NY and MA, or any state for that matter, should be able to freely squander their taxpayers&#8217; money in any quantity and manner they choose &#8211; it&#8217;s a self-inflcted wound for whomever has chosen to live there &#8211; but once they reach outside their borders into federal taxpayers&#8217; pockets, the rest of us should have a say in the matter. Not that fraud, of any degree or amount, should be tolerated in any of the states, but that such a large percentage occurs in only 3 jurisdictions makes, or should make, those three an easy target for reform. </p>
<p>And I say &#8220;NO.&#8221; </p>
<p>Fortunately, the current federal administration, so far, agrees with people like me. Whether they &#8211; and I have very severe doubts about Congress&#8217; integrity on such matters &#8211; agree enough to take action, I await the tally.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2025 02:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fraud is simply one tool in a criminal enterprise&#039;s toolbox.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraud is simply one tool in a criminal enterprise&#8217;s toolbox.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/04/12/on-fraudulent-unemployment-benefits/#comment-2797153</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2025 01:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just for grins, figure it takes $2 to put a lunch on a poor kid&#039;s school table.   Times 180 school days is $360.  That&#039;s what it takes to give one kid lunch for a school year.
Pick your favorite fraud and divide by $360.  That&#039;s the number of poor-kid-lunch-years which went someplace else.
There are about fifty million kids in public schools in the US.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for grins, figure it takes $2 to put a lunch on a poor kid&#8217;s school table.   Times 180 school days is $360.  That&#8217;s what it takes to give one kid lunch for a school year.<br />
Pick your favorite fraud and divide by $360.  That&#8217;s the number of poor-kid-lunch-years which went someplace else.<br />
There are about fifty million kids in public schools in the US.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2025 00:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;What’s the third state in the fraud sweepstakes? Why, Massachusetts of course (those who live in New England probably know why I wrote “of course”&lt;/b&gt;

No surprise from  this New England native who long ago returned to my ancestral home of Texas. My sister&#039;s car got stolen.  The assumption was that it ended up in a Lynn chop shop. Lynn was next to Saugus MA, where my sister then lived.

My sister-in-law is a MA native. Her brother got involved, I am told, in some construction fraud involving the Ted Williams tunnel.   He paid for it, I am told.

Speaking of Lynn:&lt;a href=&quot;https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&#038;q=Lynn%2C+Lynn%2C+city+of+sin&#038;ia=web&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; Lynn, Lynn, city of sin&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;blockquote&gt;Lynn, Lynn the city of sin
You never come out, the way you came in
You ask for water, but they give you gin
The girls say no, yet they always give in
If your not bad, they won’t let you in
It’s the damndest city I’ve ever lived in
Lynn, Lynn the city of sin
You never come out, the way you came in.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>What’s the third state in the fraud sweepstakes? Why, Massachusetts of course (those who live in New England probably know why I wrote “of course”</b></p>
<p>No surprise from  this New England native who long ago returned to my ancestral home of Texas. My sister&#8217;s car got stolen.  The assumption was that it ended up in a Lynn chop shop. Lynn was next to Saugus MA, where my sister then lived.</p>
<p>My sister-in-law is a MA native. Her brother got involved, I am told, in some construction fraud involving the Ted Williams tunnel.   He paid for it, I am told.</p>
<p>Speaking of Lynn:<a href="https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&amp;q=Lynn%2C+Lynn%2C+city+of+sin&amp;ia=web" rel="nofollow ugc"> Lynn, Lynn, city of sin</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Lynn, Lynn the city of sin<br />
You never come out, the way you came in<br />
You ask for water, but they give you gin<br />
The girls say no, yet they always give in<br />
If your not bad, they won’t let you in<br />
It’s the damndest city I’ve ever lived in<br />
Lynn, Lynn the city of sin<br />
You never come out, the way you came in.
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2025 22:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Right, Jimmy. The governments knew about it, flagged these by altering the records (and I wonder if that&#039;s some kind of fraud by itself), and then did nothing about it.

This sort of thing is why the avalanche of false and duplicate Social Security numbers is such a big problem. With a number, illegals or fraudsters can receive all sorts of government subsidies and payments to which they are not entitled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Jimmy. The governments knew about it, flagged these by altering the records (and I wonder if that&#8217;s some kind of fraud by itself), and then did nothing about it.</p>
<p>This sort of thing is why the avalanche of false and duplicate Social Security numbers is such a big problem. With a number, illegals or fraudsters can receive all sorts of government subsidies and payments to which they are not entitled.</p>
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