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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Aggie &#062; &quot;This twin thing has a real Mormon vibe to it.&quot;

Actually, no.
That perception comes from tv shows and lurid exposés of apostate sects.
I know two families who had multiple twins among their siblings (which is not all that unusual when you have 9-12 kids in a family), and none of them married other twins.
Or even multiple spouses. 

We do have very close family relationships, though, for the most part.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Aggie &gt; &#8220;This twin thing has a real Mormon vibe to it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, no.<br />
That perception comes from tv shows and lurid exposés of apostate sects.<br />
I know two families who had multiple twins among their siblings (which is not all that unusual when you have 9-12 kids in a family), and none of them married other twins.<br />
Or even multiple spouses. </p>
<p>We do have very close family relationships, though, for the most part.</p>
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		By: BJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 17:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Huxley,

Thanks!  I did not know that Howard Hawks was the director of “The Thing From Another World”.  Now I’ll definitely have to add it to my watch list!

And lol! Yes, it would be quite bizarre to watch Handsome Captain and Pretty But No Nonsense Girl juxtaposed with the paranoia and horror of the two more recent movies of “The Thing”. There are a couple of women in the Norwegian crew “prequel”, but they’re too busy hunting down the Thing to flirt with anyone. ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Huxley,</p>
<p>Thanks!  I did not know that Howard Hawks was the director of “The Thing From Another World”.  Now I’ll definitely have to add it to my watch list!</p>
<p>And lol! Yes, it would be quite bizarre to watch Handsome Captain and Pretty But No Nonsense Girl juxtaposed with the paranoia and horror of the two more recent movies of “The Thing”. There are a couple of women in the Norwegian crew “prequel”, but they’re too busy hunting down the Thing to flirt with anyone. 😉</p>
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		By: F		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 15:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TJ:  

Thanks for that.  I am skeptical, because we&#039;ve heard a lot of rumors of misdeeds in Washington going unpunished, but I would be happy to be proven wrong in this case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ:  </p>
<p>Thanks for that.  I am skeptical, because we&#8217;ve heard a lot of rumors of misdeeds in Washington going unpunished, but I would be happy to be proven wrong in this case.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 12:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BIG SCANDAL is coming. Benny Johnson collects the ‘Big Story’ is coming soon assertions from Press Secretary Leavitt, Trump, and Musk, and Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchet, who is on the House DOGE committee.

He says the indications, including, Musk’s sarcastic innuendo at Dem. Minority Leader on X.com implies what’s it about will result in mass resignation and prosecutions of Democrat elected officials.

Burchet momentarily mentions California officials in this bind but not prosecuted —- yet, it seems. Grifting off Federal assets or receiving funds from China — probably more crime.

As Musk told apparently the DOGE committee in secret testimony, he’s got the financial receipts to back it up.

WATCH THIS SPACE, as they once used to say on billboards!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Wf9uO0zzA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BIG SCANDAL is coming. Benny Johnson collects the ‘Big Story’ is coming soon assertions from Press Secretary Leavitt, Trump, and Musk, and Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchet, who is on the House DOGE committee.</p>
<p>He says the indications, including, Musk’s sarcastic innuendo at Dem. Minority Leader on X.com implies what’s it about will result in mass resignation and prosecutions of Democrat elected officials.</p>
<p>Burchet momentarily mentions California officials in this bind but not prosecuted —- yet, it seems. Grifting off Federal assets or receiving funds from China — probably more crime.</p>
<p>As Musk told apparently the DOGE committee in secret testimony, he’s got the financial receipts to back it up.</p>
<p>WATCH THIS SPACE, as they once used to say on billboards!<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Wf9uO0zzA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Wf9uO0zzA</a></p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 12:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley, thanks for the flu vaccine research. The article doesn&#039;t say if they&#039;re working on it as an mRNA injection, although it does mention the proteins they&#039;re using, which makes it sound as if it may. But then it talks about a nasal swab rather than an injection. 

On the negative effect of this year&#039;s flu vaccine, I wonder if previous studies have been able to so extensively study non-vaccine subjects. This study was a captive audience: all Cleveland Clinic employees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley, thanks for the flu vaccine research. The article doesn&#8217;t say if they&#8217;re working on it as an mRNA injection, although it does mention the proteins they&#8217;re using, which makes it sound as if it may. But then it talks about a nasal swab rather than an injection. </p>
<p>On the negative effect of this year&#8217;s flu vaccine, I wonder if previous studies have been able to so extensively study non-vaccine subjects. This study was a captive audience: all Cleveland Clinic employees.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 04:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: “The Thing From Another World” (1951)

Aggie, BJ:

I just wanted to add that this is emphatically a classic Howard Hawks film. The director of &quot;To Have and Have Not&quot; and &quot;Hatari.&quot;

Which means it is like an old B&#038;W WW II film except they are in the Arctic battling a giant carrot from another world.

But the rest of it is all bluff, manly talk and some flirting around between the Handsome Captain and the Pretty But No Nonsense Girl, which sounds almost bizarre 70 years later.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: “The Thing From Another World” (1951)</p>
<p>Aggie, BJ:</p>
<p>I just wanted to add that this is emphatically a classic Howard Hawks film. The director of &#8220;To Have and Have Not&#8221; and &#8220;Hatari.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which means it is like an old B&amp;W WW II film except they are in the Arctic battling a giant carrot from another world.</p>
<p>But the rest of it is all bluff, manly talk and some flirting around between the Handsome Captain and the Pretty But No Nonsense Girl, which sounds almost bizarre 70 years later.</p>
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		By: BJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 03:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Aggie,

Yes, you’re right, the first movie adaption of “Who Goes There?” was called “The Thing From Another World” was from the 1950s, starring James Arness as “a giant carrot”,  as Stephen King put it in “Danse Macabre”, and subconscious paranoia about (quite literally) the Cold War.  I haven’t seen that one, though I have seen the 1982 Kurt Russell version (which tracks the original story more closely) and the 2011 “prequel” to the 1982 movie. 

Now, if you can follow all that, I’d like you to manage my stock portfolio. ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aggie,</p>
<p>Yes, you’re right, the first movie adaption of “Who Goes There?” was called “The Thing From Another World” was from the 1950s, starring James Arness as “a giant carrot”,  as Stephen King put it in “Danse Macabre”, and subconscious paranoia about (quite literally) the Cold War.  I haven’t seen that one, though I have seen the 1982 Kurt Russell version (which tracks the original story more closely) and the 2011 “prequel” to the 1982 movie. </p>
<p>Now, if you can follow all that, I’d like you to manage my stock portfolio. 😉</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 02:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@BJ, the first version was called &#039;The Thing from Another World&#039; and had the old science fiction B movie standby, Ken Tobey, as the star.  And it also featured James Arness - later, sheriff Matt Dillon - as &#039;The Thing&#039;.  He was 6&#039;7&quot;, so he was a convincing monster.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BJ, the first version was called &#8216;The Thing from Another World&#8217; and had the old science fiction B movie standby, Ken Tobey, as the star.  And it also featured James Arness &#8211; later, sheriff Matt Dillon &#8211; as &#8216;The Thing&#8217;.  He was 6&#8217;7&#8243;, so he was a convincing monster.</p>
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		By: Chang Yee Fong		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 01:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[¯\_(-,-)_/¯ it takes all sort to make the world .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>¯\_(-,-)_/¯ it takes all sort to make the world .</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 00:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Kate 4:11 pm

Here&#039;s an article explaining the relative failure of the recent flu vaccine:
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Landmark Cleveland Clinic Study Finds Flu Vaccine Ineffective—And Possibly Harmful—for Working Adults in 2024-2025 Season&lt;/b&gt;

This hard-hitting real-world analysis suggests &lt;b&gt;the 2024–2025 flu vaccine not only failed to protect working-age adults but may have increased their risk of infection.&lt;/b&gt; In an era of mounting skepticism and vaccine fatigue, public health authorities must reckon with data like this—not dismiss it.&lt;b&gt; Annual flu vaccine strategies may need a serious rethink, particularly in years of poor strain matching.&lt;/b&gt; At minimum, real-time effectiveness tracking should become a national imperative, not an afterthought.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/landmark-cleveland-clinic-study-finds-flu-vaccine-ineffectiveand-possibly-harmfulfor-working-adults-in-2024-2025-season-84b3b608&lt;/i&gt;
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The yearly flu vaccine has always been hit or miss. Which I haven&#039;t found inspiring. But negative effectiveness is new.

FWIW the study isn&#039;t yet peer-reviewed.

Also I ran into this:

&lt;i&gt;--&quot;Cleveland Clinic’s Groundbreaking Universal Vaccine Could End Flu Season Woes&quot;
https://scitechdaily.com/cleveland-clinics-groundbreaking-universal-vaccine-could-end-flu-season-woes/&lt;/i&gt;

One might question Cleveland Clinic&#039;s impartiality about the regular flu vaccine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kate 4:11 pm</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an article explaining the relative failure of the recent flu vaccine:<br />
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<p><i><b>Landmark Cleveland Clinic Study Finds Flu Vaccine Ineffective—And Possibly Harmful—for Working Adults in 2024-2025 Season</b></p>
<p>This hard-hitting real-world analysis suggests <b>the 2024–2025 flu vaccine not only failed to protect working-age adults but may have increased their risk of infection.</b> In an era of mounting skepticism and vaccine fatigue, public health authorities must reckon with data like this—not dismiss it.<b> Annual flu vaccine strategies may need a serious rethink, particularly in years of poor strain matching.</b> At minimum, real-time effectiveness tracking should become a national imperative, not an afterthought.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/landmark-cleveland-clinic-study-finds-flu-vaccine-ineffectiveand-possibly-harmfulfor-working-adults-in-2024-2025-season-84b3b608" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/landmark-cleveland-clinic-study-finds-flu-vaccine-ineffectiveand-possibly-harmfulfor-working-adults-in-2024-2025-season-84b3b608</a></i><br />
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<p>The yearly flu vaccine has always been hit or miss. Which I haven&#8217;t found inspiring. But negative effectiveness is new.</p>
<p>FWIW the study isn&#8217;t yet peer-reviewed.</p>
<p>Also I ran into this:</p>
<p><i>&#8211;&#8220;Cleveland Clinic’s Groundbreaking Universal Vaccine Could End Flu Season Woes&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://scitechdaily.com/cleveland-clinics-groundbreaking-universal-vaccine-could-end-flu-season-woes/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://scitechdaily.com/cleveland-clinics-groundbreaking-universal-vaccine-could-end-flu-season-woes/</a></i></p>
<p>One might question Cleveland Clinic&#8217;s impartiality about the regular flu vaccine.</p>
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