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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 06:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So let me get this straight.
The SAME PEOPLE who applauded enthusiastically when General Milley assured China---BEFOREHAND---that the US would NOT attack China regardless of what Trump decided to do or not to do; and the SAME PEOPLE who diligently leaked Israel&#039;s potential plans to attack Iran in response to Iran&#039;s (and friends&#039;) bombardments of Israel, are NOW up in arms because the Trump administration, having informed the Houthis to desist or face pushback from the US, has &quot;leaked&quot; plans to attack the Houthis? 

BTW, since when is there only ONE WAY to attack Houthis?
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+ Related (Matt Taibbi)
&quot;Chatgate: Senator Mark Warner&#039;s Shifting Stance on Leaks&quot;---
https://www.racket.news/p/chatgate-senator-mark-warners-shifting
H/T Powerline blog.

Opening grafs:
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Senator Mark Warner, talking to MSNBC about the “military plans” leak to Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Rachel, I didn’t think this administration could still shock me, but today’s story, which I read about in the Atlantic, was beyond belief. It was like, “Holy crap on steroids!” This is another example of carelessness, sloppiness and a crowd that’s not ready for prime time… My God, if this had been the Democrats, there would be investigations, there would be hearings. We’re gonna have this tomorrow!&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


This is the same Mark Warner who was Vice-Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee whose head of security, James A. Wolfe, was criminally convicted in 2018 of lying to the FBI about leaking the Carter Page FISA material to a pair of journalists. Warner didn’t invoke shock, crap or steroids in response to that leak, which led to stories calling a former Trump aide an “agent of a foreign power.” In fact, Warner wrote a letter to the judge in Wolfe’s case, Ketanji Brown Jackson, recommending leniency....&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this straight.<br />
The SAME PEOPLE who applauded enthusiastically when General Milley assured China&#8212;BEFOREHAND&#8212;that the US would NOT attack China regardless of what Trump decided to do or not to do; and the SAME PEOPLE who diligently leaked Israel&#8217;s potential plans to attack Iran in response to Iran&#8217;s (and friends&#8217;) bombardments of Israel, are NOW up in arms because the Trump administration, having informed the Houthis to desist or face pushback from the US, has &#8220;leaked&#8221; plans to attack the Houthis? </p>
<p>BTW, since when is there only ONE WAY to attack Houthis?<br />
&#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211;<br />
+ Related (Matt Taibbi)<br />
&#8220;Chatgate: Senator Mark Warner&#8217;s Shifting Stance on Leaks&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.racket.news/p/chatgate-senator-mark-warners-shifting" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.racket.news/p/chatgate-senator-mark-warners-shifting</a><br />
H/T Powerline blog.</p>
<p>Opening grafs:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Senator Mark Warner, talking to MSNBC about the “military plans” leak to Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Rachel, I didn’t think this administration could still shock me, but today’s story, which I read about in the Atlantic, was beyond belief. It was like, “Holy crap on steroids!” This is another example of carelessness, sloppiness and a crowd that’s not ready for prime time… My God, if this had been the Democrats, there would be investigations, there would be hearings. We’re gonna have this tomorrow!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the same Mark Warner who was Vice-Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee whose head of security, James A. Wolfe, was criminally convicted in 2018 of lying to the FBI about leaking the Carter Page FISA material to a pair of journalists. Warner didn’t invoke shock, crap or steroids in response to that leak, which led to stories calling a former Trump aide an “agent of a foreign power.” In fact, Warner wrote a letter to the judge in Wolfe’s case, Ketanji Brown Jackson, recommending leniency&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/26/open-thread-3-26-2025/#comment-2794648</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 04:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Bauxite:&lt;i&gt;My position is that leaking classified details of a surprise military operation is bad.&lt;/i&gt;

Had that happened it would indeed have been bad. But that did not happen. There were no &quot;details&quot;, and nothing was &quot;classified&quot;.

Those are lies you have to chosen to listen to, amplify, and spread here. They&#039;ve already been debunked.

That snippet you quoted shows very clearly that the mission had been planned for some time and that many people not in the meeting already knew about it. That&#039;s why I said what I did about Fantasy Island; I think that&#039;s where you&#039;re living, where an air strike is planned, prepared. and executed all in two hours at a word from Hesgeth&#039;s mouth.

When CENTCOM said it was ready, that meant ordnance was loaded, targets already selected and surveilled, pilots already briefed and ready to go, the planes to be used already running, etc. THOSE are the details. 

And all the people on the ground in all those different places who got everything ready, they were the ones in possession of the &quot;details&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bauxite:<i>My position is that leaking classified details of a surprise military operation is bad.</i></p>
<p>Had that happened it would indeed have been bad. But that did not happen. There were no &#8220;details&#8221;, and nothing was &#8220;classified&#8221;.</p>
<p>Those are lies you have to chosen to listen to, amplify, and spread here. They&#8217;ve already been debunked.</p>
<p>That snippet you quoted shows very clearly that the mission had been planned for some time and that many people not in the meeting already knew about it. That&#8217;s why I said what I did about Fantasy Island; I think that&#8217;s where you&#8217;re living, where an air strike is planned, prepared. and executed all in two hours at a word from Hesgeth&#8217;s mouth.</p>
<p>When CENTCOM said it was ready, that meant ordnance was loaded, targets already selected and surveilled, pilots already briefed and ready to go, the planes to be used already running, etc. THOSE are the details. </p>
<p>And all the people on the ground in all those different places who got everything ready, they were the ones in possession of the &#8220;details&#8221;.</p>
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		By: jwm		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/26/open-thread-3-26-2025/#comment-2794642</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 03:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Steve. Neither of those two rises above a generous &quot;4&quot; on the 1-10 scale.

JWM]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Steve. Neither of those two rises above a generous &#8220;4&#8221; on the 1-10 scale.</p>
<p>JWM</p>
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		By: SHIREHOME		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/26/open-thread-3-26-2025/#comment-2794640</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 02:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bauxite, I would. Doubt you would believe me though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bauxite, I would. Doubt you would believe me though.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/26/open-thread-3-26-2025/#comment-2794623</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 23:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That didn&#039;t take long. 
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/26/d-c-judge-assigned-to-signal-lawsuit-ruled-to-block-trumps-tda-deportations/
&lt;blockquote&gt;The judge assigned to a civil lawsuit regarding a Signal group chat among Trump cabinet members on Houthi strikes is the same judge who issued an order to block the administration’s deportation of suspected Tren de Aragua (TdA) gang members.

James Boasberg, the Obama-appointed chief judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, is assigned to the case that a group called American Oversight is bringing against five of the cabinet members, according to Politico’s Kyle Cheney.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would like to see their argument for standing.
And it looks like the Babylon Bee has given up satire for straight news reporting.
(h/t miguel cervantes)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That didn&#8217;t take long.<br />
<a href="https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/26/d-c-judge-assigned-to-signal-lawsuit-ruled-to-block-trumps-tda-deportations/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/26/d-c-judge-assigned-to-signal-lawsuit-ruled-to-block-trumps-tda-deportations/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The judge assigned to a civil lawsuit regarding a Signal group chat among Trump cabinet members on Houthi strikes is the same judge who issued an order to block the administration’s deportation of suspected Tren de Aragua (TdA) gang members.</p>
<p>James Boasberg, the Obama-appointed chief judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, is assigned to the case that a group called American Oversight is bringing against five of the cabinet members, according to Politico’s Kyle Cheney.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I would like to see their argument for standing.<br />
And it looks like the Babylon Bee has given up satire for straight news reporting.<br />
(h/t miguel cervantes)</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/26/open-thread-3-26-2025/#comment-2794612</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 23:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jazz hands handlers

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/26/details-revealed-inside-the-ccps-united-front-work-in-minnesota/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz hands handlers</p>
<p><a href="https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/26/details-revealed-inside-the-ccps-united-front-work-in-minnesota/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/26/details-revealed-inside-the-ccps-united-front-work-in-minnesota/</a></p>
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		By: art deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/26/open-thread-3-26-2025/#comment-2794608</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 22:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I don’t know what your day job is,&lt;/i&gt;
==
Perhaps he&#039;s Miles Taylor, the perpetual staff aide now employed as ???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t know what your day job is,</i><br />
==<br />
Perhaps he&#8217;s Miles Taylor, the perpetual staff aide now employed as ???</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/26/open-thread-3-26-2025/#comment-2794606</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 22:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://babylonbee.com/news/hegseth-kicking-himself-for-not-just-getting-13-soldiers-killed-and-giving-80-billion-in-weapons-to-terrorists]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/hegseth-kicking-himself-for-not-just-getting-13-soldiers-killed-and-giving-80-billion-in-weapons-to-terrorists" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/hegseth-kicking-himself-for-not-just-getting-13-soldiers-killed-and-giving-80-billion-in-weapons-to-terrorists</a></p>
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		By: art deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/26/open-thread-3-26-2025/#comment-2794602</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[art deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 22:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;But keep clicking refresh on the National Review website I’m sure they’ll give you some more milspeak to use.&lt;/i&gt;
==
One of Jeffrey Blehar&#039;s bits of wisdom a year and a half back was that Jack Smith had DJT &#039;dead to rights&#039; on unauthorized possession of classified documents.  Like Andrew McCarthy, he is a lapsed lawyer.  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But keep clicking refresh on the National Review website I’m sure they’ll give you some more milspeak to use.</i><br />
==<br />
One of Jeffrey Blehar&#8217;s bits of wisdom a year and a half back was that Jack Smith had DJT &#8216;dead to rights&#8217; on unauthorized possession of classified documents.  Like Andrew McCarthy, he is a lapsed lawyer.<br />
==</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/26/open-thread-3-26-2025/#comment-2794599</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some common sense vs the rest of the circus

https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1905007179905589655]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some common sense vs the rest of the circus</p>
<p><a href="https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1905007179905589655" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1905007179905589655</a></p>
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