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		By: Sailorcurt		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Could you explain the physical basis of gender?&quot;

There is none.  Gender is a feeling not a characteristic.]]></description>
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<p>There is none.  Gender is a feeling not a characteristic.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/24/the-political-gender-divide/#comment-2794445</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The political gender divide&quot;
I have no idea what gender is. It is not sex. Could you explain the physical basis of gender?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The political gender divide&#8221;<br />
I have no idea what gender is. It is not sex. Could you explain the physical basis of gender?</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/24/the-political-gender-divide/#comment-2794370</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apropos:

&lt;a href=&quot;https://rumble.com/v6r5ojg-that-is-why-he-won-top-10-memes.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;That is Why He Won: TOP 10 MEMES&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

From a Charlie Kirk clip: &quot;Young men want to be part of a political movement that doesn&#039;t hate them.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos:</p>
<p><a href="https://rumble.com/v6r5ojg-that-is-why-he-won-top-10-memes.html" rel="nofollow ugc"><b>That is Why He Won: TOP 10 MEMES</b></a></p>
<p>From a Charlie Kirk clip: &#8220;Young men want to be part of a political movement that doesn&#8217;t hate them.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/24/the-political-gender-divide/#comment-2794368</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 19:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Even now post-Trump, there are many in the GOP who desperately wish, for various reasons, that they could undo the New Deal. They can’t. If they take on the ghost of FDR head on, the ghost of FDR will crush them, because the voters still approve of the core of the New Deal.&lt;/i&gt;
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Define &#039;core&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Even now post-Trump, there are many in the GOP who desperately wish, for various reasons, that they could undo the New Deal. They can’t. If they take on the ghost of FDR head on, the ghost of FDR will crush them, because the voters still approve of the core of the New Deal.</i><br />
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Define &#8216;core&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/24/the-political-gender-divide/#comment-2794357</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 18:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sgt. Joe Friday

Right on.  Women, more than men, affluent more than less well-off, tend to feel, or instinctively expect, to be more protected from, the results of their opinions/beliefs/votes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sgt. Joe Friday</p>
<p>Right on.  Women, more than men, affluent more than less well-off, tend to feel, or instinctively expect, to be more protected from, the results of their opinions/beliefs/votes.</p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/24/the-political-gender-divide/#comment-2794335</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 17:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After 50 years of steadily increasing indoctrination, I don&#039;t see how it is possible that young men still retain the need to be &quot;independent&quot;.  Do you remember what we had to do to get incompetent female teachers to stop force-feeding young boys into a prescribed chemical life? There was a period there during the late 80&#039;s,and early 90&#039;s when the first reaction of an incompetent female teacher who a young boy had challenged, would be to take him down to the school nurse who would call mommy and get him sent to a &quot;doctor&quot; for chemicals to make him &quot;milder&quot;.  It took a while to reduce that response to a level that was nearly invisible to the public. However, the following response was to diminish young boys publicly in every way imaginable. That was done through &quot;Psychology&quot;.  You want to see how prevalent Psychology has become in the teaching of teachers?  Go to the website of your favorite college, look up the Master in Education degree, and check on the required courses. We have just spent 40 years telling our young men how terrible they are-- the question is who is involved in getting them to reconsider?

The greater question is how will we get women of all ages to back away from their communist handlers--the &quot;feminists&quot; who think that women should rule the world. If women are single and have a nice job, they will blindly obey the local women who got them to that point, and those &quot;handlers&quot; are true communists well trained in indoctrination techniques.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After 50 years of steadily increasing indoctrination, I don&#8217;t see how it is possible that young men still retain the need to be &#8220;independent&#8221;.  Do you remember what we had to do to get incompetent female teachers to stop force-feeding young boys into a prescribed chemical life? There was a period there during the late 80&#8217;s,and early 90&#8217;s when the first reaction of an incompetent female teacher who a young boy had challenged, would be to take him down to the school nurse who would call mommy and get him sent to a &#8220;doctor&#8221; for chemicals to make him &#8220;milder&#8221;.  It took a while to reduce that response to a level that was nearly invisible to the public. However, the following response was to diminish young boys publicly in every way imaginable. That was done through &#8220;Psychology&#8221;.  You want to see how prevalent Psychology has become in the teaching of teachers?  Go to the website of your favorite college, look up the Master in Education degree, and check on the required courses. We have just spent 40 years telling our young men how terrible they are&#8211; the question is who is involved in getting them to reconsider?</p>
<p>The greater question is how will we get women of all ages to back away from their communist handlers&#8211;the &#8220;feminists&#8221; who think that women should rule the world. If women are single and have a nice job, they will blindly obey the local women who got them to that point, and those &#8220;handlers&#8221; are true communists well trained in indoctrination techniques.</p>
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		By: HC68		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 16:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I believe that’s part of the source of this disparity. Fewer and fewer young people are entering into stable relationships. Young women are told to pursue their career and put off family relationships until later, if at all. And since most marriages these days end in divorce, even the ones who do pursue a family, end up single for protracted periods of their lives. As a result, more and more young women don’t have that stable family relationship from which to garner their sense of safety and security, so they turn toward the government to “take care” of them.

Young men are more driven by the desire for independence, competition and risk-taking than by safety and security. They don’t need or want the government to take care of them. They want the government to leave them the hell alone. Add that to the fact that the left has been telling them that their entire personality and sense of self is “toxic” their whole lives and I’d be shocked if young men weren’t increasingly leaning toward the party of Trump and Musk.&quot; -- Sailorcurt

I agree with a lot of this, and the other stuff from Sailorcurt&#039;s post that I did not quote.  I esp. agree that married women are more likely to be conservative politically than single.  Whether that is cause or result or both is debatable, I would say probably both.

Though it should be noted that a majority of first marriages _do_ last for life.  The majority of all marriages ending in divorce is only true if you count in second, third, and nth- marriages, which are statistically more likely to fail than first marriages.

A substantial chunk of the total divorce rate is &#039;repeat business&#039;.

An important point too is that _men_ get more cautious and conservative when they get married and esp. when they become fathers.  A family man can not and _should not_ have as high a risk tolerance as a single man.  Men also get more cautious as they get older (or they generally do if they have any sense).  A risk that might be reasonable at 30 may not be at 50, when you&#039;re closer to retirement and have more to lose, and less time to recover from a mistake.

Which leads into a danger here for the GOP and Trump and Musk, and it&#039;s a major one, because this statement is only conditionally true:  _Young men are more driven by the desire for independence, competition and risk-taking than by safety and security. They don’t need or want the government to take care of them. They want the government to leave them the hell alone._

Yes, males are less security-driven than women on average...but it&#039;s a difference of _degree_ .  Males still worry about their old age, about getting sick, about losing their jobs.  They have a _higher_ risk tolerance than women on average, but not a limitless one.  This drives much of the &#039;gender gap&#039;, and has for decades, but it&#039;s still a difference of degree.

This matters because the agenda of the libertarian right goes way, _way_ past the risk tolerance of most of _both_ sexes.  The weakening of the Demcratic media means that Musk and Trump can now safely go after Social Security fraud and Medicare fraud and so forth and not have it be presented to the country as &#039;cutting benefits&#039;.  Twenty years ago, even as much as they&#039;ve done would have been political suicide because the press would have presented it, almost without opposition, as benefit cuts.

But there&#039;s still effectively zero appetite among the voters for actual benefit cuts, for raising the retirement age, for privatization of Medicare.  There is no appetite to eliminate the minimum wage or phase out unemployment benefits.  You can adjust at the edges, but try to remove them entirely and you&#039;re politically _dead_ .

And males will be almost as adamant on that as females, because males get old too.  Males lose their jobs too.

Even now post-Trump, there are many in the GOP who desperately wish, for various reasons, that they could undo the New Deal.  They can&#039;t.  If they take on the ghost of FDR head on, the ghost of FDR will crush them, because the voters still approve of the core of the New Deal.

Think back a month or two:  Vivek Ramaswamy stepped into a hornet&#039;s nest with some comments about the need for immigrant workers and Musk seemed to go along with him, though he had to backtrack quickly, because the MAGA contingent exploded.  The rank and file of MAGA and the interests of Musk and Ramaswamy and their ilk have inherent fracture lines that could break the Trump coalition if strained.

It&#039;s a dangerous mistake to overlook the _male_ need for security, just because it&#039;s smaller than the female one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I believe that’s part of the source of this disparity. Fewer and fewer young people are entering into stable relationships. Young women are told to pursue their career and put off family relationships until later, if at all. And since most marriages these days end in divorce, even the ones who do pursue a family, end up single for protracted periods of their lives. As a result, more and more young women don’t have that stable family relationship from which to garner their sense of safety and security, so they turn toward the government to “take care” of them.</p>
<p>Young men are more driven by the desire for independence, competition and risk-taking than by safety and security. They don’t need or want the government to take care of them. They want the government to leave them the hell alone. Add that to the fact that the left has been telling them that their entire personality and sense of self is “toxic” their whole lives and I’d be shocked if young men weren’t increasingly leaning toward the party of Trump and Musk.&#8221; &#8212; Sailorcurt</p>
<p>I agree with a lot of this, and the other stuff from Sailorcurt&#8217;s post that I did not quote.  I esp. agree that married women are more likely to be conservative politically than single.  Whether that is cause or result or both is debatable, I would say probably both.</p>
<p>Though it should be noted that a majority of first marriages _do_ last for life.  The majority of all marriages ending in divorce is only true if you count in second, third, and nth- marriages, which are statistically more likely to fail than first marriages.</p>
<p>A substantial chunk of the total divorce rate is &#8216;repeat business&#8217;.</p>
<p>An important point too is that _men_ get more cautious and conservative when they get married and esp. when they become fathers.  A family man can not and _should not_ have as high a risk tolerance as a single man.  Men also get more cautious as they get older (or they generally do if they have any sense).  A risk that might be reasonable at 30 may not be at 50, when you&#8217;re closer to retirement and have more to lose, and less time to recover from a mistake.</p>
<p>Which leads into a danger here for the GOP and Trump and Musk, and it&#8217;s a major one, because this statement is only conditionally true:  _Young men are more driven by the desire for independence, competition and risk-taking than by safety and security. They don’t need or want the government to take care of them. They want the government to leave them the hell alone._</p>
<p>Yes, males are less security-driven than women on average&#8230;but it&#8217;s a difference of _degree_ .  Males still worry about their old age, about getting sick, about losing their jobs.  They have a _higher_ risk tolerance than women on average, but not a limitless one.  This drives much of the &#8216;gender gap&#8217;, and has for decades, but it&#8217;s still a difference of degree.</p>
<p>This matters because the agenda of the libertarian right goes way, _way_ past the risk tolerance of most of _both_ sexes.  The weakening of the Demcratic media means that Musk and Trump can now safely go after Social Security fraud and Medicare fraud and so forth and not have it be presented to the country as &#8216;cutting benefits&#8217;.  Twenty years ago, even as much as they&#8217;ve done would have been political suicide because the press would have presented it, almost without opposition, as benefit cuts.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s still effectively zero appetite among the voters for actual benefit cuts, for raising the retirement age, for privatization of Medicare.  There is no appetite to eliminate the minimum wage or phase out unemployment benefits.  You can adjust at the edges, but try to remove them entirely and you&#8217;re politically _dead_ .</p>
<p>And males will be almost as adamant on that as females, because males get old too.  Males lose their jobs too.</p>
<p>Even now post-Trump, there are many in the GOP who desperately wish, for various reasons, that they could undo the New Deal.  They can&#8217;t.  If they take on the ghost of FDR head on, the ghost of FDR will crush them, because the voters still approve of the core of the New Deal.</p>
<p>Think back a month or two:  Vivek Ramaswamy stepped into a hornet&#8217;s nest with some comments about the need for immigrant workers and Musk seemed to go along with him, though he had to backtrack quickly, because the MAGA contingent exploded.  The rank and file of MAGA and the interests of Musk and Ramaswamy and their ilk have inherent fracture lines that could break the Trump coalition if strained.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a dangerous mistake to overlook the _male_ need for security, just because it&#8217;s smaller than the female one.</p>
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		By: Sgt. Joe Friday		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My brother has a friend who&#039;s a divorced Asian American female. They were visiting with us, and she remarked how important diversity is to her. I thought (but did not say, because it was not the time or place for it) &quot;what kind of diversity do you mean? More people who look like me, and lots of interesting ethnic restaurants? Or do you mean Crips and Bloods and MS-13 diversity?&quot; I think we all know which she&#039;s in favor of.

She lives in an affluent bubble and works in one of the wealthiest cities in the country. When she votes, I am very sure that she does so with the expectation of never having to actually experience the consequences of her voting habits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother has a friend who&#8217;s a divorced Asian American female. They were visiting with us, and she remarked how important diversity is to her. I thought (but did not say, because it was not the time or place for it) &#8220;what kind of diversity do you mean? More people who look like me, and lots of interesting ethnic restaurants? Or do you mean Crips and Bloods and MS-13 diversity?&#8221; I think we all know which she&#8217;s in favor of.</p>
<p>She lives in an affluent bubble and works in one of the wealthiest cities in the country. When she votes, I am very sure that she does so with the expectation of never having to actually experience the consequences of her voting habits.</p>
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		By: Sailorcurt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with your proposed reasons and will add one of my own...although it&#039;s a multilayered one.

I&#039;m speaking in generalities here, so of course there are exceptions.  

Women, being the physically weaker (not an insult, just an observation of fact) and more emotionally driven sex, tend to need to feel safe and protected.

In my experience, women who are in stable, family relationships tend to be conservative.  They feel that they are safe and protected but they derive that safety and protection from their husband/family.

Even in my youth, the women who tended to be more liberal were single, divorced or widowed women who didn&#039;t have that sense of safety and security from family.  They tended to seek out other sources of safety and stability...primarily through &quot;the authorities&quot;...i.e Government.

I believe that&#039;s part of the source of this disparity.  Fewer and fewer young people are entering into stable relationships.  Young women are told to pursue their career and put off family relationships until later, if at all.  And since most marriages these days end in divorce, even the ones who do pursue a family, end up single for protracted periods of their lives.  As a result, more and more young women don&#039;t have that stable family relationship from which to garner their sense of safety and security, so they turn toward the government to &quot;take care&quot; of them.

Young men are more driven by the desire for independence, competition and risk-taking than by safety and security.  They don&#039;t need or want the government to take care of them.  They want the government to leave them the hell alone.  Add that to the fact that the left has been telling them that their entire personality and sense of self is &quot;toxic&quot; their whole lives and I&#039;d be shocked if young men weren&#039;t increasingly leaning toward the party of Trump and Musk.

You mentioned that this began as far back as the &#039;80&#039;s.

I graduated high school in 1982 and was thoroughly indoctrinated by the public schools of the time.  They weren&#039;t as bad as they are now of course, and I grew up in a rural, very conservative, very Christian community, so I imagine it was much worse in the cities even back then...but my education still leaned distinctly toward the left and I&#039;d been inculcated with feminist and socialist principles throughout.  It took many years of life experience to slowly wean me off those inconsistent and anti-human nature philosophies and mold me into the &quot;patriarchal&quot; &quot;misogynistic&quot; &quot;toxic&quot; masculine man that I am today.

The leftist indoctrination in public schools isn&#039;t a recent phenomenon...it&#039;s been gaining momentum and may have reached critical mass recently, but it started many generations ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your proposed reasons and will add one of my own&#8230;although it&#8217;s a multilayered one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m speaking in generalities here, so of course there are exceptions.  </p>
<p>Women, being the physically weaker (not an insult, just an observation of fact) and more emotionally driven sex, tend to need to feel safe and protected.</p>
<p>In my experience, women who are in stable, family relationships tend to be conservative.  They feel that they are safe and protected but they derive that safety and protection from their husband/family.</p>
<p>Even in my youth, the women who tended to be more liberal were single, divorced or widowed women who didn&#8217;t have that sense of safety and security from family.  They tended to seek out other sources of safety and stability&#8230;primarily through &#8220;the authorities&#8221;&#8230;i.e Government.</p>
<p>I believe that&#8217;s part of the source of this disparity.  Fewer and fewer young people are entering into stable relationships.  Young women are told to pursue their career and put off family relationships until later, if at all.  And since most marriages these days end in divorce, even the ones who do pursue a family, end up single for protracted periods of their lives.  As a result, more and more young women don&#8217;t have that stable family relationship from which to garner their sense of safety and security, so they turn toward the government to &#8220;take care&#8221; of them.</p>
<p>Young men are more driven by the desire for independence, competition and risk-taking than by safety and security.  They don&#8217;t need or want the government to take care of them.  They want the government to leave them the hell alone.  Add that to the fact that the left has been telling them that their entire personality and sense of self is &#8220;toxic&#8221; their whole lives and I&#8217;d be shocked if young men weren&#8217;t increasingly leaning toward the party of Trump and Musk.</p>
<p>You mentioned that this began as far back as the &#8217;80&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I graduated high school in 1982 and was thoroughly indoctrinated by the public schools of the time.  They weren&#8217;t as bad as they are now of course, and I grew up in a rural, very conservative, very Christian community, so I imagine it was much worse in the cities even back then&#8230;but my education still leaned distinctly toward the left and I&#8217;d been inculcated with feminist and socialist principles throughout.  It took many years of life experience to slowly wean me off those inconsistent and anti-human nature philosophies and mold me into the &#8220;patriarchal&#8221; &#8220;misogynistic&#8221; &#8220;toxic&#8221; masculine man that I am today.</p>
<p>The leftist indoctrination in public schools isn&#8217;t a recent phenomenon&#8230;it&#8217;s been gaining momentum and may have reached critical mass recently, but it started many generations ago.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[And there is an excellent reason to promote all this hysteria:
The Democratic Party’s need to provoke crisis after crisis after crisis…

https://instapundit.com/710328/

File under: Hysterical like a fox…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there is an excellent reason to promote all this hysteria:<br />
The Democratic Party’s need to provoke crisis after crisis after crisis…</p>
<p><a href="https://instapundit.com/710328/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://instapundit.com/710328/</a></p>
<p>File under: Hysterical like a fox…</p>
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