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		By: om		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jon baker:

You do understand the difference between statistics and inference?  Citing population  numbers is IMO foolish.  Why not cite population vs surface area or population vs habitable area?  You can get any bogus argument and claim the numbers back you up.  

Where is the threat to Australia likely to come from?  China, D.A., across that thing called the Pacific Ocean.  Why is Australia modernizing its submarines and going with nuclear US/British submarine technology at great expense?  Because they see the threat.  China did live fire exercises in the Tasman Sea, reported last week.  Clue for you, that is between Australia and New Zealand.  See cdrsalamander for some basics about the subject. 

China is making inroads in the South Pacific (Solomon Islands).That is called a line of communication; Australia is long, long way from their nearest ally, the US.  Do you know about  Guadalcanal or New Guinea, you know that last century military stuff?   That was when Australia was threatened by another rising power in Asia.  

Telling the Australians to man-up is particularlly stupid.  They have been threatened by the CCP in the COVID era and post COVID.  Don&#039;t insult your allies and assume they will forgive your ignorance.

IIRC the relationship between Australia and the US in military matters is stronger than that of the US and Great Britain.   Do you know that either?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon baker:</p>
<p>You do understand the difference between statistics and inference?  Citing population  numbers is IMO foolish.  Why not cite population vs surface area or population vs habitable area?  You can get any bogus argument and claim the numbers back you up.  </p>
<p>Where is the threat to Australia likely to come from?  China, D.A., across that thing called the Pacific Ocean.  Why is Australia modernizing its submarines and going with nuclear US/British submarine technology at great expense?  Because they see the threat.  China did live fire exercises in the Tasman Sea, reported last week.  Clue for you, that is between Australia and New Zealand.  See cdrsalamander for some basics about the subject. </p>
<p>China is making inroads in the South Pacific (Solomon Islands).That is called a line of communication; Australia is long, long way from their nearest ally, the US.  Do you know about  Guadalcanal or New Guinea, you know that last century military stuff?   That was when Australia was threatened by another rising power in Asia.  </p>
<p>Telling the Australians to man-up is particularlly stupid.  They have been threatened by the CCP in the COVID era and post COVID.  Don&#8217;t insult your allies and assume they will forgive your ignorance.</p>
<p>IIRC the relationship between Australia and the US in military matters is stronger than that of the US and Great Britain.   Do you know that either?</p>
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		By: Jon baker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2025 22:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Om, 
Australia has about 26.6 million people. 
A total military, active and reserve of 89,000

The US has about 330,000,000 million people.
Total active and reserve military ( not counting civilian DOD) of 2,100,000.

On a rough per capita basis, if Australia had the same population as the US at 330 million, it&#039;s military size extrapolated from its current size would only be about 1.1 Million men. Slightly more than half of the US military.
So yes. They need to man up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,<br />
Australia has about 26.6 million people.<br />
A total military, active and reserve of 89,000</p>
<p>The US has about 330,000,000 million people.<br />
Total active and reserve military ( not counting civilian DOD) of 2,100,000.</p>
<p>On a rough per capita basis, if Australia had the same population as the US at 330 million, it&#8217;s military size extrapolated from its current size would only be about 1.1 Million men. Slightly more than half of the US military.<br />
So yes. They need to man up.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2025 19:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The clintons were too busy handing 20% of the uranium stockpile to Russias russatom because that never goes wrong clinton panetta et al in their capacity in the cabinet]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The clintons were too busy handing 20% of the uranium stockpile to Russias russatom because that never goes wrong clinton panetta et al in their capacity in the cabinet</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2025 19:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At the core of the fraught issue of the U.S. relationship with Russia, China, Ukraine, et al is the simple fact that the majority of Democrats and the media have worked to harm those relationships over the years, as a way to deny success to their political rivals, and in some cases for actual monetary gain.

A simple example is President Barack Obama&#039;s abrupt pivot from mocking rival Mitt Romney for expressing distrust of Russia, to accusing rival Trump of being in league with Russia, using fake evidence concocted by the Hillary Clinton campaign and supplied to corrupt leaders in the FBI.

The American voters&#039; distrust of government is rooted in the corrupt abuse of power by Democrats in the last several decades.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the core of the fraught issue of the U.S. relationship with Russia, China, Ukraine, et al is the simple fact that the majority of Democrats and the media have worked to harm those relationships over the years, as a way to deny success to their political rivals, and in some cases for actual monetary gain.</p>
<p>A simple example is President Barack Obama&#8217;s abrupt pivot from mocking rival Mitt Romney for expressing distrust of Russia, to accusing rival Trump of being in league with Russia, using fake evidence concocted by the Hillary Clinton campaign and supplied to corrupt leaders in the FBI.</p>
<p>The American voters&#8217; distrust of government is rooted in the corrupt abuse of power by Democrats in the last several decades.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2025 14:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And just like that Putin tells President Trump what he thinks of the peace process.

&lt;b&gt;Russia Just Spit in Trump&#039;s Face, and It&#039;s Time They Reap the Whirldwind - Bonchie at RedState.com&lt;/b&gt;

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/03/08/russia-spit-in-donald-trumps-face-after-he-threatened-action-time-to-make-them-pay-n2186420

Yes Putin is worse than Emmanuel Goldstein.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just like that Putin tells President Trump what he thinks of the peace process.</p>
<p><b>Russia Just Spit in Trump&#8217;s Face, and It&#8217;s Time They Reap the Whirldwind &#8211; Bonchie at RedState.com</b></p>
<p><a href="https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/03/08/russia-spit-in-donald-trumps-face-after-he-threatened-action-time-to-make-them-pay-n2186420" rel="nofollow ugc">https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/03/08/russia-spit-in-donald-trumps-face-after-he-threatened-action-time-to-make-them-pay-n2186420</a></p>
<p>Yes Putin is worse than Emmanuel Goldstein.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2025 14:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jon baker:

Telling Austraila to &quot;man-up&quot; is one thing even President Trump would be sensitive enough not to say. 

There are other non-nuclear defense industry costs that are comming down the line based on the somewhat abrupt and ham-handed  policies (suspension of armaments and military intelligence data).  Nations that have bought US weapons systems will now be reconsidering if it is worth risking their own national defence with US kit; stuff that can be denied or turned off on impulse by someone who boasts can end a war in 24 hours.  US weapons systems have been bought for NATO compatibility and interoperability, just don&#039;t try to use them against The Russian Federation?  Remember the F-35 or the F-16, or the M-1A, or M-2 (Bradley)?  Nations must be thinking how reliable is the US as a supplier for these systems (hardware, software, parts, upgrades, maintenance)? 

The Australians entered into an agreement with the US and Great Britain to get nuclear submarines and nuclear submarine construction technology.  The French lost in that bid.  Billions of dollars, 20 years of work (?).  The Australians have already &quot;manned-up&quot; about that, but can they trust the US not to be foolish?  

Australian governments are elected by Australians, words matter, Jon baker.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon baker:</p>
<p>Telling Austraila to &#8220;man-up&#8221; is one thing even President Trump would be sensitive enough not to say. </p>
<p>There are other non-nuclear defense industry costs that are comming down the line based on the somewhat abrupt and ham-handed  policies (suspension of armaments and military intelligence data).  Nations that have bought US weapons systems will now be reconsidering if it is worth risking their own national defence with US kit; stuff that can be denied or turned off on impulse by someone who boasts can end a war in 24 hours.  US weapons systems have been bought for NATO compatibility and interoperability, just don&#8217;t try to use them against The Russian Federation?  Remember the F-35 or the F-16, or the M-1A, or M-2 (Bradley)?  Nations must be thinking how reliable is the US as a supplier for these systems (hardware, software, parts, upgrades, maintenance)? </p>
<p>The Australians entered into an agreement with the US and Great Britain to get nuclear submarines and nuclear submarine construction technology.  The French lost in that bid.  Billions of dollars, 20 years of work (?).  The Australians have already &#8220;manned-up&#8221; about that, but can they trust the US not to be foolish?  </p>
<p>Australian governments are elected by Australians, words matter, Jon baker.</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2025 08:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;”Why should the US continue defending nations that will not develop their OWN militaries to match the growing Chinese military?”&lt;/i&gt;

Because the world that will exist in the absence of American defense will be a horrific bloody mess that will kill Americans by the shipload.  Here, at home, in America.

And those countries *are* developing their own militaries to face the Chinese threat, but China is a technologically advanced country of 1.4 billion people and has by far the largest military on Earth.  Only America has the size and technology to hold them back.  Both size and technology are needed now.  Neither one nor the other will work alone.

In the absence of American military might every country in the world with either the technology or the cash to acquire nuclear weapons will do so.  Do you really believe that once World War III starts and the nukes start flying we’ll be able to sit it out here in America all safe and sound?

That’s preposterous.  We couldn’t sit out the War on Terror without being attacked.  We couldn’t sit out World War II without being attacked.  We couldn’t even sit out World War I.  When the nukes start flying, we &lt;b&gt;will&lt;/b&gt; be attacked.

Russia is genociding the Ukraine.  The people of Eastern Europe have already lived through the Holodomor and Soviet occupation.  They will not give Russia another chance.

Think I’m being hyperbolic?  Zelensky has already publicly stated that one of three things will happen: 1) The United States will sign a security guarantee with tens of thousands of boots on the ground.  2) Ukraine will join NATO complete with Article V obligations on the rest of the alliance.  or 3) Ukraine will acquire nuclear weapons.

Which will it be?  Trump has already ruled out door numbers 1 and 2, so it looks like door number 3 is it.  Ukraine will acquire nuclear weapons.  Do you really believe *America* will be safer if Russia and Ukraine fight a nuclear war?

And it won’t be just Ukraine.  Previously I said it will also be Poland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan, probably along with Denmark, Canada, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and possibly Qatar.

Well, today the next shoe dropped.  Polish prime minister Tusk has said that Poland is pursuing nuclear weapons and other advanced weapons.  “Poland must pursue the most advanced capabilities, including nuclear and modern unconventional weapons,” Tusk told the Polish parliament.  Poland won’t be the last on my list to do so.

Is *America* safer with every Tom, Dick, and Harry in the world armed with nuclear weapons?  Can you really not see how such a situation could go horribly, horribly wrong?  Or is devotion to your messiah blinding you to the obvious?

In six short weeks Trump has destabilized the world more than any person since Nikita Krushchev.  I didn’t believe the Democrats when they said Trump would start World War III.  Unless Trump does an abrupt about-face, they have a good chance of being right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>”Why should the US continue defending nations that will not develop their OWN militaries to match the growing Chinese military?”</i></p>
<p>Because the world that will exist in the absence of American defense will be a horrific bloody mess that will kill Americans by the shipload.  Here, at home, in America.</p>
<p>And those countries *are* developing their own militaries to face the Chinese threat, but China is a technologically advanced country of 1.4 billion people and has by far the largest military on Earth.  Only America has the size and technology to hold them back.  Both size and technology are needed now.  Neither one nor the other will work alone.</p>
<p>In the absence of American military might every country in the world with either the technology or the cash to acquire nuclear weapons will do so.  Do you really believe that once World War III starts and the nukes start flying we’ll be able to sit it out here in America all safe and sound?</p>
<p>That’s preposterous.  We couldn’t sit out the War on Terror without being attacked.  We couldn’t sit out World War II without being attacked.  We couldn’t even sit out World War I.  When the nukes start flying, we <b>will</b> be attacked.</p>
<p>Russia is genociding the Ukraine.  The people of Eastern Europe have already lived through the Holodomor and Soviet occupation.  They will not give Russia another chance.</p>
<p>Think I’m being hyperbolic?  Zelensky has already publicly stated that one of three things will happen: 1) The United States will sign a security guarantee with tens of thousands of boots on the ground.  2) Ukraine will join NATO complete with Article V obligations on the rest of the alliance.  or 3) Ukraine will acquire nuclear weapons.</p>
<p>Which will it be?  Trump has already ruled out door numbers 1 and 2, so it looks like door number 3 is it.  Ukraine will acquire nuclear weapons.  Do you really believe *America* will be safer if Russia and Ukraine fight a nuclear war?</p>
<p>And it won’t be just Ukraine.  Previously I said it will also be Poland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan, probably along with Denmark, Canada, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and possibly Qatar.</p>
<p>Well, today the next shoe dropped.  Polish prime minister Tusk has said that Poland is pursuing nuclear weapons and other advanced weapons.  “Poland must pursue the most advanced capabilities, including nuclear and modern unconventional weapons,” Tusk told the Polish parliament.  Poland won’t be the last on my list to do so.</p>
<p>Is *America* safer with every Tom, Dick, and Harry in the world armed with nuclear weapons?  Can you really not see how such a situation could go horribly, horribly wrong?  Or is devotion to your messiah blinding you to the obvious?</p>
<p>In six short weeks Trump has destabilized the world more than any person since Nikita Krushchev.  I didn’t believe the Democrats when they said Trump would start World War III.  Unless Trump does an abrupt about-face, they have a good chance of being right.</p>
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		By: Jon baker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2025 07:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mkent,
Why should the US continue defending nations that will not develop their OWN  militaries to match the growing Chinese military?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mkent,<br />
Why should the US continue defending nations that will not develop their OWN  militaries to match the growing Chinese military?</p>
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		By: Jon baker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2025 07:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well mkent, the beauty of any kind of talk about the US stepping back from any previous defense agreement is that the other nations involved might just increase their own military development. WW2,has been over for almost 80 years. It&#039;s time for Japan, Australia, Philippines  and Western Europe to man up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well mkent, the beauty of any kind of talk about the US stepping back from any previous defense agreement is that the other nations involved might just increase their own military development. WW2,has been over for almost 80 years. It&#8217;s time for Japan, Australia, Philippines  and Western Europe to man up.</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, by the way, that idea of his to kick Canada out of NORAD is some first-class idiocy.  All of the forward operating bases from which jet fighters are launched to protect us from Russian and Chinese bombers coming over the pole (the most direct route) and most of the distant early warning radars detecting and tracking those bombers and also the ICBMs &lt;b&gt;are in Canada!&lt;/b&gt;  Kicking Canada out of NORAD does nothing but blind us to our biggest existential threat.

It also makes establishing a so-called Iron Dome over America nearly impossible.  Again, most of the radars and missiles for such a system would have to be in Canada for it to work.

[bangs head against the wall repeatedly]  If Trump really were in the pay of Russia, what would he be doing differently?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, by the way, that idea of his to kick Canada out of NORAD is some first-class idiocy.  All of the forward operating bases from which jet fighters are launched to protect us from Russian and Chinese bombers coming over the pole (the most direct route) and most of the distant early warning radars detecting and tracking those bombers and also the ICBMs <b>are in Canada!</b>  Kicking Canada out of NORAD does nothing but blind us to our biggest existential threat.</p>
<p>It also makes establishing a so-called Iron Dome over America nearly impossible.  Again, most of the radars and missiles for such a system would have to be in Canada for it to work.</p>
<p>[bangs head against the wall repeatedly]  If Trump really were in the pay of Russia, what would he be doing differently?</p>
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