Comments on: The American political divide

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Mon, 10 Mar 2025 03:17:53 +0000

@ Art Deco > “You would have to go back to 1940 if not earlier to find an era where a ‘conservative’ perspective was modal outside of the Southern United States.”

Agreed, and I should have made it more clear that I was speaking in that general sense, and using “moral majority” as a short-hand label, as I don’t know if there is any designation that encompasses the totality of the time where Christian morality was dominant, or at least professed in public despite private deviations from it, along with a conservative culture, especially in clothing and language (there have always been “underground” exceptions, but they were acknowledged to be underground).

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Sun, 09 Mar 2025 23:24:58 +0000

To be fair, the doctrinal purity shut-downs also ran in the opposite direction when there actually was a dominant conservative Moral Majority, which is what the Sixties Liberals (and their Leftist allies) fought against, sometimes with good reason.
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The Moral Majority existed from 1979 to 1989. They were ‘dominant’ only at the institution Mr. Falwell himself founded.
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There were, up until about 1966, disciplinary rules on campuses which inhibited sexual conduct between male and female students. There have been particular institutions where a certain perspective was dominant. You would have to go back to 1940 if not earlier to find an era where a ‘conservative’ perspective was modal outside of the Southern United States.

By: DeeJay26

DeeJay26 — Sun, 09 Mar 2025 22:09:37 +0000

This happened to me in the past few weeks. Someone I have been friends with since the late ’70s, whom I talk with maybe half a dozen times a year, contacted me. I know we disagree strongly on politics, but I am fine with completely ignoring politics, to chat about anything else. This time the person would not go for that, and seeing that I did not join in on the correct denunciations (I was trying to ignore/bypass), the person called me terrible names and said we had no basis for a friendship. It stung. I feel badly that the person seems to have so much darkness inside now that no aspect of the person’s interior life is not covered with it.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Sat, 08 Mar 2025 23:51:17 +0000

@ Ray – Totally agree that the Democrats are in a uniquely bad league, but there have been plenty of Republicans in the same game.

By: James Sisco

James Sisco — Sat, 08 Mar 2025 22:45:50 +0000

When the vast majority of the near reality environment, such as media and education, is dominated by the Left, and has been for over 40 years, people become that environment. Plus, part of the message has been, the right are evil.
It’s much easier to be of the Left. For all their talk of tolerance, compassion, etc., it doesn’t seem to apply when it comes to certain relationships.

By: Ray Van Dune

Ray Van Dune — Sat, 08 Mar 2025 20:24:22 +0000

AesopFan: “… caused by the Democrats AND Republicans over the last (name your number) years.”

Sorry, I don’t do “bothsidism” on this one. Republicans are obviously far from perfect, but the Dems are in a league of their own when it comes to perfidy, from moral to legal.

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Sat, 08 Mar 2025 20:13:39 +0000

@ Ray > “upset that others actually HAD views!”

I’ve seen a lot of memes on that one!

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Sat, 08 Mar 2025 20:00:39 +0000

@ MrsX > “What a burden outrage is.”

That’s one of the rationales for Christ’s admonition to forgive “seventy times seven,” although I have to admit I’m having trouble with that one, given the extent of fraud, lies, and damage that have been caused by the Democrats AND Republicans over the last (name your number) years.

By: Ray Van Dune

Ray Van Dune — Sat, 08 Mar 2025 19:59:08 +0000

I recall a fortunately casual acquaintance whom I realized was not only intolerant of others’ views, but was upset to learn that others actually HAD differing views!

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Sat, 08 Mar 2025 19:58:06 +0000

@ Gringo > “I was reminded of William F. Buckley’s crack that liberals say they want to hear alternate views, but are shocked when those alternate views are expressed.”

Indeed.
One of our sons had to break up a romantic relationship that was great on every level EXCEPT she felt free to express all of her political opinions, but was NOT interested in hearing his (guess the Parties).

I’m tending toward the theory that Democrats of the doctrinaire variety are subliminally aware that their ideology & policies can’t compete in fair and open discussions, so they just don’t talk about them, which means not talking about yours as well.

To be fair, the doctrinal purity shut-downs also ran in the opposite direction when there actually was a dominant conservative Moral Majority, which is what the Sixties Liberals (and their Leftist allies) fought against, sometimes with good reason.
However, as some of the Red Pilled Democrats have said (starting with Reagan?), “I did’t leave the Democat Party, the Democrat Party left me.”

Don’t you love all the Capital-Letter_Labels we can use now?