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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2025 19:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Entertaining for sure. 
Verve, panache, etc. 
(But what to do with all those hallucinations…?)

BTW, have you ever asked it, “Are you hallucinating?” Or maybe, “How do I know when you’re hallucinating?”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entertaining for sure.<br />
Verve, panache, etc.<br />
(But what to do with all those hallucinations…?)</p>
<p>BTW, have you ever asked it, “Are you hallucinating?” Or maybe, “How do I know when you’re hallucinating?”</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2025 19:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin:

Glad you appreciated Chat&#039;s contribution. It kills me how fast Chat churn out parodies or code in a matter of seconds. It&#039;s not perfect but I find it impressive.

The AI Twitter link is about using AI to plow through a raw dump of thousands of emails and transform it all into a searchable database, which is handy for those like Elon&#039;s DOGE boys. 

Which is why I&#039;m certain DOGE is using AI heavily to plow through all the Fed databases. They&#039;re not just SQL jockeys.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin:</p>
<p>Glad you appreciated Chat&#8217;s contribution. It kills me how fast Chat churn out parodies or code in a matter of seconds. It&#8217;s not perfect but I find it impressive.</p>
<p>The AI Twitter link is about using AI to plow through a raw dump of thousands of emails and transform it all into a searchable database, which is handy for those like Elon&#8217;s DOGE boys. </p>
<p>Which is why I&#8217;m certain DOGE is using AI heavily to plow through all the Fed databases. They&#8217;re not just SQL jockeys.</p>
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		By: DonS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2025 18:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;om on March 1, 2025 at 11:20 pm said:
The Gateway Pundit isn’t exactly top tier in credibility, IMO. Fool me once, shame on me ..

Of the three involved, who again had the bigger ego, and is the best statesman? Time will tell.&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t just Gateway Pundit, multiple sources are reporting that. And Zelensky appears to be a fool, he needs the US; we don&#039;t need him. 

Also he overstates the Russian threat. Russia failed to take Ukraine it isn&#039;t a conventional threat to NATO let alone the US.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>om on March 1, 2025 at 11:20 pm said:<br />
The Gateway Pundit isn’t exactly top tier in credibility, IMO. Fool me once, shame on me ..</p>
<p>Of the three involved, who again had the bigger ego, and is the best statesman? Time will tell.</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t just Gateway Pundit, multiple sources are reporting that. And Zelensky appears to be a fool, he needs the US; we don&#8217;t need him. </p>
<p>Also he overstates the Russian threat. Russia failed to take Ukraine it isn&#8217;t a conventional threat to NATO let alone the US.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2025 18:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Democrats and rinos who talked to Zelensky wanted to kill the peace process. They don&#039;t want Trump to score that win.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democrats and rinos who talked to Zelensky wanted to kill the peace process. They don&#8217;t want Trump to score that win.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/03/01/a-reminder-for-those-people-who-say-theyve-never-seen-anything-on-the-world-stage-like-what-happened-yesterday-with-zelensky-trump-and-vance/#comment-2790896</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2025 13:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Might this AI-speak be of use to anyone?
(I don’t understand it myself—whenever I see AI I turn tail…)

https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldBestCA/status/1896452980091789680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1896452980091789680%7Ctwgr%5E4592660fa58c8da52c735d5f757ea6dd05442c54%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&#038;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fblazingcatfur.ca%2F

H/T Blazingcarfur blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might this AI-speak be of use to anyone?<br />
(I don’t understand it myself—whenever I see AI I turn tail…)</p>
<p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldBestCA/status/1896452980091789680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1896452980091789680%7Ctwgr%5E4592660fa58c8da52c735d5f757ea6dd05442c54%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&#038;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fblazingcatfur.ca%2F" rel="nofollow ugc">https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldBestCA/status/1896452980091789680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1896452980091789680%7Ctwgr%5E4592660fa58c8da52c735d5f757ea6dd05442c54%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&#038;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fblazingcatfur.ca%2F</a></p>
<p>H/T Blazingcarfur blog.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2025 12:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for that, Huxley. 
(And pass along my thanks to yer clever pal…)

BTW, was it Khrushchev who gifted the Crimea to Ukraine? Or was it Stalin?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that, Huxley.<br />
(And pass along my thanks to yer clever pal…)</p>
<p>BTW, was it Khrushchev who gifted the Crimea to Ukraine? Or was it Stalin?</p>
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		By: Sennacherib		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2025 11:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,
I wasn&#039;t aware of his reconstruction efforts, thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,<br />
I wasn&#8217;t aware of his reconstruction efforts, thank you.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2025 01:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was brainstorming with Chat about an imaginary interview explaining how Khrushchev got nicknamed &quot;The Shoe.&quot; But give Chat an excuse to get creative and Chat lunges at the chance.
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Imagining a Khrushchev Interview in Retirement (1968)&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;b&gt;INTERVIEWER:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;Comrade Khrushchev, do you regret your leadership decisions?&quot;

&lt;b&gt;KHRUSHCHEV  (laughs):&lt;/b&gt; &quot;Which ones? The ones that kept me alive? The ones that kept you alive? Or the ones that got me kicked out?&quot;

&lt;b&gt;INTERVIEWER:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;Let’s start with Cuba. You nearly brought the world to war.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;KHRUSHCHEV:&lt;/b&gt;  &quot;Nearly, yes. But did I? No! You think Stalin would have backed down? The Americans were sweating. Kennedy was sweating. But in the end, we made a deal. I gave them my missiles in Cuba, and they took theirs out of Turkey. The whole world thought I lost, but I got what I wanted.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;INTERVIEWER:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;And what was that?&quot;

&lt;b&gt;KHRUSHCHEV:&lt;/b&gt;  &quot;To live. And to make sure everyone else lived, too.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;INTERVIEWER:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;Some say you betrayed Stalin’s legacy.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;KHRUSHCHEV:&lt;/b&gt;  (stares for a moment, then chuckles) &quot;Stalin’s legacy? Stalin’s legacy was fear. A man couldn’t open his mouth without wondering if the NKVD would knock at his door at night. I buried Stalin. You should be thanking me.&quot; 

&lt;b&gt;INTERVIEWER:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;And yet, you were known as ‘The Butcher of Ukraine.’&quot;

&lt;b&gt;KHRUSHCHEV:&lt;/b&gt;  (sighs, rubs forehead) &quot;Yes, yes. That was my job. You don’t say ‘no’ to Stalin. But tell me, do they call Brezhnev ‘The Butcher of Hungary’? Do they call Kennedy ‘The Butcher of Vietnam’? No? Ah, history is funny that way.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;INTERVIEWER:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;Do you miss power?&quot;

&lt;b&gt;KHRUSHCHEV:&lt;/b&gt;  &quot;Do I miss the weight of a million problems on my back? No. But do I miss telling those bureaucrats to go to hell? Yes. Very much.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;INTERVIEWER:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;If you had to summarize your time in office, how would you do it?&quot;

&lt;b&gt;KHRUSHCHEV:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;I took the Soviet Union to the edge of a cliff. And when I looked over, I decided we should take a step back.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was brainstorming with Chat about an imaginary interview explaining how Khrushchev got nicknamed &#8220;The Shoe.&#8221; But give Chat an excuse to get creative and Chat lunges at the chance.<br />
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<p><i><b>Imagining a Khrushchev Interview in Retirement (1968)</b></p>
<p><b>INTERVIEWER:</b> &#8220;Comrade Khrushchev, do you regret your leadership decisions?&#8221;</p>
<p><b>KHRUSHCHEV  (laughs):</b> &#8220;Which ones? The ones that kept me alive? The ones that kept you alive? Or the ones that got me kicked out?&#8221;</p>
<p><b>INTERVIEWER:</b> &#8220;Let’s start with Cuba. You nearly brought the world to war.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>KHRUSHCHEV:</b>  &#8220;Nearly, yes. But did I? No! You think Stalin would have backed down? The Americans were sweating. Kennedy was sweating. But in the end, we made a deal. I gave them my missiles in Cuba, and they took theirs out of Turkey. The whole world thought I lost, but I got what I wanted.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>INTERVIEWER:</b> &#8220;And what was that?&#8221;</p>
<p><b>KHRUSHCHEV:</b>  &#8220;To live. And to make sure everyone else lived, too.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>INTERVIEWER:</b> &#8220;Some say you betrayed Stalin’s legacy.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>KHRUSHCHEV:</b>  (stares for a moment, then chuckles) &#8220;Stalin’s legacy? Stalin’s legacy was fear. A man couldn’t open his mouth without wondering if the NKVD would knock at his door at night. I buried Stalin. You should be thanking me.&#8221; </p>
<p><b>INTERVIEWER:</b> &#8220;And yet, you were known as ‘The Butcher of Ukraine.’&#8221;</p>
<p><b>KHRUSHCHEV:</b>  (sighs, rubs forehead) &#8220;Yes, yes. That was my job. You don’t say ‘no’ to Stalin. But tell me, do they call Brezhnev ‘The Butcher of Hungary’? Do they call Kennedy ‘The Butcher of Vietnam’? No? Ah, history is funny that way.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>INTERVIEWER:</b> &#8220;Do you miss power?&#8221;</p>
<p><b>KHRUSHCHEV:</b>  &#8220;Do I miss the weight of a million problems on my back? No. But do I miss telling those bureaucrats to go to hell? Yes. Very much.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>INTERVIEWER:</b> &#8220;If you had to summarize your time in office, how would you do it?&#8221;</p>
<p><b>KHRUSHCHEV:</b> &#8220;I took the Soviet Union to the edge of a cliff. And when I looked over, I decided we should take a step back.&#8221;</i></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sennacherib:

Khrushchev had an interesting history.  For one thing, he was &lt;i&gt;literally&lt;/i&gt; Ukraine-adjacent. From &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikita_Khrushchev&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;his Wiki page&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Khrushchev was born on 15 April 1894, in Kalinovka, a village in what is now Russia&#039;s Kursk Oblast (then Kursk Governorate), near the present Ukrainian border.[ His parents, Sergei Khrushchev and Kseniya Khrushcheva, were poor Russian peasants, and had a daughter two years Nikita&#039;s junior, Irina.Sergei Khrushchev was employed in a number of positions in the Donbas area of far eastern Ukraine, working as a railwayman, as a miner, and laboring in a brick factory. Wages were much higher in the Donbas than in the Kursk region, and Sergei Khrushchev generally left his family in Kalinovka, returning when he had enough money. When Nikita was six or seven, the family moved to Yuzovka (now Donetsk, Ukraine) for about a year before returning to Kalinovka.

Kalinovka was a peasant village; Khrushchev&#039;s teacher, Lydia Shevchenko, later stated that she had never seen a village as poor. Nikita worked as a herdsboy from an early age. ...

In 1908, Sergei Khrushchev moved to the Donbas city of Yuzovka; fourteen-year-old Nikita followed later that year, while Kseniya Khrushcheva and her daughter came after. Yuzovka, which was renamed Stalino in 1924 and Donetsk in 1961, was at the heart of one of the most industrialized areas of the Russian Empire. After working briefly in other fields, Khrushchev&#039;s parents found Nikita a place as a metal fitter&#039;s apprentice. Upon completing that apprenticeship, the teenage Khrushchev was hired by a factory. He lost that job when he collected money for the families of the victims of the Lena Goldfields massacre, and was hired to mend underground equipment by a mine in nearby Ruchenkovo, where his father was the union organizer, and he helped distribute copies and organize public readings of Pravda. He later stated that he considered emigrating to the United States for better wages, but did not do so. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Khrushchev later did a lot of Stalin&#039;s dirty work in Ukraine.

About WWII:

&lt;blockquote&gt;When Soviet troops, pursuant to the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, invaded the eastern portion of Poland on 17 September 1939, Khrushchev accompanied the troops at Stalin&#039;s direction. A large number of ethnic Ukrainians lived in the invaded area, much of which today forms the western portion of Ukraine. Many inhabitants initially welcomed the invasion, though they hoped that they would eventually become independent. Khrushchev&#039;s role was to ensure that the occupied areas voted for union with the USSR.  ...

As the Germans advanced, Khrushchev worked with the military to defend and save Kiev. Handicapped by orders from Stalin that under no circumstances should the city be abandoned, the Red Army was soon encircled by the Germans. While the Germans stated they took 655,000 prisoners, according to the Soviets, 150,541 men out of 677,085 escaped.[58] Primary sources differ on Khrushchev&#039;s involvement. According to Marshal Georgy Zhukov, writing some years after Khrushchev fired and disgraced him in 1957, Khrushchev persuaded Stalin not to evacuate troops from Kiev. However, Khrushchev noted in his memoirs that he and Marshal Semyon Budyonny proposed redeploying Soviet forces to avoid the encirclement until Marshal Semyon Timoshenko arrived from Moscow with orders for the troops to hold their positions. Early Khrushchev biographer Mark Frankland suggested that Khrushchev&#039;s faith in his leader was first shaken by the Red Army&#039;s setbacks. ...

In 1942, Khrushchev was on the Southwest Front, and he and Timoshenko proposed a massive counteroffensive in the Kharkov area. Stalin approved only part of the plan, but 640,000 Red Army soldiers were involved in the offensive. The Germans, however, had deduced that the Soviets were likely to attack at Kharkov, and set a trap. Beginning on 12 May 1942, the Soviet offensive initially appeared successful, but within five days the Germans had driven deep into the Soviet flanks, and the Red Army troops were in danger of being cut off. Stalin refused to halt the offensive, and the Red Army divisions were soon encircled by the Germans. The USSR lost about 267,000 soldiers, including more than 200,000 captured, and Stalin demoted Timoshenko and recalled Khrushchev to Moscow. While Stalin hinted at arresting and executing Khrushchev, he allowed the commissar to return to the front by sending him to Stalingrad.

Khrushchev reached the Stalingrad Front in August 1942, soon after the start of the battle for the city. His role in the Stalingrad defense was not major—General Vasily Chuikov, who led the city&#039;s defense, mentions Khrushchev only briefly in a memoir published while Khrushchev was premier—but to the end of his life, he was proud of his role. Though he visited Stalin in Moscow on occasion, he remained in Stalingrad for much of the battle and was nearly killed at least once. He proposed a counterattack, only to find that Georgy Zhukov and other generals had already planned Operation Uranus, a plan to break out from Soviet positions and encircle and destroy the Germans; it was being kept secret. Before Uranus was launched, Khrushchev spent much time checking on troop readiness and morale, interrogating Nazi prisoners, and recruiting some for propaganda purposes. ...

After Uranus forced the Germans into retreat, Khrushchev served on other fronts of the war. He was attached to Soviet troops at the Battle of Kursk, in July 1943, which turned back the last major German offensive on Soviet soil. Khrushchev related that he interrogated an SS defector, learning that the Germans intended an attack—a claim dismissed by his biographer Taubman as &quot;almost certainly exaggerated&quot;.[71] He accompanied Soviet troops as they took Kiev in November 1943, entering the shattered city as Soviet forces drove out German troops. As Soviet forces met with greater success, driving the Nazis westwards towards Germany, Nikita Khrushchev became increasingly involved in reconstruction work in Ukraine. He was appointed Premier of the Ukrainian SSR in addition to his earlier party post, one of the rare instances in which the Ukrainian party and civil leader posts were held by one person.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He helped Ukraine rebuild after the war.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sennacherib:</p>
<p>Khrushchev had an interesting history.  For one thing, he was <i>literally</i> Ukraine-adjacent. From <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikita_Khrushchev" rel="nofollow ugc">his Wiki page</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Khrushchev was born on 15 April 1894, in Kalinovka, a village in what is now Russia&#8217;s Kursk Oblast (then Kursk Governorate), near the present Ukrainian border.[ His parents, Sergei Khrushchev and Kseniya Khrushcheva, were poor Russian peasants, and had a daughter two years Nikita&#8217;s junior, Irina.Sergei Khrushchev was employed in a number of positions in the Donbas area of far eastern Ukraine, working as a railwayman, as a miner, and laboring in a brick factory. Wages were much higher in the Donbas than in the Kursk region, and Sergei Khrushchev generally left his family in Kalinovka, returning when he had enough money. When Nikita was six or seven, the family moved to Yuzovka (now Donetsk, Ukraine) for about a year before returning to Kalinovka.</p>
<p>Kalinovka was a peasant village; Khrushchev&#8217;s teacher, Lydia Shevchenko, later stated that she had never seen a village as poor. Nikita worked as a herdsboy from an early age. &#8230;</p>
<p>In 1908, Sergei Khrushchev moved to the Donbas city of Yuzovka; fourteen-year-old Nikita followed later that year, while Kseniya Khrushcheva and her daughter came after. Yuzovka, which was renamed Stalino in 1924 and Donetsk in 1961, was at the heart of one of the most industrialized areas of the Russian Empire. After working briefly in other fields, Khrushchev&#8217;s parents found Nikita a place as a metal fitter&#8217;s apprentice. Upon completing that apprenticeship, the teenage Khrushchev was hired by a factory. He lost that job when he collected money for the families of the victims of the Lena Goldfields massacre, and was hired to mend underground equipment by a mine in nearby Ruchenkovo, where his father was the union organizer, and he helped distribute copies and organize public readings of Pravda. He later stated that he considered emigrating to the United States for better wages, but did not do so. </p></blockquote>
<p>Khrushchev later did a lot of Stalin&#8217;s dirty work in Ukraine.</p>
<p>About WWII:</p>
<blockquote><p>When Soviet troops, pursuant to the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, invaded the eastern portion of Poland on 17 September 1939, Khrushchev accompanied the troops at Stalin&#8217;s direction. A large number of ethnic Ukrainians lived in the invaded area, much of which today forms the western portion of Ukraine. Many inhabitants initially welcomed the invasion, though they hoped that they would eventually become independent. Khrushchev&#8217;s role was to ensure that the occupied areas voted for union with the USSR.  &#8230;</p>
<p>As the Germans advanced, Khrushchev worked with the military to defend and save Kiev. Handicapped by orders from Stalin that under no circumstances should the city be abandoned, the Red Army was soon encircled by the Germans. While the Germans stated they took 655,000 prisoners, according to the Soviets, 150,541 men out of 677,085 escaped.[58] Primary sources differ on Khrushchev&#8217;s involvement. According to Marshal Georgy Zhukov, writing some years after Khrushchev fired and disgraced him in 1957, Khrushchev persuaded Stalin not to evacuate troops from Kiev. However, Khrushchev noted in his memoirs that he and Marshal Semyon Budyonny proposed redeploying Soviet forces to avoid the encirclement until Marshal Semyon Timoshenko arrived from Moscow with orders for the troops to hold their positions. Early Khrushchev biographer Mark Frankland suggested that Khrushchev&#8217;s faith in his leader was first shaken by the Red Army&#8217;s setbacks. &#8230;</p>
<p>In 1942, Khrushchev was on the Southwest Front, and he and Timoshenko proposed a massive counteroffensive in the Kharkov area. Stalin approved only part of the plan, but 640,000 Red Army soldiers were involved in the offensive. The Germans, however, had deduced that the Soviets were likely to attack at Kharkov, and set a trap. Beginning on 12 May 1942, the Soviet offensive initially appeared successful, but within five days the Germans had driven deep into the Soviet flanks, and the Red Army troops were in danger of being cut off. Stalin refused to halt the offensive, and the Red Army divisions were soon encircled by the Germans. The USSR lost about 267,000 soldiers, including more than 200,000 captured, and Stalin demoted Timoshenko and recalled Khrushchev to Moscow. While Stalin hinted at arresting and executing Khrushchev, he allowed the commissar to return to the front by sending him to Stalingrad.</p>
<p>Khrushchev reached the Stalingrad Front in August 1942, soon after the start of the battle for the city. His role in the Stalingrad defense was not major—General Vasily Chuikov, who led the city&#8217;s defense, mentions Khrushchev only briefly in a memoir published while Khrushchev was premier—but to the end of his life, he was proud of his role. Though he visited Stalin in Moscow on occasion, he remained in Stalingrad for much of the battle and was nearly killed at least once. He proposed a counterattack, only to find that Georgy Zhukov and other generals had already planned Operation Uranus, a plan to break out from Soviet positions and encircle and destroy the Germans; it was being kept secret. Before Uranus was launched, Khrushchev spent much time checking on troop readiness and morale, interrogating Nazi prisoners, and recruiting some for propaganda purposes. &#8230;</p>
<p>After Uranus forced the Germans into retreat, Khrushchev served on other fronts of the war. He was attached to Soviet troops at the Battle of Kursk, in July 1943, which turned back the last major German offensive on Soviet soil. Khrushchev related that he interrogated an SS defector, learning that the Germans intended an attack—a claim dismissed by his biographer Taubman as &#8220;almost certainly exaggerated&#8221;.[71] He accompanied Soviet troops as they took Kiev in November 1943, entering the shattered city as Soviet forces drove out German troops. As Soviet forces met with greater success, driving the Nazis westwards towards Germany, Nikita Khrushchev became increasingly involved in reconstruction work in Ukraine. He was appointed Premier of the Ukrainian SSR in addition to his earlier party post, one of the rare instances in which the Ukrainian party and civil leader posts were held by one person.</p></blockquote>
<p>He helped Ukraine rebuild after the war.</p>
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