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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Chuck  &#062; &quot;Good rant about about the audits and the resistance thereto: Educating the Stupid on How Audits Work In Real Life &quot;

It&#039;s Larry Correia at MHN (formerly MHI) so NSFW language abounds, even more than usual given the topic which is most certainly in his wheelhouse, but his observations are accurate IMO.
Most of the comments are great, giving a large amount of relevant anecdotal data on several facets of the DOGE tsunami.
Having been a business-based programmer and a teacher of same, I could relate to all of it, even the &quot;Why, yes, there are still a lot of COBOL programs out there.&quot;
I was on call in 1999 to fix some of them.
Best short comment from the link: 
&quot;The house is being cleaned. Yeah, some good and useful stuff is just going to be thrown out. But it’s a hoarder house.&quot;


Family quasi-auditing anecdote: I had to take care of preparing a house for sale after some of our kids moved out of it, while simultaneously taking care of my mom in her final illness in a near-by town, so I &quot;hired&quot; our son who was majoring in accounting to supervise the work.

We would figure out how many people/companies he was going to use each week, and I would give him signed checks to disburse, as that was before universal credit card hand-held machines. The first time he turned kind of white, so I asked him if that was okay.  
He replied, &quot;I know it&#039;s the only way to do this, so I&#039;m personally saying &quot;yes yes&quot; but the accountant in me is screaming &quot;NO! NO!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Chuck  &gt; &#8220;Good rant about about the audits and the resistance thereto: Educating the Stupid on How Audits Work In Real Life &#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Larry Correia at MHN (formerly MHI) so NSFW language abounds, even more than usual given the topic which is most certainly in his wheelhouse, but his observations are accurate IMO.<br />
Most of the comments are great, giving a large amount of relevant anecdotal data on several facets of the DOGE tsunami.<br />
Having been a business-based programmer and a teacher of same, I could relate to all of it, even the &#8220;Why, yes, there are still a lot of COBOL programs out there.&#8221;<br />
I was on call in 1999 to fix some of them.<br />
Best short comment from the link:<br />
&#8220;The house is being cleaned. Yeah, some good and useful stuff is just going to be thrown out. But it’s a hoarder house.&#8221;</p>
<p>Family quasi-auditing anecdote: I had to take care of preparing a house for sale after some of our kids moved out of it, while simultaneously taking care of my mom in her final illness in a near-by town, so I &#8220;hired&#8221; our son who was majoring in accounting to supervise the work.</p>
<p>We would figure out how many people/companies he was going to use each week, and I would give him signed checks to disburse, as that was before universal credit card hand-held machines. The first time he turned kind of white, so I asked him if that was okay.<br />
He replied, &#8220;I know it&#8217;s the only way to do this, so I&#8217;m personally saying &#8220;yes yes&#8221; but the accountant in me is screaming &#8220;NO! NO!&#8221;</p>
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		By: AppleBetty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Successful lift-off and booster catch.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Successful lift-off and booster catch.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kya9J7QQ3QE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kya9J7QQ3QE</a></p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We do recognize that there has been a domestic enemy worming its way through the government apple for 125 years, with the best results for them over the last 90 and then 15 years.  But in the final analysis, all of this decrepitude is due to a feckless Congress not performing proper oversight and not giving themselves the level of subpoena powers they need to force compliance* with public (and occasionally secure) disclosures.  

So the core question becomes why don&#039;t people of competence and integrity want to run for office and provide a (relatively short) period of public service? And so many who do run end up giving up or getting compromised into spending 50% of their time soliciting campaign contributions and 20% beyond that accepting lobbyists&#039; favors. Maybe public servants should not want it so badly?

Given we do in fact live in a complex technological world, that will and does require some level of regulation, I perceive part of the answer may lie in bringing more of the bureaucracy under the legislative branch, so potentially more accountable. 
We have been fed the story that maybe there is an 8%+/- issue involving waste and abuse, so it should be rooted out, but it is not big enough to be the &quot;major&quot; problem.   DOGE is showing that something greater than 8% is involved, but who knows how high that number is.

We have to believe that this type of disclosure and correction of fraud and waste will enhance the election of non RINO&#039;s and no Dems going forward. I doubt all that needs to be found and done and corrected can be accomplished in just 15 to 18 months, or even the next 4 years.

*If anyone has thoughts about how that might intrude on the Exec or Judicial branches, I welcome that discussion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do recognize that there has been a domestic enemy worming its way through the government apple for 125 years, with the best results for them over the last 90 and then 15 years.  But in the final analysis, all of this decrepitude is due to a feckless Congress not performing proper oversight and not giving themselves the level of subpoena powers they need to force compliance* with public (and occasionally secure) disclosures.  </p>
<p>So the core question becomes why don&#8217;t people of competence and integrity want to run for office and provide a (relatively short) period of public service? And so many who do run end up giving up or getting compromised into spending 50% of their time soliciting campaign contributions and 20% beyond that accepting lobbyists&#8217; favors. Maybe public servants should not want it so badly?</p>
<p>Given we do in fact live in a complex technological world, that will and does require some level of regulation, I perceive part of the answer may lie in bringing more of the bureaucracy under the legislative branch, so potentially more accountable.<br />
We have been fed the story that maybe there is an 8%+/- issue involving waste and abuse, so it should be rooted out, but it is not big enough to be the &#8220;major&#8221; problem.   DOGE is showing that something greater than 8% is involved, but who knows how high that number is.</p>
<p>We have to believe that this type of disclosure and correction of fraud and waste will enhance the election of non RINO&#8217;s and no Dems going forward. I doubt all that needs to be found and done and corrected can be accomplished in just 15 to 18 months, or even the next 4 years.</p>
<p>*If anyone has thoughts about how that might intrude on the Exec or Judicial branches, I welcome that discussion.</p>
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		By: Chuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good rant about about the audits and the resistance thereto: &lt;a href=&quot;https://monsterhunternation.com/2025/02/18/educating-the-stupid-on-how-audits-work-in-real-life/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Educating the Stupid on How Audits Work In Real Life&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good rant about about the audits and the resistance thereto: <a href="https://monsterhunternation.com/2025/02/18/educating-the-stupid-on-how-audits-work-in-real-life/" rel="nofollow ugc">Educating the Stupid on How Audits Work In Real Life</a></p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 04:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boobah:

And who is raising holy hell about it? It being the exposure of Federal Government malfeasence?  Is it a bipartisan outrage and unified demand that DOGE be stopped?  Are Republicans going to court with the Democrats?  Or just the usual, sh*t on your own because they weren&#039;t effective before?  

Pork barrel politics isn&#039;t a new thing.  The Administrative (independent) state just expected to keep growing and ursurping control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boobah:</p>
<p>And who is raising holy hell about it? It being the exposure of Federal Government malfeasence?  Is it a bipartisan outrage and unified demand that DOGE be stopped?  Are Republicans going to court with the Democrats?  Or just the usual, sh*t on your own because they weren&#8217;t effective before?  </p>
<p>Pork barrel politics isn&#8217;t a new thing.  The Administrative (independent) state just expected to keep growing and ursurping control.</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 03:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;”Yeah, we expect the Democrats to be pulling this stuff, but it’s obvious that important parts of the Republicans were in on it, too, and we expected better from them.”&lt;/i&gt;

The only Republican that has been in office since this was put into place is Donald Trump.  If you want to blame a Republican — and a lot of people do — blame him.  He’s the only one available.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>”Yeah, we expect the Democrats to be pulling this stuff, but it’s obvious that important parts of the Republicans were in on it, too, and we expected better from them.”</i></p>
<p>The only Republican that has been in office since this was put into place is Donald Trump.  If you want to blame a Republican — and a lot of people do — blame him.  He’s the only one available.</p>
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		By: Boobah		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 03:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@om

You might want to take a step back there.  I read 
&lt;blockquote&gt;That the Republican Party–supposedly the party of small gov’t–allowed this to go on with little to no resistance–is damnable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
as &quot;Yeah, we expect the Democrats to be pulling this stuff, but it&#039;s obvious that important parts of the Republicans were in on it, too, and we expected better from &lt;i&gt;them.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@om</p>
<p>You might want to take a step back there.  I read </p>
<blockquote><p>That the Republican Party–supposedly the party of small gov’t–allowed this to go on with little to no resistance–is damnable.</p></blockquote>
<p>as &#8220;Yeah, we expect the Democrats to be pulling this stuff, but it&#8217;s obvious that important parts of the Republicans were in on it, too, and we expected better from <i>them.</i></p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 02:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was it always like this or did something change like say during the Obama mal-administration. Tribunals come to mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it always like this or did something change like say during the Obama mal-administration. Tribunals come to mind.</p>
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		By: Liz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 00:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate - there is GASB - Government Accounting Standards Board.  https://gasb.org/
But, I think it is only for state and local governments.  Obviously, the US government doesn&#039;t follow these standards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate &#8211; there is GASB &#8211; Government Accounting Standards Board.  <a href="https://gasb.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://gasb.org/</a><br />
But, I think it is only for state and local governments.  Obviously, the US government doesn&#8217;t follow these standards.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill Serra:

Is there any other political party conceivablly involved? Was it the Libertarian Party or the Party of No Affiliation or the Socialist Party of &#039;murica?  What is that other political party Bill? An enigma, a true mystery.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Serra:</p>
<p>Is there any other political party conceivablly involved? Was it the Libertarian Party or the Party of No Affiliation or the Socialist Party of &#8216;murica?  What is that other political party Bill? An enigma, a true mystery.</p>
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