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		By: Karmi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo
&lt;blockquote&gt;..having to refresh the blog before new comments will show. I hope that other people aren’t having that happen, too. It’s new for me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That has been terrible for me. Seems it was sdferr who brought it up a day or two ago—which is when is also started for me. Even clicking on Recent Comment in that section wouldn&#039;t go to the comment...just to the top of post. Then scrolling down to last comment I would still have to do a refresh to get the recent comment.

Not as bad this morning but still issues...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo</p>
<blockquote><p>..having to refresh the blog before new comments will show. I hope that other people aren’t having that happen, too. It’s new for me.</p></blockquote>
<p>That has been terrible for me. Seems it was sdferr who brought it up a day or two ago—which is when is also started for me. Even clicking on Recent Comment in that section wouldn&#8217;t go to the comment&#8230;just to the top of post. Then scrolling down to last comment I would still have to do a refresh to get the recent comment.</p>
<p>Not as bad this morning but still issues&#8230;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 05:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Gringo &#062; &quot;Like Faulkner says, the past isn’t past.&quot;

But we must learn to be unburdened by what has been.
Whatever.

I never memorized &quot;Oh Captain&quot; but did appreciate its melancholic irony.

I DID memorize &quot;Nancy Hanks&quot; in 7th grade and rather liked it, since she died before he became famous and I could picture her, if she came back as a ghost and could speak, wanting to know.  
Now, I believe that those who have passed beyond the veil are perfectly well aware of what&#039;s going on down here, and some of them are appalled.
Washington and Lincoln for sure.

&quot;Surreal&quot; is the right description for Wakoski&#039;s poem, but it kinda grows on ya.
I do wonder about the giraffe.

Ogden Nash is my favorite  poet. 
(Doggerel is a sure-fire hook.)
Most likely from much-too-early exposure 
(and I still have my first book).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Gringo &gt; &#8220;Like Faulkner says, the past isn’t past.&#8221;</p>
<p>But we must learn to be unburdened by what has been.<br />
Whatever.</p>
<p>I never memorized &#8220;Oh Captain&#8221; but did appreciate its melancholic irony.</p>
<p>I DID memorize &#8220;Nancy Hanks&#8221; in 7th grade and rather liked it, since she died before he became famous and I could picture her, if she came back as a ghost and could speak, wanting to know.<br />
Now, I believe that those who have passed beyond the veil are perfectly well aware of what&#8217;s going on down here, and some of them are appalled.<br />
Washington and Lincoln for sure.</p>
<p>&#8220;Surreal&#8221; is the right description for Wakoski&#8217;s poem, but it kinda grows on ya.<br />
I do wonder about the giraffe.</p>
<p>Ogden Nash is my favorite  poet.<br />
(Doggerel is a sure-fire hook.)<br />
Most likely from much-too-early exposure<br />
(and I still have my first book).</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 05:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My sister recited Whitman&#039;s &quot;Oh Captain, My Captain&quot; at a Memorial Day ceremony that  was held on the lawn in front of the town hall.  When she was in 8th grade?  

The town hall was named for the family that paid for the construction of the building. That family&#039;s first ancestor in the town was a Revolutionary War hero, who was  mentioned in David McCullough&#039;s 1776. A family member was my Sunday School teacher in 4th grade. Another  family member recently did some work on a friend&#039;s 300 year old house. Like Faulkner says, the past isn&#039;t past.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister recited Whitman&#8217;s &#8220;Oh Captain, My Captain&#8221; at a Memorial Day ceremony that  was held on the lawn in front of the town hall.  When she was in 8th grade?  </p>
<p>The town hall was named for the family that paid for the construction of the building. That family&#8217;s first ancestor in the town was a Revolutionary War hero, who was  mentioned in David McCullough&#8217;s 1776. A family member was my Sunday School teacher in 4th grade. Another  family member recently did some work on a friend&#8217;s 300 year old house. Like Faulkner says, the past isn&#8217;t past.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 04:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[R2L:

Yes, I&#039;ve been on the phone with the host and they supposedly corrected that problem.  But they said it would take up to 2 hours for the correction to be fully functional.  So hopefully the problem will go away by about 12:30 AM Eastern time.

It&#039;s frustrating to keep having  these glitches. I keep thinking if it continues I should change hosts, but that&#039;s a big undertaking, and there&#039;s no guarantee there won&#039;t still be problems now and then.

I&#039;ve also been having a new problem on my phone, having to refresh the blog before new comments will show.  I hope that other people aren&#039;t having that happen, too.  It&#039;s new for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R2L:</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve been on the phone with the host and they supposedly corrected that problem.  But they said it would take up to 2 hours for the correction to be fully functional.  So hopefully the problem will go away by about 12:30 AM Eastern time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s frustrating to keep having  these glitches. I keep thinking if it continues I should change hosts, but that&#8217;s a big undertaking, and there&#8217;s no guarantee there won&#8217;t still be problems now and then.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been having a new problem on my phone, having to refresh the blog before new comments will show.  I hope that other people aren&#8217;t having that happen, too.  It&#8217;s new for me.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 04:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, FYI:
in trying to go to the next post on Margret Brennan, I am now receiving an error message as:
This site can’t provide a secure connection
thenewneo.com uses an unsupported protocol.

ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH
Unsupported protocol
The client and server don&#039;t support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite.

I had a different error a little while ago about too many redirects to get to your site.
Then a few minutes later it worked again.  
??????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, FYI:<br />
in trying to go to the next post on Margret Brennan, I am now receiving an error message as:<br />
This site can’t provide a secure connection<br />
thenewneo.com uses an unsupported protocol.</p>
<p>ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH<br />
Unsupported protocol<br />
The client and server don&#8217;t support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite.</p>
<p>I had a different error a little while ago about too many redirects to get to your site.<br />
Then a few minutes later it worked again.<br />
??????</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 02:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a surreal dream poem about George Washington. I&#039;ve always loved this poem.
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;George Washington&lt;/b&gt;
     
     Wearing a green silk dress
     I drove to California with a giraffe who looked like George
         Washington.
     The roads were long
     and covered with ivory boxes.
     We stopped at a filling station for gas and found that the next
     hundred miles of road would be dangerous.

     I left notes for you in every ivory box we passed.
     The gold clasps did not open
     properly.
     I wrote letters to you
     and fastened them with gold clasps.

     But my green dress wore out long before I reached California.
     The giraffe abandoned me at the first zoo.
     I kept calling INFORMATION and asking for George Washington,
     but his phone service had been shut off
     in Washington. New York. LA. and
     Palm Beach.

     &quot;We can connect you with the new president,&quot; said the operator.
     &quot;It won&#039;t do any good,&quot; I answered.
     &quot;I must reach George Washington. No one else will do.&quot;
     So I left more notes for you in the ivory boxes.
     I kept saying, &quot;Let me know where you are.&quot;
     I travelled all the roads in the country.
     I left notes everywhere.
     I sent you letters with gold catches unclasped.
     I telephoned every place I could think of.
     My giraffe left me after finding a zoo.
     My green silk dress wore out,
     I have no clothes.
     Please tell me
     what I am doing--riding over the same dangerous 100 miles
     everyday,
     leaving letters in ivory boxes.
     They all bear your name.
     Please tell me what I&#039;m doing?
     Why?
     Sometimes I do remember reading in the paper over 200 years ago
     that you died--I must know
     you&#039;re dead
     by now.
     Please tell me what I&#039;m doing,
     George Washington.
     Please tell me what I&#039;m doing,
     --for my own good.

--Diane Wakoski, &quot;The George Washington Poems&quot; (1967)&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a surreal dream poem about George Washington. I&#8217;ve always loved this poem.<br />
________________________________</p>
<p><i><b>George Washington</b></p>
<p>     Wearing a green silk dress<br />
     I drove to California with a giraffe who looked like George<br />
         Washington.<br />
     The roads were long<br />
     and covered with ivory boxes.<br />
     We stopped at a filling station for gas and found that the next<br />
     hundred miles of road would be dangerous.</p>
<p>     I left notes for you in every ivory box we passed.<br />
     The gold clasps did not open<br />
     properly.<br />
     I wrote letters to you<br />
     and fastened them with gold clasps.</p>
<p>     But my green dress wore out long before I reached California.<br />
     The giraffe abandoned me at the first zoo.<br />
     I kept calling INFORMATION and asking for George Washington,<br />
     but his phone service had been shut off<br />
     in Washington. New York. LA. and<br />
     Palm Beach.</p>
<p>     &#8220;We can connect you with the new president,&#8221; said the operator.<br />
     &#8220;It won&#8217;t do any good,&#8221; I answered.<br />
     &#8220;I must reach George Washington. No one else will do.&#8221;<br />
     So I left more notes for you in the ivory boxes.<br />
     I kept saying, &#8220;Let me know where you are.&#8221;<br />
     I travelled all the roads in the country.<br />
     I left notes everywhere.<br />
     I sent you letters with gold catches unclasped.<br />
     I telephoned every place I could think of.<br />
     My giraffe left me after finding a zoo.<br />
     My green silk dress wore out,<br />
     I have no clothes.<br />
     Please tell me<br />
     what I am doing&#8211;riding over the same dangerous 100 miles<br />
     everyday,<br />
     leaving letters in ivory boxes.<br />
     They all bear your name.<br />
     Please tell me what I&#8217;m doing?<br />
     Why?<br />
     Sometimes I do remember reading in the paper over 200 years ago<br />
     that you died&#8211;I must know<br />
     you&#8217;re dead<br />
     by now.<br />
     Please tell me what I&#8217;m doing,<br />
     George Washington.<br />
     Please tell me what I&#8217;m doing,<br />
     &#8211;for my own good.</p>
<p>&#8211;Diane Wakoski, &#8220;The George Washington Poems&#8221; (1967)</i></p>
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		By: MollyG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 01:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Oh Captain, My Captain&quot; is certainly a much better poem than the one I am about to share, but it does recall this sort of doggerel:

&lt;b&gt;LINES ON A SICK GYPSY&lt;/b&gt;

There we leave her, there we leave her,
Far from where her swarthy kindred roam,
In the scarlet fever, scarlet fever,
Scarlet fever convalescant home.

[cited by X. J. Kennedy and Dana Gioia, eds., &lt;i&gt;An Introduction to Poetry&lt;/i&gt;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh Captain, My Captain&#8221; is certainly a much better poem than the one I am about to share, but it does recall this sort of doggerel:</p>
<p><b>LINES ON A SICK GYPSY</b></p>
<p>There we leave her, there we leave her,<br />
Far from where her swarthy kindred roam,<br />
In the scarlet fever, scarlet fever,<br />
Scarlet fever convalescant home.</p>
<p>[cited by X. J. Kennedy and Dana Gioia, eds., <i>An Introduction to Poetry</i>]</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 01:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Way back when, we got the internet and the web, and other newer technologies came out.  One that caught my attention was the availability of free literature in electronic format.  The University of Virginia had one such depository and I downloaded some hopefully interesting content.

There was a biography on Ben Franklin.  I looked that the preface and a little bit of Chap. 1.  It was the most abysmal hagiography I&#039;d ever seen.  Completely unreadable IMO.  Limited and sparse factual detail buried in blather.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way back when, we got the internet and the web, and other newer technologies came out.  One that caught my attention was the availability of free literature in electronic format.  The University of Virginia had one such depository and I downloaded some hopefully interesting content.</p>
<p>There was a biography on Ben Franklin.  I looked that the preface and a little bit of Chap. 1.  It was the most abysmal hagiography I&#8217;d ever seen.  Completely unreadable IMO.  Limited and sparse factual detail buried in blather.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2025 00:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[George Washington was a gentleman,
A soldier and a scholar;
He crossed the Delaware with a boat,
The Potomac, with a dollar.
The British faced him full of joy,
And departed full of sorrow;
George Washington was a gentleman.
His birthday is tomorrow.

When approached by fellow patriots,
And asked for his opinion,
He spoke in accents clear and bold,
And, probably, Virginian.
His winter home at Valley Froge
Was underheated, rather.
He possessed a sturdy Roman nose,
And became his country&#039;s father.

His army was a hungry horde,
Ill-armed, worse-clad Colonials;
He was our leading President,
And discouraged ceremonials.
His portrait on our postage stamps,
It does him less than justice;
He was much respected by his wife,
The former Mrs. Custis.

He routed George&#039;s scarlet coats;
(Though oft by Congress hindered)
When they fortified the leeward side,
He slashed them from the windward.
He built and launched our Ship of State,
He brought it safe to harbor;
He wore no beard upon his chin,
Thanks to his faithful barber.

George Washington was a gentleman,
His birthday is tomorrow.
He filled his country&#039;s friends with joy,
His country&#039;s foes, with sorrow.
And so my dears, his grateful land
In robes of glory clad him.
George Washington was a gentleman.
I&#039;m glad his parents had him.

~Ogden Nash]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Washington was a gentleman,<br />
A soldier and a scholar;<br />
He crossed the Delaware with a boat,<br />
The Potomac, with a dollar.<br />
The British faced him full of joy,<br />
And departed full of sorrow;<br />
George Washington was a gentleman.<br />
His birthday is tomorrow.</p>
<p>When approached by fellow patriots,<br />
And asked for his opinion,<br />
He spoke in accents clear and bold,<br />
And, probably, Virginian.<br />
His winter home at Valley Froge<br />
Was underheated, rather.<br />
He possessed a sturdy Roman nose,<br />
And became his country&#8217;s father.</p>
<p>His army was a hungry horde,<br />
Ill-armed, worse-clad Colonials;<br />
He was our leading President,<br />
And discouraged ceremonials.<br />
His portrait on our postage stamps,<br />
It does him less than justice;<br />
He was much respected by his wife,<br />
The former Mrs. Custis.</p>
<p>He routed George&#8217;s scarlet coats;<br />
(Though oft by Congress hindered)<br />
When they fortified the leeward side,<br />
He slashed them from the windward.<br />
He built and launched our Ship of State,<br />
He brought it safe to harbor;<br />
He wore no beard upon his chin,<br />
Thanks to his faithful barber.</p>
<p>George Washington was a gentleman,<br />
His birthday is tomorrow.<br />
He filled his country&#8217;s friends with joy,<br />
His country&#8217;s foes, with sorrow.<br />
And so my dears, his grateful land<br />
In robes of glory clad him.<br />
George Washington was a gentleman.<br />
I&#8217;m glad his parents had him.</p>
<p>~Ogden Nash</p>
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		By: SHIREHOME		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2025 23:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had to memorize &quot;Oh Captain, My Captain&quot;, 11th grade I think (maybe Senior YR - it was a Looooog Time ago). Then, the Teacher (student Teacher actually), had us analyze it. Early intro to Lincoln. I like it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to memorize &#8220;Oh Captain, My Captain&#8221;, 11th grade I think (maybe Senior YR &#8211; it was a Looooog Time ago). Then, the Teacher (student Teacher actually), had us analyze it. Early intro to Lincoln. I like it.</p>
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