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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/02/13/keeping-up-with-the-doge-news/#comment-2788365</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[@crasey:&lt;i&gt;The Post does a good job of explaining what happens there, why it’s important to retirees, why it takes anywhere from 1 hr to several weeks to ensure each retiree’s record is complete and accurate.&lt;/i&gt;

Then how on Earth do the rest of us retire? I can confirm that tens of millions of people who have never worked for FedGov have nonetheless retired, grown old, and died without a problem, and without needing Iron Mountain to store their paper files.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@crasey:<i>The Post does a good job of explaining what happens there, why it’s important to retirees, why it takes anywhere from 1 hr to several weeks to ensure each retiree’s record is complete and accurate.</i></p>
<p>Then how on Earth do the rest of us retire? I can confirm that tens of millions of people who have never worked for FedGov have nonetheless retired, grown old, and died without a problem, and without needing Iron Mountain to store their paper files.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2025 03:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave Begley on February 14, 2025 at 8:32 am said:
&quot;If Elon can fix this, he deserves space on Mt. Rushmore.&quot;

Or at least on Iron Mountain.  Or on some rocky crag on the Moon or Mars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Begley on February 14, 2025 at 8:32 am said:<br />
&#8220;If Elon can fix this, he deserves space on Mt. Rushmore.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or at least on Iron Mountain.  Or on some rocky crag on the Moon or Mars.</p>
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		By: Telemachus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 20:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I retired from the fed gov I was due a lump sum for a specialized benefit. The amount was not in question, and there was nothing being contested. It took 8 months for the amount to electronically transfer into my account.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I retired from the fed gov I was due a lump sum for a specialized benefit. The amount was not in question, and there was nothing being contested. It took 8 months for the amount to electronically transfer into my account.</p>
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		By: art deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[art deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bush retainer once in charge of USAID insists everything was ship shape.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush retainer once in charge of USAID insists everything was ship shape.</p>
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		By: crasey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crasey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates, The Washington Post wrote about the same problem in 2014. https://archive.is/8Q5HX#selection-879.0-879.220

&quot; in 1958, the U.S. government was in the market for storage space. It needed 30,000 square feet to hold personnel files that were being relocated from a building in Washington. Officials looked at buildings in Richmond, Va., and Syracuse, N.Y., before choosing this place, an underground complex where 1,000 workers had once cut limestone to feed the steel mills.

The government moved its old records here in 1960. At first, it was just a file room. Records were shipped to Washington for processing. But over time, the government began to hire more people to work in the mine itself.&quot;

The rest is a quick read that answers many of your questions. Iron Mountain the company serves something like 60+ countries and thousands of customers in 1500+ facilities worldwide. Only a handful are underground. https://www.ironmountain.com/resources/landing-pages/i/iron-mountain-virtual-facility-tours

The Post does a good job of explaining what happens there, why it&#039;s important to retirees, why it takes anywhere from 1 hr to several weeks to ensure each retiree&#039;s record is complete and accurate. 

The USG has spent $100&#039;s of millions trying to marry and/or replace paper and computers with only marginal improvements. Some problems are hard. Contractors propose expensive solutions. Many dollars later contracts are cancelled and the process starts again with a new proposal and more dollars. 

We can spend dollars to move the OPM retirement section above ground in leased or owned space and then spend more dollars for archival storage of whatever records they process but it&#039;s unlikely to be cheaper and more effective than the abandoned mine the USG chose in 1958, but if it is let&#039;s do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niketas Choniates, The Washington Post wrote about the same problem in 2014. <a href="https://archive.is/8Q5HX#selection-879.0-879.220" rel="nofollow ugc">https://archive.is/8Q5HX#selection-879.0-879.220</a></p>
<p>&#8221; in 1958, the U.S. government was in the market for storage space. It needed 30,000 square feet to hold personnel files that were being relocated from a building in Washington. Officials looked at buildings in Richmond, Va., and Syracuse, N.Y., before choosing this place, an underground complex where 1,000 workers had once cut limestone to feed the steel mills.</p>
<p>The government moved its old records here in 1960. At first, it was just a file room. Records were shipped to Washington for processing. But over time, the government began to hire more people to work in the mine itself.&#8221;</p>
<p>The rest is a quick read that answers many of your questions. Iron Mountain the company serves something like 60+ countries and thousands of customers in 1500+ facilities worldwide. Only a handful are underground. <a href="https://www.ironmountain.com/resources/landing-pages/i/iron-mountain-virtual-facility-tours" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ironmountain.com/resources/landing-pages/i/iron-mountain-virtual-facility-tours</a></p>
<p>The Post does a good job of explaining what happens there, why it&#8217;s important to retirees, why it takes anywhere from 1 hr to several weeks to ensure each retiree&#8217;s record is complete and accurate. </p>
<p>The USG has spent $100&#8217;s of millions trying to marry and/or replace paper and computers with only marginal improvements. Some problems are hard. Contractors propose expensive solutions. Many dollars later contracts are cancelled and the process starts again with a new proposal and more dollars. </p>
<p>We can spend dollars to move the OPM retirement section above ground in leased or owned space and then spend more dollars for archival storage of whatever records they process but it&#8217;s unlikely to be cheaper and more effective than the abandoned mine the USG chose in 1958, but if it is let&#8217;s do it.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/02/13/keeping-up-with-the-doge-news/#comment-2788245</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep thems the mean kids

https://fxtwitter.com/cb_doge/status/1890120471032869151

Swisher is one of the leading deplatforming hacks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep thems the mean kids</p>
<p><a href="https://fxtwitter.com/cb_doge/status/1890120471032869151" rel="nofollow ugc">https://fxtwitter.com/cb_doge/status/1890120471032869151</a></p>
<p>Swisher is one of the leading deplatforming hacks</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/02/13/keeping-up-with-the-doge-news/#comment-2788240</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Incidentally, what makes it harder to keep up with DOGE news is the inaccuracy and confusion of the reporting on DOGE activities, sometimes by people who deliberately want to cause as much fear, uncertainty, and doubt as possible. And sometimes by people who are in favor what DOGE is doing.

I would recommend that anything you read about DOGE, click through to the source material (if any) before believing it. An example is anything you read in the legacy media about what an executive order says or does. They have always lied about anything they didn&#039;t like (e. g. &quot;Don&#039;t Say Gay&quot; in Florida, which did none of the things they said it was going to do) , or liked a lot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, what makes it harder to keep up with DOGE news is the inaccuracy and confusion of the reporting on DOGE activities, sometimes by people who deliberately want to cause as much fear, uncertainty, and doubt as possible. And sometimes by people who are in favor what DOGE is doing.</p>
<p>I would recommend that anything you read about DOGE, click through to the source material (if any) before believing it. An example is anything you read in the legacy media about what an executive order says or does. They have always lied about anything they didn&#8217;t like (e. g. &#8220;Don&#8217;t Say Gay&#8221; in Florida, which did none of the things they said it was going to do) , or liked a lot.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe the euros use the same mines the nazis stashed their loot in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the euros use the same mines the nazis stashed their loot in.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/02/13/keeping-up-with-the-doge-news/#comment-2788233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@crasey:&lt;i&gt;Multiple attempts to modernize and automate USG record-keeping from Clinton to Obama have failed. IMHO that’s where the DOGE guys could put their exceptional coding skills to work. The need for secure archival storage is probably not going to change.&lt;/i&gt;

Nobody has really wanted to change it. Too many paychecks depend on keeping it as it is. There are fifty state governments who need to keep records, many comparable to an entire European nation in population, how many of them have hollowed-out mountains in which to do so? How many European nations have needed a hollowed-out mountain to keep their records in? (I will give you Switzerland, their National Redoubt hollowed out of the Alps probably has storage for government archives.)

One refreshing thing about the second Trump administration is the exposure of a lot of bullshit accepted as conventional wisdom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@crasey:<i>Multiple attempts to modernize and automate USG record-keeping from Clinton to Obama have failed. IMHO that’s where the DOGE guys could put their exceptional coding skills to work. The need for secure archival storage is probably not going to change.</i></p>
<p>Nobody has really wanted to change it. Too many paychecks depend on keeping it as it is. There are fifty state governments who need to keep records, many comparable to an entire European nation in population, how many of them have hollowed-out mountains in which to do so? How many European nations have needed a hollowed-out mountain to keep their records in? (I will give you Switzerland, their National Redoubt hollowed out of the Alps probably has storage for government archives.)</p>
<p>One refreshing thing about the second Trump administration is the exposure of a lot of bullshit accepted as conventional wisdom.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2025/02/13/keeping-up-with-the-doge-news/#comment-2788230</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Chases Eagles:&lt;i&gt;Mt. Rushmore is Borglum’s art work. We have no right to alter it.&lt;/i&gt;

Except maybe to chisel them off. Is there anything more Communist than sculpting a mountain into the image of our Great Leaders&#039; glorious heads? &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-america-has-president-instead-exalted-highness-180961841/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;George Washington would have slapped Borglum into the ground for suggesting it.&lt;/a&gt; (And one of those heads is not like the others, little bit of recency bias there.)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Some delegates to the Constitutional Convention suggested “His Exalted Highness,” with others chiming in with the more democratic “His Elective Highness.” Other suggestions included the formal “Chief Magistrate” and the lengthy “His Highness the President of the United States of America, and Protector of Their Liberties.” The debate went on for multiple weeks...

Eventually the Senate agreed to the simplified version of their grandiose title, and Washington became President of the United States. “Happily the matter is now done with, I hope never to be revived,” Washington wrote at the conclusion of the ordeal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chases Eagles:<i>Mt. Rushmore is Borglum’s art work. We have no right to alter it.</i></p>
<p>Except maybe to chisel them off. Is there anything more Communist than sculpting a mountain into the image of our Great Leaders&#8217; glorious heads? <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-america-has-president-instead-exalted-highness-180961841/" rel="nofollow ugc">George Washington would have slapped Borglum into the ground for suggesting it.</a> (And one of those heads is not like the others, little bit of recency bias there.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Some delegates to the Constitutional Convention suggested “His Exalted Highness,” with others chiming in with the more democratic “His Elective Highness.” Other suggestions included the formal “Chief Magistrate” and the lengthy “His Highness the President of the United States of America, and Protector of Their Liberties.” The debate went on for multiple weeks&#8230;</p>
<p>Eventually the Senate agreed to the simplified version of their grandiose title, and Washington became President of the United States. “Happily the matter is now done with, I hope never to be revived,” Washington wrote at the conclusion of the ordeal.</p></blockquote>
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