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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Pennies

I&#039;m wondering if there is a collector&#039;s angle to this. 

Back in the 70s I knew a woman who worked as a bank teller and she was always scanning for pre-1958 pennies with the wheat sheaves on the back. She did well if she kept them.

Today I&#039;ll bet it&#039;s a good move to buy up rolls of uncirculated pennies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Pennies</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if there is a collector&#8217;s angle to this. </p>
<p>Back in the 70s I knew a woman who worked as a bank teller and she was always scanning for pre-1958 pennies with the wheat sheaves on the back. She did well if she kept them.</p>
<p>Today I&#8217;ll bet it&#8217;s a good move to buy up rolls of uncirculated pennies.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ mkent &#062; &quot;You just can’t compare the waste of the pre-Obama years to the deep-state monster that came after, both in size and in maliciousness.&quot;

Point taken.
But waste and fraud and carefully not looking at things that could have been corrected is IMO a feature of all the administrations of both parties since at least WWI if not earlier, even if at a lower level.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ mkent &gt; &#8220;You just can’t compare the waste of the pre-Obama years to the deep-state monster that came after, both in size and in maliciousness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Point taken.<br />
But waste and fraud and carefully not looking at things that could have been corrected is IMO a feature of all the administrations of both parties since at least WWI if not earlier, even if at a lower level.</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 04:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;”But the ‘working across the aisle’ was often too friendly prior to that.”&lt;/i&gt;

Working across the aisle was friendly back then because there was a broad consensus on the direction that the country should take from the time of Pearl Harbor to the time Obama took power in 2009.  There were differences between the parties, sure, but the differences were at the margin, not in fundamental direction.  Obama changed all that.

A case in point: in the early 1990’s Bill Clinton tried to pass a $20 billion stimulus bill to lift the U. S. economy out of recession.  The Republicans shot down the bill by rightfully arguing that $20 billion was far too small to stimulate an economy the size of America’s.  Fifteen years later Obama and the Democrats passed a $787 billion “stimulus” bill that contained about $40 billion of actual stimulus.  The other three quarters of a trillion dollars was a wishlist of leftist spending.

Through the use of baseline budgeting most of that spending got baked into the annual budget, raising the deficit from about $100 billion in 2007 to about $2 trillion today.  The COVID Relief Act and the Inflation Reduction Act served similar purposes.

That’s a difference in scale so large that it’s a difference in kind ($20 billion —&#062; $747 billion &#038; $100 billion —&#062; $2 trillion).  The $20 billion is waste, ill advised but affordable, but $747 billion is a ruinous deep-state monster.  A $100 billion deficit can be financed through bonds, but a $2 trillion deficit must be monetized, leading to ruinous inflation.

You just can’t compare the waste of the pre-Obama years to the deep-state monster that came after, both in size and in maliciousness.  Attacking allies for the molehills of the 1990s makes enemies of people we need to tackle the mountains of today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>”But the ‘working across the aisle’ was often too friendly prior to that.”</i></p>
<p>Working across the aisle was friendly back then because there was a broad consensus on the direction that the country should take from the time of Pearl Harbor to the time Obama took power in 2009.  There were differences between the parties, sure, but the differences were at the margin, not in fundamental direction.  Obama changed all that.</p>
<p>A case in point: in the early 1990’s Bill Clinton tried to pass a $20 billion stimulus bill to lift the U. S. economy out of recession.  The Republicans shot down the bill by rightfully arguing that $20 billion was far too small to stimulate an economy the size of America’s.  Fifteen years later Obama and the Democrats passed a $787 billion “stimulus” bill that contained about $40 billion of actual stimulus.  The other three quarters of a trillion dollars was a wishlist of leftist spending.</p>
<p>Through the use of baseline budgeting most of that spending got baked into the annual budget, raising the deficit from about $100 billion in 2007 to about $2 trillion today.  The COVID Relief Act and the Inflation Reduction Act served similar purposes.</p>
<p>That’s a difference in scale so large that it’s a difference in kind ($20 billion —&gt; $747 billion &amp; $100 billion —&gt; $2 trillion).  The $20 billion is waste, ill advised but affordable, but $747 billion is a ruinous deep-state monster.  A $100 billion deficit can be financed through bonds, but a $2 trillion deficit must be monetized, leading to ruinous inflation.</p>
<p>You just can’t compare the waste of the pre-Obama years to the deep-state monster that came after, both in size and in maliciousness.  Attacking allies for the molehills of the 1990s makes enemies of people we need to tackle the mountains of today.</p>
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		By: art deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;That this cost has nearly quadrupled in only 19 years gives you a decent estimate of the true level of inflation (7.1% average over that time period by this calculation).&lt;/i&gt;
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No, it does not give you a &#039;decent&#039; estimate of that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That this cost has nearly quadrupled in only 19 years gives you a decent estimate of the true level of inflation (7.1% average over that time period by this calculation).</i><br />
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No, it does not give you a &#8216;decent&#8217; estimate of that.</p>
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		By: art deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[art deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 03:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The only Republican president to hold office since Obama put this fraud in place has been Trump. &lt;/i&gt;
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Grant distribution is an inherently troublesome activity.  I doubt the fraud appeared during BO&#039;s administration or that he had much granular knowledge of it.  Tossing public money to their pets is what Democrats do.
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Please note the odious Dr. Fauci was placed in charge of NIH in 1984 and was unaccountably never replaced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The only Republican president to hold office since Obama put this fraud in place has been Trump. </i><br />
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Grant distribution is an inherently troublesome activity.  I doubt the fraud appeared during BO&#8217;s administration or that he had much granular knowledge of it.  Tossing public money to their pets is what Democrats do.<br />
==<br />
Please note the odious Dr. Fauci was placed in charge of NIH in 1984 and was unaccountably never replaced.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 02:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[mkent: &quot;If you want to blame Republican presidents for this, blame Trump. And only Trump.&quot;
I agree that Obama was the one seeking a major &quot;transformation&quot; of the country to his Marxist dreams.  
But the &quot;working across the aisle&quot; was often too friendly prior to that. 
E.g., 
Reagan did not really &quot;trust, but verify&quot; when it came to the border/immigration law changes. 
Not sure exactly but late 80&#039;s or early 90&#039;s seems to be when we accepted some political correctness as being polite, when violent and vitrolic rejection would have been a better answer. 
A good friend of the Saudia ambassador did not reject &quot;Islam is a religion of peace&quot; when we know now (and some knew then) that that was deeply flawed thinking.

But again, hindsight is 20-20.  And the fog is being flown away via Trump 2.0 et al.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mkent: &#8220;If you want to blame Republican presidents for this, blame Trump. And only Trump.&#8221;<br />
I agree that Obama was the one seeking a major &#8220;transformation&#8221; of the country to his Marxist dreams.<br />
But the &#8220;working across the aisle&#8221; was often too friendly prior to that.<br />
E.g.,<br />
Reagan did not really &#8220;trust, but verify&#8221; when it came to the border/immigration law changes.<br />
Not sure exactly but late 80&#8217;s or early 90&#8217;s seems to be when we accepted some political correctness as being polite, when violent and vitrolic rejection would have been a better answer.<br />
A good friend of the Saudia ambassador did not reject &#8220;Islam is a religion of peace&#8221; when we know now (and some knew then) that that was deeply flawed thinking.</p>
<p>But again, hindsight is 20-20.  And the fog is being flown away via Trump 2.0 et al.</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 02:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AwsopFan, I was going to trade you my typo [ enegy vs. enemy] for yours, as [their &quot;spots on&quot; the pig trough] vs. [their &quot;snouts in&quot; the pig trough], but then I reread it and realized that your &quot;spot on&quot; was ... well ... spot on!  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AwsopFan, I was going to trade you my typo [ enegy vs. enemy] for yours, as [their &#8220;spots on&#8221; the pig trough] vs. [their &#8220;snouts in&#8221; the pig trough], but then I reread it and realized that your &#8220;spot on&#8221; was &#8230; well &#8230; spot on!  🙂</p>
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		By: Dax		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2025 06:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyone else remember the old Johnson Smith mail order novelty catalog? They listed a &quot;1942 Steel Penny ... No steel pennies were made in 1942, so if this one is real, it is worth a fortune! And it is! ... Price $1.00&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else remember the old Johnson Smith mail order novelty catalog? They listed a &#8220;1942 Steel Penny &#8230; No steel pennies were made in 1942, so if this one is real, it is worth a fortune! And it is! &#8230; Price $1.00&#8221;</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mkent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2025 06:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;”As is becoming clear, the Republicans, when holding the executive reins of a presidential administration, could have put a stop to most of the fraud any time they wanted to.”&lt;/i&gt;

No, they couldn’t.  The only Republican president to hold office since Obama put this fraud in place has been Trump.  If you want to blame Republican presidents for this, blame Trump.  And only Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>”As is becoming clear, the Republicans, when holding the executive reins of a presidential administration, could have put a stop to most of the fraud any time they wanted to.”</i></p>
<p>No, they couldn’t.  The only Republican president to hold office since Obama put this fraud in place has been Trump.  If you want to blame Republican presidents for this, blame Trump.  And only Trump.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2025 05:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a senior systems architect, I used my college accounting far more than I used anything else from school. The higher you go the more finance stuff you have to do. I told my wife yesterday that I wish I was 22 again and working for DOGE. Or SpaceX.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a senior systems architect, I used my college accounting far more than I used anything else from school. The higher you go the more finance stuff you have to do. I told my wife yesterday that I wish I was 22 again and working for DOGE. Or SpaceX.</p>
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