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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[The lies by the govt about the H Biden laptop, and its many crimes documented, means the 2020 election was not Free and Fair. Thus rigged, stolen.  Trump’s conclusion is correct. 
But Trump focused on unprovable, tho likely, fraud in the 81 million Biden votes, including 50+ million mail in (80% of 65 million).

We need paper ballots, same day counting.  Very limited absentee mail-in ballots, must be received &#038; recorded as received by end of election working day, counted then.

2020 was rigged, stolen; yet now I’m glad for VP Vance &#038; MAGA Reps, rather than Mitch GOPe Reps. Trump so strong many illegals are being deported.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lies by the govt about the H Biden laptop, and its many crimes documented, means the 2020 election was not Free and Fair. Thus rigged, stolen.  Trump’s conclusion is correct.<br />
But Trump focused on unprovable, tho likely, fraud in the 81 million Biden votes, including 50+ million mail in (80% of 65 million).</p>
<p>We need paper ballots, same day counting.  Very limited absentee mail-in ballots, must be received &amp; recorded as received by end of election working day, counted then.</p>
<p>2020 was rigged, stolen; yet now I’m glad for VP Vance &amp; MAGA Reps, rather than Mitch GOPe Reps. Trump so strong many illegals are being deported.</p>
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		By: David Davies		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Davies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My answer to the question of &#039;Who won the election in 2020?&#039;:

I don&#039;t know.  I cannot know as the security of the data was utterly compromised.

If the LeftProgs really want us proles to believe their elections express our &#039;democratic&#039; preferences then they need to ensure that the elections can be trusted.

And no, it is not racist or misogynist or whateverist to distrust the &#039;authorities&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My answer to the question of &#8216;Who won the election in 2020?&#8217;:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  I cannot know as the security of the data was utterly compromised.</p>
<p>If the LeftProgs really want us proles to believe their elections express our &#8216;democratic&#8217; preferences then they need to ensure that the elections can be trusted.</p>
<p>And no, it is not racist or misogynist or whateverist to distrust the &#8216;authorities&#8217;.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 09:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ huxley  &#062; &quot;According to exit polls, young men under 30 supported Donald Trump by a 14-point margin, a substantial change from the 2020 election, where Joe Biden held a 15-point advantage in this demographic.&quot;

That&#039;s a prime group for two things: old enough to be getting started on careers and families and having learned during Biden&#039;s term that the Democrats are Not Their Friends; young enough that they don&#039;t have any emotional or electoral connection to the geriatric Old Guard running for office.  A big clue to that change is how Obama&#039;s rebuke to the bros for not supporting Harris got zip traction.

The interesting thing about these demographic blocs is that they keep changing their actual membership over time: the young men who were 27-30 in 2020 are now in the &quot;over 30&quot; block, and there are 4 years worth of new young men among the voters.

Sometimes I think there might be some value to a longitudinal poll of the different cohorts. IOW: for the specific voters in that four-year chunk, how many changed their voting from one party to the other? That would measure the change we&#039;re interested in, regarding how many Democrats have gotten the message about their party&#039;s lack of interest in them, as discussed on the Open Thread.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ huxley  &gt; &#8220;According to exit polls, young men under 30 supported Donald Trump by a 14-point margin, a substantial change from the 2020 election, where Joe Biden held a 15-point advantage in this demographic.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a prime group for two things: old enough to be getting started on careers and families and having learned during Biden&#8217;s term that the Democrats are Not Their Friends; young enough that they don&#8217;t have any emotional or electoral connection to the geriatric Old Guard running for office.  A big clue to that change is how Obama&#8217;s rebuke to the bros for not supporting Harris got zip traction.</p>
<p>The interesting thing about these demographic blocs is that they keep changing their actual membership over time: the young men who were 27-30 in 2020 are now in the &#8220;over 30&#8221; block, and there are 4 years worth of new young men among the voters.</p>
<p>Sometimes I think there might be some value to a longitudinal poll of the different cohorts. IOW: for the specific voters in that four-year chunk, how many changed their voting from one party to the other? That would measure the change we&#8217;re interested in, regarding how many Democrats have gotten the message about their party&#8217;s lack of interest in them, as discussed on the Open Thread.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 05:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here’s a “funny” one (Politico again):

“White House reporters went from covering an &#039;invisible president&#039; Biden to &#039;omnipresent&#039; Trump…”—
https://www.foxnews.com/media/white-house-reporters-went-from-covering-invisible-president-biden-omnipresent-trump-politico
Key jokes:
‘…Trump’s huge media presence is a change compared to the &lt;b&gt;more muted&lt;/b&gt; Biden years…

‘…One reporter referred to Trump’s pressers as a &quot;free-for-all&quot; for journalists after &quot;four years of begging for access to the &lt;b&gt;more cloistered&lt;/b&gt; Biden.&quot;…

‘…One downside the article considered, however, was whether constant access to Trump and his thoughts would almost be &quot;too much for the media and public to absorb.&quot;….’

Heh, “muted”, “more cloistered”…and all that “journalistic” concern for “the public”. 

To paraphrase, Still jokers after all these months…

Color me nauseated….]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a “funny” one (Politico again):</p>
<p>“White House reporters went from covering an &#8216;invisible president&#8217; Biden to &#8216;omnipresent&#8217; Trump…”—<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/media/white-house-reporters-went-from-covering-invisible-president-biden-omnipresent-trump-politico" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/media/white-house-reporters-went-from-covering-invisible-president-biden-omnipresent-trump-politico</a><br />
Key jokes:<br />
‘…Trump’s huge media presence is a change compared to the <b>more muted</b> Biden years…</p>
<p>‘…One reporter referred to Trump’s pressers as a &#8220;free-for-all&#8221; for journalists after &#8220;four years of begging for access to the <b>more cloistered</b> Biden.&#8221;…</p>
<p>‘…One downside the article considered, however, was whether constant access to Trump and his thoughts would almost be &#8220;too much for the media and public to absorb.&#8221;….’</p>
<p>Heh, “muted”, “more cloistered”…and all that “journalistic” concern for “the public”. </p>
<p>To paraphrase, Still jokers after all these months…</p>
<p>Color me nauseated….</p>
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		By: Dax		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 04:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley wrote &quot;These are the good old days.&quot;

What, no YouTube link to Carly Simon&#039;s &quot;Anticipation&quot;??  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley wrote &#8220;These are the good old days.&#8221;</p>
<p>What, no YouTube link to Carly Simon&#8217;s &#8220;Anticipation&#8221;??  🙂</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 03:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I don’t believe tech CEOs ever were; they just had to play along.&quot;
huxley

What a bunch of wusses. Why didn&#039;t they man up and act like the free enterprise believers they claim to be now?   Eleven years of letting commie activists work for them?  Color me disgusted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t believe tech CEOs ever were; they just had to play along.&#8221;<br />
huxley</p>
<p>What a bunch of wusses. Why didn&#8217;t they man up and act like the free enterprise believers they claim to be now?   Eleven years of letting commie activists work for them?  Color me disgusted.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 02:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to Andreessen:
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&lt;i&gt;Andreessen: &lt;b&gt;By 2013, the median newly arrived Harvard kid was like: “[expletive] it. We’re burning the system down. You are all evil. White people are evil. All men are evil. Capitalism is evil. Tech is evil.”&lt;/b&gt;

Douthat: But they’re working for you. These are people who are working for you.

Andreessen: Of course. So I had this moment with a senior executive, who I won’t name, but he said to me with a sense of dawning horror, “I think some of these kids are joining the company not with the intent of doing things for us but destroying us.”

&lt;b&gt;They’re professional activists in their own minds, first and foremost. And it just turns out the way to exercise professional activism right now, most effectively, is to go and destroy a company from the inside.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
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The four years of Biden are not forever. (They just felt like it.)

According to exit polls, young men under 30 supported Donald Trump by a 14-point margin, a substantial change from the 2020 election, where Joe Biden held a 15-point advantage in this demographic. 

I suspect the next gen of tech workers won&#039;t be anti-capitalist, woke activists. I don&#039;t believe tech CEOs ever were; they just had to play along.

&lt;i&gt;The times, they are a-changin&#039;.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Andreessen:<br />
_________________________________</p>
<p><i>Andreessen: <b>By 2013, the median newly arrived Harvard kid was like: “[expletive] it. We’re burning the system down. You are all evil. White people are evil. All men are evil. Capitalism is evil. Tech is evil.”</b></p>
<p>Douthat: But they’re working for you. These are people who are working for you.</p>
<p>Andreessen: Of course. So I had this moment with a senior executive, who I won’t name, but he said to me with a sense of dawning horror, “I think some of these kids are joining the company not with the intent of doing things for us but destroying us.”</p>
<p><b>They’re professional activists in their own minds, first and foremost. And it just turns out the way to exercise professional activism right now, most effectively, is to go and destroy a company from the inside.</b></i><br />
_________________________________</p>
<p>The four years of Biden are not forever. (They just felt like it.)</p>
<p>According to exit polls, young men under 30 supported Donald Trump by a 14-point margin, a substantial change from the 2020 election, where Joe Biden held a 15-point advantage in this demographic. </p>
<p>I suspect the next gen of tech workers won&#8217;t be anti-capitalist, woke activists. I don&#8217;t believe tech CEOs ever were; they just had to play along.</p>
<p><i>The times, they are a-changin&#8217;.</i></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 02:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...the old Silicon Valley. &lt;b&gt;This was the Valley of the libertarian-ish techno-hippies who founded it, eccentrics imbued with the do-it-yourself spirit, who fused together both halves of the 1960s that had birthed them – the individualist counterculture of Woodstock, and the hard-charging engineering genius that put men on the moon in the same year.&lt;/b&gt; These were the men (yes, invariably, men) who created what will likely be the last great creative outburst of American industry.

https://antidem.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/electric-requiem/&lt;/i&gt;

Hubert:

Thanks for the link. I too was there and I do miss that glorious time:
___________________________

&lt;i&gt;Those were the days, my friend
We thought they&#039;d never end

--Mary Hopkins, &quot;Those Were The Days (Remastered)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXc5Oe_kj8k&lt;/i&gt;
___________________________

However, as Lee Felsenstein, an original member of the legendary Homebrew Computer Club and the designer of the Osborne 1 (the first barely portable computer) used to say at Odd Sundays, an ad hoc Whole Earth gathering I attended:
________________________

&lt;i&gt;These are the good old days.&lt;/i&gt;
________________________

Words I live by. 

When Trump says this is the start of a Golden Age, I&#039;m willing to believe him and put my hacker shoulder to the wheel.

I&#039;m working with AI to build my own language learning app.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;the old Silicon Valley. <b>This was the Valley of the libertarian-ish techno-hippies who founded it, eccentrics imbued with the do-it-yourself spirit, who fused together both halves of the 1960s that had birthed them – the individualist counterculture of Woodstock, and the hard-charging engineering genius that put men on the moon in the same year.</b> These were the men (yes, invariably, men) who created what will likely be the last great creative outburst of American industry.</p>
<p><a href="https://antidem.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/electric-requiem/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://antidem.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/electric-requiem/</a></i></p>
<p>Hubert:</p>
<p>Thanks for the link. I too was there and I do miss that glorious time:<br />
___________________________</p>
<p><i>Those were the days, my friend<br />
We thought they&#8217;d never end</p>
<p>&#8211;Mary Hopkins, &#8220;Those Were The Days (Remastered)<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXc5Oe_kj8k" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXc5Oe_kj8k</a></i><br />
___________________________</p>
<p>However, as Lee Felsenstein, an original member of the legendary Homebrew Computer Club and the designer of the Osborne 1 (the first barely portable computer) used to say at Odd Sundays, an ad hoc Whole Earth gathering I attended:<br />
________________________</p>
<p><i>These are the good old days.</i><br />
________________________</p>
<p>Words I live by. </p>
<p>When Trump says this is the start of a Golden Age, I&#8217;m willing to believe him and put my hacker shoulder to the wheel.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working with AI to build my own language learning app.</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cicero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jan 2025 22:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Politico is a work of garbage and John Harris is its steward.
Have not read it in years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politico is a work of garbage and John Harris is its steward.<br />
Have not read it in years.</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jan 2025 20:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sparkee: I thought it was cool and that it had interesting implications for my then profession, but that was it. I did not know that I was witnessing the birth of a new medium and a world-changing event.

Netscape Navigator was the commercial successor to Mosaic. It was a joint venture between Silicon Valley entrepreneur Jim Clark and Andreessen, who had just graduated from UIUC and moved to California. Netscape rapidly overtook Mosaic in popularity; we started using it in my office at UIUC in 1994-1995.

Those were heady and hopeful days--just writing about them here makes me remember how it was.

Alas, nothing gold can stay. This 2021 post--&quot;Requiem for an Electric Dream&quot;--from an apparently dormant blog captures the promise of those early years in Silicon Valley and how it all eventually went sour:

https://antidem.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/electric-requiem/

The author--&quot;AntiDem&quot;--made some of the same points Andreessen makes in his interviews with Robinson and Douthat. Among our commenters, I believe Huxley was there (in what AntiDem calls &quot;the old Silicon Valley&quot;) around the same time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sparkee: I thought it was cool and that it had interesting implications for my then profession, but that was it. I did not know that I was witnessing the birth of a new medium and a world-changing event.</p>
<p>Netscape Navigator was the commercial successor to Mosaic. It was a joint venture between Silicon Valley entrepreneur Jim Clark and Andreessen, who had just graduated from UIUC and moved to California. Netscape rapidly overtook Mosaic in popularity; we started using it in my office at UIUC in 1994-1995.</p>
<p>Those were heady and hopeful days&#8211;just writing about them here makes me remember how it was.</p>
<p>Alas, nothing gold can stay. This 2021 post&#8211;&#8220;Requiem for an Electric Dream&#8221;&#8211;from an apparently dormant blog captures the promise of those early years in Silicon Valley and how it all eventually went sour:</p>
<p><a href="https://antidem.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/electric-requiem/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://antidem.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/electric-requiem/</a></p>
<p>The author&#8211;&#8220;AntiDem&#8221;&#8211;made some of the same points Andreessen makes in his interviews with Robinson and Douthat. Among our commenters, I believe Huxley was there (in what AntiDem calls &#8220;the old Silicon Valley&#8221;) around the same time.</p>
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