Comments on: RIP Jules Feiffer

By: R2L

R2L — Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:43:00 +0000

What happens on a cruise ship should stay on a cruise ship.

By: R2L

R2L — Fri, 24 Jan 2025 03:42:07 +0000

AesopFan on January 23, 2025 at 3:59 am
Relating to your comment:
In the interest of advancing bi-partisanship and following the examples set by Hamas negotiators, perhaps an arrangement can be made that for every fetus born to illegal alien women while in the US and granted “birth right citizenship”, at least 1000 abortions planned by pregnant legal residents must be denied.
sarc/ [if sarc was found]

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:01:09 +0000

Bonus story, tangential to the “race names” discussion.
You really have to see the pictures to understand.
https://notthebee.com/article/cruise-staff-dresses-up-as-upside-down-snow-cones

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 08:59:34 +0000

@ R2L – agreed.
Which is why we shouldn’t ever let the Left define the terms we use, but it happens all the time.

On the other hand, they readily jettison their own jargon when they see an advantage to doing so.

https://notthebee.com/article/breaking-new-york-times-uses-phrase-unborn-child-in-article-about-deportation

Why is this a news story?

Because the media routinely uses terms like “chestfeeder,” “people who bleed,” “birthing person,” or even “human milk-feeding individual” when referring to women (sometimes “cis woman” makes the cut).
And it uses “fetus” or “embryo” when talking about abortion.
…
But now that they want everyone to see how mean Trump’s deportation policy is, they suddenly started calling them “women” and “children” again.

FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS!
…
A PREGNANT WOMAN WITH A BABY!

In The New York Times! In 2025!

They must really want to convince us of something.

I wonder what that is? ?

By: R2L

R2L — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 05:34:58 +0000

The real problem with the racial group naming thing was the distortion of a willingness to be polite and designate people using their preferred term, into the political correctness harangues that followed.

By: Marlene

Marlene — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 04:16:05 +0000

Mongo wrote: “… refer to nonwhite people as “colored people.” ”
I grew up thinking that was appropriate, and even fine.
Turns out, it’s more complicated, lol.

By: TR

TR — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 01:51:25 +0000

I was in a high school production of “The Apple Tree,” a musical adaptation of three stories by different writers (including Mark Twain). I think it had been only mildly successful on Broadway in the 1960s, despite being written by Bock and Harnick of “Fiddler on the Roof” fame, directed by Mike Nichols, and starring a young Alan Alda. One segment was based on Feiffer’s illustrated story “Passionella,” a Cinderella parody in which a shy woman is magically transformed into a sexy movie star. It was mostly a send-up of glamorous method actors from the ’50s and ’60s, like Marlon Brando and Marilyn Monroe, and their supposed search for authenticity. Which was kind of funny, but the references were extremely outdated by the time we got to it. (Honestly, I don’t know why my school chose that show, but it was still better than doing “Oklahoma!” yet again.)

By: Mongo

Mongo — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 01:44:22 +0000

Regarding the Bloom County take, whenever the opportunity arises I refer to nonwhite people as “colored people.” When someone inevitably corrects me I ask, “what is the difference?” Never yet gotten an answer.

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:43:13 +0000

I guess I thought he’d already died.
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I saw a production of the play Feiffer’s People in 1982. It was by a collection of high school students. With one possible exception, I don’t think I’ve ever been so entertained by a play.

By: Niketas Choniates

Niketas Choniates — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:25:47 +0000

The "black" vs "African American" theme was done much better, in my opinion, by Berke Breathed in "Bloom County" in 1988 but I'm not sure which came first. I loved the Phantom Tollbooth and my children have enjoyed it. It's hard to picture it without the illustrations, which is a sign of a good illustrator: for example it's jarring to see a Dickens novel illustrated by someone else, if it was illustrated by Phiz.