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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2024 02:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Setting the stage?
A softening up operation?

Lady Liberty begging, weeping, imploring, shrieking…”Save me, save me from this demon Trump!!”?

(Though this is why they HAD TO steal the election in 2020. So they’ll have to conjure up a different excuse this time…hey, dollars to donuts it’ll be linked to the Russkies!…)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Setting the stage?<br />
A softening up operation?</p>
<p>Lady Liberty begging, weeping, imploring, shrieking…”Save me, save me from this demon Trump!!”?</p>
<p>(Though this is why they HAD TO steal the election in 2020. So they’ll have to conjure up a different excuse this time…hey, dollars to donuts it’ll be linked to the Russkies!…)</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/12/23/open-thread-12-23-2024/#comment-2779148</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 22:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was wondering when the unicorns would gallop into this news.

Not China, not Iran, not human pranksters, nor even black ops by the US government.  Nope, unicorns.  What can&#039;t they do?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering when the unicorns would gallop into this news.</p>
<p>Not China, not Iran, not human pranksters, nor even black ops by the US government.  Nope, unicorns.  What can&#8217;t they do?</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 22:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Snow On Pine:&lt;i&gt;I suspect that what we are dealing with is a mixture–actual drones, but also some genuine NHI UAPs.&lt;/i&gt;

I suspect that we may have seen a few real drones, and then a lot of people who don&#039;t look out at night much &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/drone-harford-maryland-wes-moore-larry-hogan-sightings/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;started looking and calling a &quot;drone&quot; anything they didn&#039;t know what it was&lt;/a&gt;, and the government has no idea how to address it because they have no idea what people are actually seeing. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The stars at the 39 second mark are recognizably the constellation Orion. From this you can determine that the bright lights behind the trees are the stars Sirius and Procyon.  No anamalous objects are apparent in this video. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I may have told this story before but out walking one night I was startled by a large, pale, glowing delta wing, making a soft noise like static, flying slowly over head, apparently huge and far-off. It took me a few minutes to figure it out, it was trumpeter swans (which are the size of small children) and the city lights reflecting from their feathers, flying low and slowly. There&#039;s a lot of weird-looking stuff out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Snow On Pine:<i>I suspect that what we are dealing with is a mixture–actual drones, but also some genuine NHI UAPs.</i></p>
<p>I suspect that we may have seen a few real drones, and then a lot of people who don&#8217;t look out at night much <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/drone-harford-maryland-wes-moore-larry-hogan-sightings/" rel="nofollow ugc">started looking and calling a &#8220;drone&#8221; anything they didn&#8217;t know what it was</a>, and the government has no idea how to address it because they have no idea what people are actually seeing. </p>
<blockquote><p>The stars at the 39 second mark are recognizably the constellation Orion. From this you can determine that the bright lights behind the trees are the stars Sirius and Procyon.  No anamalous objects are apparent in this video. </p></blockquote>
<p>I may have told this story before but out walking one night I was startled by a large, pale, glowing delta wing, making a soft noise like static, flying slowly over head, apparently huge and far-off. It took me a few minutes to figure it out, it was trumpeter swans (which are the size of small children) and the city lights reflecting from their feathers, flying low and slowly. There&#8217;s a lot of weird-looking stuff out there.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/12/23/open-thread-12-23-2024/#comment-2779138</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 21:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@miguel cervantes:&lt;i&gt;that doesn’r seem to make sense, gravity slowing down time&lt;/i&gt;

Whether it makes sense to you or not, the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.gpsworld.com/inside-the-box-gps-and-relativity/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;GPS satellites&lt;/a&gt; have to correct for this. I don&#039;t vouch for everything in the article Mike Plaiss linked, but that gravity affects time has been incorporated into engineering.

&lt;blockquote&gt;According to the theory of general relativity, on the other hand, a clock in a weaker gravitational field will tick faster than one that’s stationary at sea level. Apparently, gravity weighs down time, too. A clock aboard a GPS satellite in a medium Earth orbit will gain about 45 microseconds per day over a clock that’s at sea level on the earth...

if the relativistic effects had been ignored, the timing accuracy would have suffered to the extent of 38 microseconds per day between updates of the clock parameters. That’s a deal-breaker, considering that we expect 100-nanosecond accuracy.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@miguel cervantes:<i>that doesn’r seem to make sense, gravity slowing down time</i></p>
<p>Whether it makes sense to you or not, the <a href="https://www.gpsworld.com/inside-the-box-gps-and-relativity/" rel="nofollow ugc">GPS satellites</a> have to correct for this. I don&#8217;t vouch for everything in the article Mike Plaiss linked, but that gravity affects time has been incorporated into engineering.</p>
<blockquote><p>According to the theory of general relativity, on the other hand, a clock in a weaker gravitational field will tick faster than one that’s stationary at sea level. Apparently, gravity weighs down time, too. A clock aboard a GPS satellite in a medium Earth orbit will gain about 45 microseconds per day over a clock that’s at sea level on the earth&#8230;</p>
<p>if the relativistic effects had been ignored, the timing accuracy would have suffered to the extent of 38 microseconds per day between updates of the clock parameters. That’s a deal-breaker, considering that we expect 100-nanosecond accuracy.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 20:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:  Supposed &quot;drones&quot;

I suspect that what we are dealing with is a mixture--actual drones, but also some genuine NHI UAPs.

Regardless of this, it seems pretty obvious that the government knows what these objects are--both kinds of them--and, that, for whatever reason, it does not want to tell us what the Biden Administration knows. 

I also suspect that information to be some form of bad news and, so, the outgoing Biden Administration is just hoping it can keep us in the dark long enough for them to slither out of D.C,  leaving the incoming Trump Administration &quot;holding the bag&quot; of having to deal with this situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  Supposed &#8220;drones&#8221;</p>
<p>I suspect that what we are dealing with is a mixture&#8211;actual drones, but also some genuine NHI UAPs.</p>
<p>Regardless of this, it seems pretty obvious that the government knows what these objects are&#8211;both kinds of them&#8211;and, that, for whatever reason, it does not want to tell us what the Biden Administration knows. </p>
<p>I also suspect that information to be some form of bad news and, so, the outgoing Biden Administration is just hoping it can keep us in the dark long enough for them to slither out of D.C,  leaving the incoming Trump Administration &#8220;holding the bag&#8221; of having to deal with this situation.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/12/23/open-thread-12-23-2024/#comment-2779127</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 19:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[that doesn&#039;r seem to make sense, gravity slowing down time, isn&#039;t matter being expelled at greater and greater distance, involve centripetal forces,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that doesn&#8217;r seem to make sense, gravity slowing down time, isn&#8217;t matter being expelled at greater and greater distance, involve centripetal forces,</p>
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		By: John+Guilfoyle		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/12/23/open-thread-12-23-2024/#comment-2779125</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John+Guilfoyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 19:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From AoS... and we thought Gropey Joe was out to lunch...

https://dallasexpress.com/tarrant/exclusive-where-is-congresswoman-kay-granger/

?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From AoS&#8230; and we thought Gropey Joe was out to lunch&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="https://dallasexpress.com/tarrant/exclusive-where-is-congresswoman-kay-granger/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://dallasexpress.com/tarrant/exclusive-where-is-congresswoman-kay-granger/</a></p>
<p>?</p>
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		By: Mike Plaiss		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/12/23/open-thread-12-23-2024/#comment-2779124</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Plaiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 19:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I promise I’m not trying to monopolize today’s open thread, but I saw this on instapundit, and felt compelled to say a little something. I have no strong opinion as to whether this is correct or not, but on several occasions here I have lamented the state of scientific journalism. Half the time (at least) even in “scientific” magazines, the author gets things just wrong, or writes something extremely misleading.

https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2024/12/scientists-claim-dark-energy-does-not-exist-and-accelerated-expansion-of-universe-is-an-illusion-caused-by-gravity-slowing-down-time/

It is in that sense that I was very impressed with the article above. It is very well done and the author nails the current state of thinking on a very complex topic, and explains very well what you need to know to understand the paper. Imagine my surprise when I looked him up: 

Guillermo Carvajal. Degree in Geography and History, specialized in Art History, researcher, ex-librarian, in the blogosphere since 2005 with La Brújula Verde. I write about history, art, culture, travel, geography... Working on content and advertising for blogs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I promise I’m not trying to monopolize today’s open thread, but I saw this on instapundit, and felt compelled to say a little something. I have no strong opinion as to whether this is correct or not, but on several occasions here I have lamented the state of scientific journalism. Half the time (at least) even in “scientific” magazines, the author gets things just wrong, or writes something extremely misleading.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2024/12/scientists-claim-dark-energy-does-not-exist-and-accelerated-expansion-of-universe-is-an-illusion-caused-by-gravity-slowing-down-time/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2024/12/scientists-claim-dark-energy-does-not-exist-and-accelerated-expansion-of-universe-is-an-illusion-caused-by-gravity-slowing-down-time/</a></p>
<p>It is in that sense that I was very impressed with the article above. It is very well done and the author nails the current state of thinking on a very complex topic, and explains very well what you need to know to understand the paper. Imagine my surprise when I looked him up: </p>
<p>Guillermo Carvajal. Degree in Geography and History, specialized in Art History, researcher, ex-librarian, in the blogosphere since 2005 with La Brújula Verde. I write about history, art, culture, travel, geography&#8230; Working on content and advertising for blogs.</p>
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		By: Jon baker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/12/23/open-thread-12-23-2024/#comment-2779123</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 19:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you want to see examples of media bias by omission and few facts, compare how the mainstream media talks about the death row inmates that Biden commuted their sentences to life with articles in the New York Post website or Fox News Website. Some of these he commuted had killed multiple people. There were child killers and bank robbers who killed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to see examples of media bias by omission and few facts, compare how the mainstream media talks about the death row inmates that Biden commuted their sentences to life with articles in the New York Post website or Fox News Website. Some of these he commuted had killed multiple people. There were child killers and bank robbers who killed.</p>
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		By: Chuck		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/12/23/open-thread-12-23-2024/#comment-2779110</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 17:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That picture: ouch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That picture: ouch.</p>
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