Comments on: There’s been a shooting at a Christian school in Wisconsin [see UPDATE below]

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Wed, 18 Dec 2024 02:32:15 +0000

How’s this?
Someone under acute emotional stress–self-induced or by circumstance–can spew the hurt onto social media.
Under the Freudian safety-valve model, if it were not for social media, the person would have to spill it to the real world where somebody including parents of school folks might take note of it.
It doesn’t take much, in the early teens, to put a kid in the state that there’s no way out of the issue. And that having been raised in what is, materially, the situation where the physical world has the fewest sharp edges in history metaphorically speaking, the capacity for dealing is not exercised.
And if social media derails the usual methods of finding and getting help, even if not purposely, maybe we have an issue here.
If a counselor, or a parent, had spent sufficient time letting this kid spew, and maybe been able to fix one or another issue, possibly it would have been resolved as in earlier times.

By: om

om — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:59:22 +0000

Kate:

Agree, especially under the Brandon junta.

By: Sennacherib

Sennacherib — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 21:44:28 +0000

Like clockwork!

By: Kate

Kate — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 15:24:53 +0000

Excessive use of force by police in searches has been an ongoing problem. They needed to search the home, no question.

By: om

om — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 14:29:06 +0000

Kate:

F’en Bunch of Idiots

Well, they were probablly Christian, after all. Can’t be too careful. (sarc)

By: Kate

Kate — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:53:13 +0000

I understand the horror over this shooting. Evolving reports show a very troubled young woman.

Why did police, assisted, it seems, by FBI, find it necessary to use flashbangs and break down the door of the shooter’s home to search it? Were they threatened by a family member? Reports don’t say so.

By: SCOTTtheBADGER

SCOTTtheBADGER — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:34:09 +0000

I am going to wait to find out what Madison PD, and Dane County SO find out.

By: Richard F Cook

Richard F Cook — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 12:16:11 +0000

This was posted to x. Includes alleged photos of the shooter.

https://x.com/Slatzism/status/1868795614491800032

By: Niketas Choniates

Niketas Choniates — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:41:55 +0000

@Owen:people can (in good faith) offer speculation without commandeering the discourse

By doing so, most likely they will start looking for things to confirm their speculations, because they already have a narrative to slot potential facts into. I get that people on some level enjoy speculating about what the facts will eventually show, and that quietly waiting for facts to come out is dull by comparison, but I do think the cons of speculating outweigh the pros.

My guess is that this is happening as we speak with the drone flight story: first speculation, then people expecting to see mysterious drones, speculating about what the drones might be doing, looking for drones in the places they speculate they may find them, and then people start reporting all kinds of things as a “drone” sighting, and it may be very difficult to ever get to the truth. If it turns out that there was only, say, three real drones doing something very mundane, lots of people will refuse to believe it because so many more were reported doing all kinds of crazy stuff.

By: Owen

Owen — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 04:21:52 +0000

Neo: agree with your comment to Niketas. Our language contains a subjunctive mood —“If X were so, then maybe Y would seem possible…”. That is IMHO a rich “channel” in which people can (in good faith) offer speculation without commandeering the discourse into literal this or that.