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		By: R2L		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chases Eagles on December 10, 2024 at 3:35 pm
&quot;... printed guns are like others in they leave marks on the spent casings.&quot;
From a quick search it appears printing metals can achive 50 to 200 micron resolution (or .05 to .2 mm) [or 2 to 7 thousandths of an inch].
Is that good enough to achive respectable rifling of the weapon&#039;s barrel? Or the ID of the barrel?  Did the shooter have to get as close as he did to ensure a good hit because of mediocre rifling?

and if the comments about his back surgery and pain are valid, interesting that he shot the CEO in the back.  Was it the same relative location as for his pins?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chases Eagles on December 10, 2024 at 3:35 pm<br />
&#8220;&#8230; printed guns are like others in they leave marks on the spent casings.&#8221;<br />
From a quick search it appears printing metals can achive 50 to 200 micron resolution (or .05 to .2 mm) [or 2 to 7 thousandths of an inch].<br />
Is that good enough to achive respectable rifling of the weapon&#8217;s barrel? Or the ID of the barrel?  Did the shooter have to get as close as he did to ensure a good hit because of mediocre rifling?</p>
<p>and if the comments about his back surgery and pain are valid, interesting that he shot the CEO in the back.  Was it the same relative location as for his pins?</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 00:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;As to my imagination being real to me, assuming Dr. Deco is referring to the speculation about psychedelics, that came from elsewhere on the internet. Real? Who knows. I’m just glad that this murdering psycho is a left wing nut rather than one of ours, but qualified with the hope that his evil action doesn’t inspire others.&lt;/i&gt;
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I think it&#039;s exceedingly imprudent to make judgments on the basis of protean reports in the media, especially since the facial source is someone characterizing medical records he almost certainly hasn&#039;t seen.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As to my imagination being real to me, assuming Dr. Deco is referring to the speculation about psychedelics, that came from elsewhere on the internet. Real? Who knows. I’m just glad that this murdering psycho is a left wing nut rather than one of ours, but qualified with the hope that his evil action doesn’t inspire others.</i><br />
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I think it&#8217;s exceedingly imprudent to make judgments on the basis of protean reports in the media, especially since the facial source is someone characterizing medical records he almost certainly hasn&#8217;t seen.<br />
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 20:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Other Chuck:

As a person who suffered from serious chronic pain for over a decade, and who has much milder chronic pain now. I can say that chronic pain patients have a great deal of frustration and suffering in their lives but it is highly highly unusual to become a murderer because of it. It does indeed seem clear that something drove Mangione off the deep end (assuming of course that he&#039;s the murderer).  

Please see &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2024/12/10/luigi-mangione-bonnie-and-clyde-tsarnaev-and-raskolnikov/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;my latest post&lt;/a&gt; and especially the part on Raskolnikov.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Other Chuck:</p>
<p>As a person who suffered from serious chronic pain for over a decade, and who has much milder chronic pain now. I can say that chronic pain patients have a great deal of frustration and suffering in their lives but it is highly highly unusual to become a murderer because of it. It does indeed seem clear that something drove Mangione off the deep end (assuming of course that he&#8217;s the murderer).  </p>
<p>Please see <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2024/12/10/luigi-mangione-bonnie-and-clyde-tsarnaev-and-raskolnikov/" rel="ugc">my latest post</a> and especially the part on Raskolnikov.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 20:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anne, printed guns are like others in they leave marks on the spent casings. Archaeologists at the Little Bighorn battlefield tracked individual weapons around the field both army and Indian weapons. One section of the field is called Henryville because of all the recovered Henry shell casings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne, printed guns are like others in they leave marks on the spent casings. Archaeologists at the Little Bighorn battlefield tracked individual weapons around the field both army and Indian weapons. One section of the field is called Henryville because of all the recovered Henry shell casings.</p>
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		By: The Other Chuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 19:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reply to Dr. Art Deco.
After a surfing accident in Hawaii, according to The Sun rag in England: 

&quot;Those looking into the 26-year-old murder suspect have now claimed this serious back injury led to a worrying spiral in the last 12 months. Mangione was reportedly suffering from spondylolisthesis - an issue with the vertebra - and was given four screws placed deep into his spine to help with the pain. Former classmates of Mangione have appeared to tell reporters that the surgery went wrong and that this could have driven the Maryland man to the brink.&quot;

&quot;The botched surgery is currently one of the leading theories. Mangione is said to have moved to Japan shortly after the surfing accident and lived an almost silent life in seclusion away from family and friends. One source, quoting the former classmates, said they felt the wealthy former valedictorian turned &quot;absolutely crazy&quot; after the operation. They believe that following the ordeal, &quot;everything changed&quot; in his life, leading to him becoming a murder suspect.The theory is further supported by looking at Mangione&#039;s GoodReads history which shows multiple books on dealing with back pain.&quot;

&quot;Founder of Surfbreak in Honolulu, RJ Martin, has spoken out since Mangione was named and remembered some conversations he had with the suspect.
He said, according to the New York Times: &quot;His spine was kind of misaligned. He said his lower vertebrae were almost like a half-inch off, and I think it pinched a nerve. Sometimes he’d be doing well and other times not.&quot;

&quot;Martin, who also shared a room with the suspected masked murderer, says he had even commented on how his back stopped him from having sex. &quot;He knew that dating and being physically intimate with his back condition wasn’t possible,&quot; he said.&quot;

As to my imagination being real to me, assuming Dr. Deco is referring to the speculation about psychedelics, that came from elsewhere on the internet. Real? Who knows. I&#039;m just glad that this murdering psycho is a left wing nut rather than one of ours, but qualified with the hope that his evil action doesn&#039;t inspire others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Dr. Art Deco.<br />
After a surfing accident in Hawaii, according to The Sun rag in England: </p>
<p>&#8220;Those looking into the 26-year-old murder suspect have now claimed this serious back injury led to a worrying spiral in the last 12 months. Mangione was reportedly suffering from spondylolisthesis &#8211; an issue with the vertebra &#8211; and was given four screws placed deep into his spine to help with the pain. Former classmates of Mangione have appeared to tell reporters that the surgery went wrong and that this could have driven the Maryland man to the brink.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The botched surgery is currently one of the leading theories. Mangione is said to have moved to Japan shortly after the surfing accident and lived an almost silent life in seclusion away from family and friends. One source, quoting the former classmates, said they felt the wealthy former valedictorian turned &#8220;absolutely crazy&#8221; after the operation. They believe that following the ordeal, &#8220;everything changed&#8221; in his life, leading to him becoming a murder suspect.The theory is further supported by looking at Mangione&#8217;s GoodReads history which shows multiple books on dealing with back pain.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Founder of Surfbreak in Honolulu, RJ Martin, has spoken out since Mangione was named and remembered some conversations he had with the suspect.<br />
He said, according to the New York Times: &#8220;His spine was kind of misaligned. He said his lower vertebrae were almost like a half-inch off, and I think it pinched a nerve. Sometimes he’d be doing well and other times not.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Martin, who also shared a room with the suspected masked murderer, says he had even commented on how his back stopped him from having sex. &#8220;He knew that dating and being physically intimate with his back condition wasn’t possible,&#8221; he said.&#8221;</p>
<p>As to my imagination being real to me, assuming Dr. Deco is referring to the speculation about psychedelics, that came from elsewhere on the internet. Real? Who knows. I&#8217;m just glad that this murdering psycho is a left wing nut rather than one of ours, but qualified with the hope that his evil action doesn&#8217;t inspire others.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 18:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;his probable psychosis&lt;/i&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;That this young man had surgery leaving him without the ability to even have sex and then isolated himself in Japan for 6 months probably seeking alternative treatment including those “special” mushrooms&lt;/i&gt;
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Your imagination is quite real to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>his probable psychosis</i><br />
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<i>That this young man had surgery leaving him without the ability to even have sex and then isolated himself in Japan for 6 months probably seeking alternative treatment including those “special” mushrooms</i><br />
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Your imagination is quite real to you.</p>
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		By: The Other Chuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 17:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate (at 7:17 am) has it about right in pointing out the meds for back pain as cause of his probable psychosis. A close friend has been dealing with severe back pain for several years and is now open to about anything, even illegal drugs. She drags herself to physical therapy daily, which in itself creates almost as much pain as her spinal problems. But she&#039;s old and realizes that s... happens and deals with it with brownies and tasty cookies. Ah hem... That this young man had surgery leaving him without the ability to even have sex and then isolated himself in Japan for 6 months probably seeking alternative treatment including those &quot;special&quot; mushrooms, speaks to his desperation. It&#039;s still no excuse however. Our host has knowledge in this area as I recall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate (at 7:17 am) has it about right in pointing out the meds for back pain as cause of his probable psychosis. A close friend has been dealing with severe back pain for several years and is now open to about anything, even illegal drugs. She drags herself to physical therapy daily, which in itself creates almost as much pain as her spinal problems. But she&#8217;s old and realizes that s&#8230; happens and deals with it with brownies and tasty cookies. Ah hem&#8230; That this young man had surgery leaving him without the ability to even have sex and then isolated himself in Japan for 6 months probably seeking alternative treatment including those &#8220;special&#8221; mushrooms, speaks to his desperation. It&#8217;s still no excuse however. Our host has knowledge in this area as I recall.</p>
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		By: Dax		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 17:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;What I was driving at was &quot;moral evil.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;
Sorry, I meant &quot;moral &lt;b&gt;insanity&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What I was driving at was &#8220;moral evil.&#8221; </i><br />
Sorry, I meant &#8220;moral <b>insanity</b>.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dax		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve (retired/recovering lawyer) wrote &lt;blockquote&gt;And finally, apropos the comment that anyone who murders is “insane,” NO, NO, a THOUSAND TIMES NO! &lt;/blockquote&gt;

My comment was simplistic, so I don&#039;t really disagree with you. What I was driving at was &quot;moral evil.&quot; Insanity and evil are not mutually exclusive, but rather, closely linked. I certainly didn&#039;t mean that the accused killer wasn&#039;t evil as well as insane (despite his engineering degrees).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve (retired/recovering lawyer) wrote </p>
<blockquote><p>And finally, apropos the comment that anyone who murders is “insane,” NO, NO, a THOUSAND TIMES NO! </p></blockquote>
<p>My comment was simplistic, so I don&#8217;t really disagree with you. What I was driving at was &#8220;moral evil.&#8221; Insanity and evil are not mutually exclusive, but rather, closely linked. I certainly didn&#8217;t mean that the accused killer wasn&#8217;t evil as well as insane (despite his engineering degrees).</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 17:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the dots match enough to my satisfaction, the logic of his actions don&#039;t make any sense,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the dots match enough to my satisfaction, the logic of his actions don&#8217;t make any sense,</p>
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