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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also, another big difference- the GOP took seriously getting their voters to use mail-in-ballots this time.  One big difference I noticed immediately was that when Arizona did their counted mail-in-votes (votes counted probably the afternoon of election day that had arrived in the mail) drop a few minutes after the polls closed, Trump was much closer in that count than he was in 2020 and he quickly overtook Harris as the day of vote got counted.

I have written it before- you won&#039;t get the Democrats interested in securing mail-in-voting until the GOP drives their turnout in mail-in-vote to 100-110% of a given jurisdiction.  In other words- do exactly what it is the Democrats do.  This election was a step in that direction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, another big difference- the GOP took seriously getting their voters to use mail-in-ballots this time.  One big difference I noticed immediately was that when Arizona did their counted mail-in-votes (votes counted probably the afternoon of election day that had arrived in the mail) drop a few minutes after the polls closed, Trump was much closer in that count than he was in 2020 and he quickly overtook Harris as the day of vote got counted.</p>
<p>I have written it before- you won&#8217;t get the Democrats interested in securing mail-in-voting until the GOP drives their turnout in mail-in-vote to 100-110% of a given jurisdiction.  In other words- do exactly what it is the Democrats do.  This election was a step in that direction.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/12/05/so-what-about-those-missing-votes/#comment-2775702</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 03:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One major thing was different in this election versus 2020- in 2024 the numbers of ballots left to be counted was far more accurate in the early morning hours of the day after election day.  I followed the returns from Philadelphia County in both elections very closely on the PA Government website and in 2020 the numbers of ballots left to count never once matched 1 to 1 with what was being reported in the batches.  What I am saying is that Philadelphia County apparently lied about how many ballots were left to count the entire night and produced quite a few more votes than their &quot;ballots remaining&quot; ever once indicated.  In 2024, these numbers tracked pretty closely the entire time never once deviating by my eyeballs by more than a couple of hundred votes- in other words if Philadelphia County reported a batch of counted votes of 2500, the number of votes left to count dropped by 2500.  I am guessing the GOP worked hard to force the ballot counters to keep track of the numbers and not hide anything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One major thing was different in this election versus 2020- in 2024 the numbers of ballots left to be counted was far more accurate in the early morning hours of the day after election day.  I followed the returns from Philadelphia County in both elections very closely on the PA Government website and in 2020 the numbers of ballots left to count never once matched 1 to 1 with what was being reported in the batches.  What I am saying is that Philadelphia County apparently lied about how many ballots were left to count the entire night and produced quite a few more votes than their &#8220;ballots remaining&#8221; ever once indicated.  In 2024, these numbers tracked pretty closely the entire time never once deviating by my eyeballs by more than a couple of hundred votes- in other words if Philadelphia County reported a batch of counted votes of 2500, the number of votes left to count dropped by 2500.  I am guessing the GOP worked hard to force the ballot counters to keep track of the numbers and not hide anything.</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 03:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates - D&#039;Souza presented a documentary with inaccurate information. So inaccurate that D&#039;Souza is making a public apology, most likely at the advice of his lawyers to minimize the defamation judgement/settlement that he is about to pay. 

D&#039;Souza is claiming that True the Vote was responsible for syncing the cell phone GPS to the video. Assuming that D&#039;Souza is telling the truth, that means that True the Vote either lied about syncing the cell phone data to the videos or was so spectacularly incompetent that they allowed D&#039;Souza to release a false and defamatory video based on their work.

True the Vote was also responsible for compiling the cell phone GPS data. 

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? 

Give it up man. The dream is dead. Nothing about D&#039;Souza or True the Vote is reliable or trustworthy. This isn&#039;t a &quot;deceptive media narrative.&quot; It&#039;s just a huckster who got caught.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niketas Choniates &#8211; D&#8217;Souza presented a documentary with inaccurate information. So inaccurate that D&#8217;Souza is making a public apology, most likely at the advice of his lawyers to minimize the defamation judgement/settlement that he is about to pay. </p>
<p>D&#8217;Souza is claiming that True the Vote was responsible for syncing the cell phone GPS to the video. Assuming that D&#8217;Souza is telling the truth, that means that True the Vote either lied about syncing the cell phone data to the videos or was so spectacularly incompetent that they allowed D&#8217;Souza to release a false and defamatory video based on their work.</p>
<p>True the Vote was also responsible for compiling the cell phone GPS data. </p>
<p>Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? </p>
<p>Give it up man. The dream is dead. Nothing about D&#8217;Souza or True the Vote is reliable or trustworthy. This isn&#8217;t a &#8220;deceptive media narrative.&#8221; It&#8217;s just a huckster who got caught.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/12/05/so-what-about-those-missing-votes/#comment-2775681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 01:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@J.J. &lt;i&gt;If the GOP ever wants to be a political player in WA, we have to campaign to change the election laws.&lt;/i&gt;

As the minority they are getting what they want: pork in exchange for not rocking the boat too much. The election laws are working just fine for them and that&#039;s why you got no reply. Voters in Washington are polarized by geography; the minority candidates east of the Cascades have little to worry about and the ones west have no hope even if the elections are fair.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@J.J. <i>If the GOP ever wants to be a political player in WA, we have to campaign to change the election laws.</i></p>
<p>As the minority they are getting what they want: pork in exchange for not rocking the boat too much. The election laws are working just fine for them and that&#8217;s why you got no reply. Voters in Washington are polarized by geography; the minority candidates east of the Cascades have little to worry about and the ones west have no hope even if the elections are fair.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 00:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With the election law as it is in WA, I will be surprised if a Republican ever wins statewide office again.

All mail in ballots, registration up to election day, ballot deposit boxes all over the state, and a dodgy signature verification program. What&#039;s not to like, if you want to &quot;fortify&quot; the election?    If the GOP ever wants to be a political player in WA, we have to campaign to change the election laws.

On suggestion I would have - mail the ballots b out, but they can only be returned to polling places where registration and photo ID would be required. Additionally, registration should only be allowed up to a month before election day so the rolls could be cleaned up prior to the election. 

I sent these ideas to the GOP chairman here in the state. So far, no reply. Well, I can dream, can&#039;t I?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the election law as it is in WA, I will be surprised if a Republican ever wins statewide office again.</p>
<p>All mail in ballots, registration up to election day, ballot deposit boxes all over the state, and a dodgy signature verification program. What&#8217;s not to like, if you want to &#8220;fortify&#8221; the election?    If the GOP ever wants to be a political player in WA, we have to campaign to change the election laws.</p>
<p>On suggestion I would have &#8211; mail the ballots b out, but they can only be returned to polling places where registration and photo ID would be required. Additionally, registration should only be allowed up to a month before election day so the rolls could be cleaned up prior to the election. </p>
<p>I sent these ideas to the GOP chairman here in the state. So far, no reply. Well, I can dream, can&#8217;t I?</p>
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		By: Grandpagrumble		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 23:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So eventually we’ll discover that 81 million votes wasn’t really fraudulent at all?   Well, when that occurs, then maybe we can investigate why there are 15 “bellwether” counties that have consistently voted for the presidential winner for the past c. 40 years.   Except for 2020, when all 15 counties voted for Trump.  I’ll wait.   /SARC]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So eventually we’ll discover that 81 million votes wasn’t really fraudulent at all?   Well, when that occurs, then maybe we can investigate why there are 15 “bellwether” counties that have consistently voted for the presidential winner for the past c. 40 years.   Except for 2020, when all 15 counties voted for Trump.  I’ll wait.   /SARC</p>
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		By: Abraxas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abraxas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great clip.  It does seem like Buck Sexton could have a better show on his own, without Clay Travis.

California seems to have a &quot;keep counting votes until the Democrat wins&quot; policy.  They must have learned a lesson from Florida 2000.

I was sceptical of all the talk about the 81 million votes.  Loosen the electoral laws enough and the vote totals go up.  In 2020 Democrats did what they could to get every Democrat ballot in, even very dubious ones, but the thing to watch for wasn&#039;t the national popular vote total, but the votes in the swing states.  Such serious cheating as there was, was in that handful of states.  What happened elsewhere was gratuitous or superfluous or marginal or incidental.

The Economist is saying that &quot;Dinesh D&#039;Souza admits his documentary is fiction&quot; because some of the photos or video he was given of drivers dropping off ballots weren&#039;t of the mules who repeatedly dropped off large numbers of ballots.  Did he admit anything more than that?  I haven&#039;t heard it.  The documentary hasn&#039;t been discredited.  

I don&#039;t think very much of D&#039;Souza, though.  He seems like a shallow sensationalist to me.  He tells the right what it wants to hear, but does he put very much thought or effort into his work?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great clip.  It does seem like Buck Sexton could have a better show on his own, without Clay Travis.</p>
<p>California seems to have a &#8220;keep counting votes until the Democrat wins&#8221; policy.  They must have learned a lesson from Florida 2000.</p>
<p>I was sceptical of all the talk about the 81 million votes.  Loosen the electoral laws enough and the vote totals go up.  In 2020 Democrats did what they could to get every Democrat ballot in, even very dubious ones, but the thing to watch for wasn&#8217;t the national popular vote total, but the votes in the swing states.  Such serious cheating as there was, was in that handful of states.  What happened elsewhere was gratuitous or superfluous or marginal or incidental.</p>
<p>The Economist is saying that &#8220;Dinesh D&#8217;Souza admits his documentary is fiction&#8221; because some of the photos or video he was given of drivers dropping off ballots weren&#8217;t of the mules who repeatedly dropped off large numbers of ballots.  Did he admit anything more than that?  I haven&#8217;t heard it.  The documentary hasn&#8217;t been discredited.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think very much of D&#8217;Souza, though.  He seems like a shallow sensationalist to me.  He tells the right what it wants to hear, but does he put very much thought or effort into his work?</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/12/05/so-what-about-those-missing-votes/#comment-2775658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 23:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bauxite, thanks for an example of a deceptive media narrative. At least the Journal had the integrity to put it in &quot;Opinion&quot;. I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re trying to say about the 2020 election by linking to it without comment.

What&#039;s wrong with D&#039;Souza&#039;s movie is that he didn&#039;t necessarily get the mules on video. Notice that the opinion piece does not say there is anything wrong with the geolocation data that identified the &quot;mules&quot;. Possibly because there isn&#039;t anything wrong with it, or maybe just that the Journal has no evidence. Either way, putting a misleading narrative in Opinion is slightly better than putting it in straight news, though not much.

What&#039;s wrong with D&#039;Souza&#039;s movie, fundamentally, is what the Journal would hesitate to call attention to: that many of those &quot;mules&quot; may have been acting perfectly legally, which is the real scandal. That in too many states our election laws, by design, make fraud impossible to prevent, prove, or punish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bauxite, thanks for an example of a deceptive media narrative. At least the Journal had the integrity to put it in &#8220;Opinion&#8221;. I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re trying to say about the 2020 election by linking to it without comment.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with D&#8217;Souza&#8217;s movie is that he didn&#8217;t necessarily get the mules on video. Notice that the opinion piece does not say there is anything wrong with the geolocation data that identified the &#8220;mules&#8221;. Possibly because there isn&#8217;t anything wrong with it, or maybe just that the Journal has no evidence. Either way, putting a misleading narrative in Opinion is slightly better than putting it in straight news, though not much.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with D&#8217;Souza&#8217;s movie, fundamentally, is what the Journal would hesitate to call attention to: that many of those &#8220;mules&#8221; may have been acting perfectly legally, which is the real scandal. That in too many states our election laws, by design, make fraud impossible to prevent, prove, or punish.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 22:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BJ, 
Thomas is full of shit on that one. People prove a negative all the time. I can prove I didn’t murder that CEO and I can prove I am not dead. I would think proving a negative clears the most suspects the fastest.

They most certainly can prove the level of fraud is negligible if they want it to be. It used to be. After 2000, I was privileged to examine the voting equipment, software and all procedures for one county here in WA. Most of the deficiencies that I noted dealt with software certification.

I also reviewed the Dominion test and certification reports after 2020. They aren’t even trying beyond a Bart Simpson-nobody-saw-me-you-can’t-prove-it defense.

Back in my space program days, we had a TEMPEST facility. I was the guy that refused to let the Boeing director of Security and Fire Protection, who was escorting a DOD inspector, into my computer room because they weren’t on the access list, until their identities and clearances were verified. The inspector was mighty impressed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BJ,<br />
Thomas is full of shit on that one. People prove a negative all the time. I can prove I didn’t murder that CEO and I can prove I am not dead. I would think proving a negative clears the most suspects the fastest.</p>
<p>They most certainly can prove the level of fraud is negligible if they want it to be. It used to be. After 2000, I was privileged to examine the voting equipment, software and all procedures for one county here in WA. Most of the deficiencies that I noted dealt with software certification.</p>
<p>I also reviewed the Dominion test and certification reports after 2020. They aren’t even trying beyond a Bart Simpson-nobody-saw-me-you-can’t-prove-it defense.</p>
<p>Back in my space program days, we had a TEMPEST facility. I was the guy that refused to let the Boeing director of Security and Fire Protection, who was escorting a DOD inspector, into my computer room because they weren’t on the access list, until their identities and clearances were verified. The inspector was mighty impressed.</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 22:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco is on the right track. Anyway, there&#039;s this too: 

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/dinesh-dsouza-apologizes-2000-mules-film-2020-election-mark-andrews-donald-trump-d521033e?mod=opinion_lead_pos3

The problem with Trump is that he and his MAGA crowd tend to focus on the shiny (and often false) object while ignoring the real issue. This has the perverse effect of making the people worried about election integrity look like cranks, which only enables bad behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco is on the right track. Anyway, there&#8217;s this too: </p>
<p><a href="https://www.wsj.com/opinion/dinesh-dsouza-apologizes-2000-mules-film-2020-election-mark-andrews-donald-trump-d521033e?mod=opinion_lead_pos3" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.wsj.com/opinion/dinesh-dsouza-apologizes-2000-mules-film-2020-election-mark-andrews-donald-trump-d521033e?mod=opinion_lead_pos3</a></p>
<p>The problem with Trump is that he and his MAGA crowd tend to focus on the shiny (and often false) object while ignoring the real issue. This has the perverse effect of making the people worried about election integrity look like cranks, which only enables bad behavior.</p>
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