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		By: LXE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/30/what-is-the-legal-definition-of-a-religion/#comment-2775850</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[@om I do know about sophistry, and you are employing quite a lot of it.

Uncle Joe began as a gangster and ended as a larger-scale gangster. His chief reason to use violence was to satisfy his hunger for power. His next, to get rid of people whom he considered a threat to his power. His third, to advance a cause he pledged loyalty to (by Lenin&#039;s coffin) — to enrich the poor by expropriating and annihilating the rich, and to spread the Soviet power worldwide.

Needless to say that I endorse none of the three.
The problem is, none of the three applies to ABB. You haven&#039;t addressed his case at the slightest by invoking Stalin&#039;s.

Do you have a better argument? Or, at least, more relevant to the case?
Look, it&#039;s not as if I challenged you to prove Fermat&#039;s Grand Theorem. I am challenging you to prove a point you deem absolutely obvious, and of great importance to you.
Are you _that_ helpless?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@om I do know about sophistry, and you are employing quite a lot of it.</p>
<p>Uncle Joe began as a gangster and ended as a larger-scale gangster. His chief reason to use violence was to satisfy his hunger for power. His next, to get rid of people whom he considered a threat to his power. His third, to advance a cause he pledged loyalty to (by Lenin&#8217;s coffin) — to enrich the poor by expropriating and annihilating the rich, and to spread the Soviet power worldwide.</p>
<p>Needless to say that I endorse none of the three.<br />
The problem is, none of the three applies to ABB. You haven&#8217;t addressed his case at the slightest by invoking Stalin&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Do you have a better argument? Or, at least, more relevant to the case?<br />
Look, it&#8217;s not as if I challenged you to prove Fermat&#8217;s Grand Theorem. I am challenging you to prove a point you deem absolutely obvious, and of great importance to you.<br />
Are you _that_ helpless?</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2024 00:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LXE:

Oh, now you get to decide what is or isn&#039;t an idea.  Something about 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The best laid plans of mice and men go agley&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heard of that LEX? What comes before a plan LXE?  An idea?  You do know about sophistry?

You seem to be a person in love with his own words who  doesn&#039;t want to concede that murdering defenseless young people in mass for political (or any reason) is reprehensible.  

Your seem to have a very deep dark sense of what is morally justified.  

Making omelets and using eggs, LXE? Oh, that was another Russian.  Uncle Joe was Georgian, so he doesn&#039;t count?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LXE:</p>
<p>Oh, now you get to decide what is or isn&#8217;t an idea.  Something about </p>
<blockquote><p>The best laid plans of mice and men go agley</p></blockquote>
<p>Heard of that LEX? What comes before a plan LXE?  An idea?  You do know about sophistry?</p>
<p>You seem to be a person in love with his own words who  doesn&#8217;t want to concede that murdering defenseless young people in mass for political (or any reason) is reprehensible.  </p>
<p>Your seem to have a very deep dark sense of what is morally justified.  </p>
<p>Making omelets and using eggs, LXE? Oh, that was another Russian.  Uncle Joe was Georgian, so he doesn&#8217;t count?</p>
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		By: LXE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/30/what-is-the-legal-definition-of-a-religion/#comment-2775838</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LXE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 23:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@om
What you just described is not a good idea, first and foremost, because it&#039;s not an idea. It&#039;s an action directed at achieving a goal. Such things are called &quot;plans&quot;.

By contrast, a proposed reason *why* such a plan is good or bad may be an idea worthy of discussion, particularly in the context of the cognitive, legal and social aspects of religion.

You can, of course, say that the terribility of this plan needs no proof; that it is, so to say, axiomatically terrible. Declaring so is a right you are entitled to.

It would mean, however, that your views on morality lack any depth. Someone whose chief argument regarding the good and the evil is &quot;I feel so and so&quot; can&#039;t meaningfully object to people who feel differently — unless, of course, he uses other means to make himself a noticeable example to follow.

I invite you to make your case and explain why *you* — you specifically — deem politically motivated violence wrong.
I am moving my king&#039;s pawn from e2 to e4. Politics (as opposed to business) is proxy for legalized violence. Any political statement, other than &quot;such and such law should be repealed&quot;, aims at establishing new sufficient causes (some would say — new excuses) for violent confrontations. How would you challenge that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@om<br />
What you just described is not a good idea, first and foremost, because it&#8217;s not an idea. It&#8217;s an action directed at achieving a goal. Such things are called &#8220;plans&#8221;.</p>
<p>By contrast, a proposed reason *why* such a plan is good or bad may be an idea worthy of discussion, particularly in the context of the cognitive, legal and social aspects of religion.</p>
<p>You can, of course, say that the terribility of this plan needs no proof; that it is, so to say, axiomatically terrible. Declaring so is a right you are entitled to.</p>
<p>It would mean, however, that your views on morality lack any depth. Someone whose chief argument regarding the good and the evil is &#8220;I feel so and so&#8221; can&#8217;t meaningfully object to people who feel differently — unless, of course, he uses other means to make himself a noticeable example to follow.</p>
<p>I invite you to make your case and explain why *you* — you specifically — deem politically motivated violence wrong.<br />
I am moving my king&#8217;s pawn from e2 to e4. Politics (as opposed to business) is proxy for legalized violence. Any political statement, other than &#8220;such and such law should be repealed&#8221;, aims at establishing new sufficient causes (some would say — new excuses) for violent confrontations. How would you challenge that?</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 06:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LXE:

To be 

&lt;blockquote&gt;more successful promoting your ideas 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

consider that the idea of mass murder of unarmed political opponents isn&#039;t a good idea.

Just a thought you might consider.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LXE:</p>
<p>To be </p>
<blockquote><p>more successful promoting your ideas
</p></blockquote>
<p>consider that the idea of mass murder of unarmed political opponents isn&#8217;t a good idea.</p>
<p>Just a thought you might consider.</p>
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		By: LXE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/30/what-is-the-legal-definition-of-a-religion/#comment-2775722</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LXE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 06:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@om I can&#039;t parse your English. Perhaps I am not proficient enough in Swedish, Scottish or Irish Gaelic.

If you mean that certain people&#039;s contribution to the common welfare is negative, can&#039;t agree more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@om I can&#8217;t parse your English. Perhaps I am not proficient enough in Swedish, Scottish or Irish Gaelic.</p>
<p>If you mean that certain people&#8217;s contribution to the common welfare is negative, can&#8217;t agree more.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/30/what-is-the-legal-definition-of-a-religion/#comment-2775721</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 06:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LXE;

Homicidal ideation isn&#039;t a good thing.  

Try prayer.

Another professor, who knew?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LXE;</p>
<p>Homicidal ideation isn&#8217;t a good thing.  </p>
<p>Try prayer.</p>
<p>Another professor, who knew?</p>
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		By: LXE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/30/what-is-the-legal-definition-of-a-religion/#comment-2775720</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LXE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 06:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@om You will be more successful promoting your ideas and finding friends once you learn to address the present parties in the second person rather than the third.

Also, you would sound more convincing once you begin arguing in good faith, but I am repeating myself.

May God bless and welcome you. (If it sounds like a direct quote, it&#039;s because it is.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@om You will be more successful promoting your ideas and finding friends once you learn to address the present parties in the second person rather than the third.</p>
<p>Also, you would sound more convincing once you begin arguing in good faith, but I am repeating myself.</p>
<p>May God bless and welcome you. (If it sounds like a direct quote, it&#8217;s because it is.)</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 06:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LXE practices projection.

Sad, truly sad.

Enjoy (?) your fantasies.  Or better yet, try prayer.

Try not to be &quot;tomeish.&quot;  Counting angels dancing on pinheads has been tried.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LXE practices projection.</p>
<p>Sad, truly sad.</p>
<p>Enjoy (?) your fantasies.  Or better yet, try prayer.</p>
<p>Try not to be &#8220;tomeish.&#8221;  Counting angels dancing on pinheads has been tried.</p>
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		By: LXE		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LXE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 05:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S. @miguel
&#062; Rule by the Strong, not [merely] the Rule of Law

Exactly.
The GCD (greatest common denominator) of the pro-choice and &quot;Z&quot; ideologies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. @miguel<br />
&gt; Rule by the Strong, not [merely] the Rule of Law</p>
<p>Exactly.<br />
The GCD (greatest common denominator) of the pro-choice and &#8220;Z&#8221; ideologies.</p>
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		By: LXE		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LXE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 04:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@om you sound as if you feared the thinking process itself.
Not a big surprise to me after reading all of your comments, but maybe you should work it through with your therapist.
Somebody scared you. It must have been a while ago, so it most likely wasn&#039;t me. But now you have a trauma associated with intellectual activity, and you are building psychological defenses against it. One of them is labeling it as foreign activity beyond one&#039;s agency; there may be others.

As of myself, I side with Vyacheslav Butusov; &quot;my ideals can&#039;t hurt me, for I am the only crew they have&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@om you sound as if you feared the thinking process itself.<br />
Not a big surprise to me after reading all of your comments, but maybe you should work it through with your therapist.<br />
Somebody scared you. It must have been a while ago, so it most likely wasn&#8217;t me. But now you have a trauma associated with intellectual activity, and you are building psychological defenses against it. One of them is labeling it as foreign activity beyond one&#8217;s agency; there may be others.</p>
<p>As of myself, I side with Vyacheslav Butusov; &#8220;my ideals can&#8217;t hurt me, for I am the only crew they have&#8221;.</p>
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