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		By: Sandra		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/21/in-the-computer-age-are-objections-to-a-national-id-outdated/#comment-2773722</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2024 04:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’ve always been anti- ID number/card related to not wanting to make it easier for the system to collate data on my preferences and information. It seems inevitable that we will eventually have them as the younger generation seems to delight in sharing every aspect of their life with the universe ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve always been anti- ID number/card related to not wanting to make it easier for the system to collate data on my preferences and information. It seems inevitable that we will eventually have them as the younger generation seems to delight in sharing every aspect of their life with the universe 😉</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/21/in-the-computer-age-are-objections-to-a-national-id-outdated/#comment-2773568</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The school district that all our kids went to used SS numbers for their ID, just like everyone does now. 
It&#039;s so convenient.
One year, somebody decided it would be ultra-convenient for that ID number to be printed on their student ID cards, which they had to present to the library and the cafeteria and the whatever, and carried around on their neck on lanyards, for convenience.
I don&#039;t think I was the only parent to point out to the principal &#038; school board that having such sensitive information publicly available was NOT a good idea.

The cards were reissued with an internally produced number.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The school district that all our kids went to used SS numbers for their ID, just like everyone does now.<br />
It&#8217;s so convenient.<br />
One year, somebody decided it would be ultra-convenient for that ID number to be printed on their student ID cards, which they had to present to the library and the cafeteria and the whatever, and carried around on their neck on lanyards, for convenience.<br />
I don&#8217;t think I was the only parent to point out to the principal &amp; school board that having such sensitive information publicly available was NOT a good idea.</p>
<p>The cards were reissued with an internally produced number.</p>
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		By: Dax		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/21/in-the-computer-age-are-objections-to-a-national-id-outdated/#comment-2773431</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2024 19:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well said, Sailorcurt!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Sailorcurt!</p>
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		By: Sailorcurt		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/21/in-the-computer-age-are-objections-to-a-national-id-outdated/#comment-2773375</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sailorcurt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2024 11:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;When I was the privacy architect for Boeing, we removed SSN from the payroll system (and hundreds of other systems).&quot;

During my time in the military, they used SSN as our service ID number, so my SSN is basically on the public domain.  They&#039;re supposed to redact it in any public records but you know how well that goes.  I don&#039;t worry about it too much, pretty much the only thing I have to steal is my good name.  My credit score&#039;s been north of 800 for decades, but I keep my credit locked.  Inconvenient in the rare case I need a new loan because I have to unlock it, but it prevents anyone from taking out a loan in my name.

I&#039;m pretty sure the military has switched to a separate ID number.  At least they have for retirees...I assume they have for active duty as well...for that very reason.

&quot;National voting ID is essential.&quot;

I disagree.  I think it can be managed best at the state level, but there should be federal oversight to ensure that the ID and voter integrity laws in the state meet a minimum standard and that they&#039;re enforced.  National ID opens a whole new avenue for abuse when the Good Guys are not in power.

&quot;And only if every vote you cast .gives you and only you the power to check your vote and how it was counted&quot;

I like your idea in principle; I&#039;d like to be able to check after I cast my vote and make sure it was counted and counted correctly.  Unfortunately there is no way to ever guarantee that you&#039;d be the only one able to access it.  If it&#039;s stored somewhere, whether physically or digitally, it can be accessed.  There is no such thing as an un-hackable computer or unbreakable encryption.

How long would it be before everyone&#039;s voting records were published on Tik-Tok or Instagram?

I&#039;m pretty open about my political affiliation, but I&#039;ve got 21 years of military experience and a safe full of guns to back me up.  Picture a couple of burly men knocking on the door of a grandma&#039;s house, telling her &quot;we&#039;re from the democrat voting assurance committee, we see you usually cast your vote for the other guy so we just wanted to make sure you&#039;re safe and don&#039;t feel threatened or anything, because we&#039;ve heard that people who vote like you have had bad things happen to them.  It&#039;d be a shame if your house burned down in the middle of the night, wouldn&#039;t it?&quot;

Even discounting that extreme, the really vulnerable people are the ones who live in democrat strongholds but vote republican.  Imagine the reaction if all their neighbors, employer and co-workers found out that they voted for [GASP] &lt;i&gt;literally Hitler&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When I was the privacy architect for Boeing, we removed SSN from the payroll system (and hundreds of other systems).&#8221;</p>
<p>During my time in the military, they used SSN as our service ID number, so my SSN is basically on the public domain.  They&#8217;re supposed to redact it in any public records but you know how well that goes.  I don&#8217;t worry about it too much, pretty much the only thing I have to steal is my good name.  My credit score&#8217;s been north of 800 for decades, but I keep my credit locked.  Inconvenient in the rare case I need a new loan because I have to unlock it, but it prevents anyone from taking out a loan in my name.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure the military has switched to a separate ID number.  At least they have for retirees&#8230;I assume they have for active duty as well&#8230;for that very reason.</p>
<p>&#8220;National voting ID is essential.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree.  I think it can be managed best at the state level, but there should be federal oversight to ensure that the ID and voter integrity laws in the state meet a minimum standard and that they&#8217;re enforced.  National ID opens a whole new avenue for abuse when the Good Guys are not in power.</p>
<p>&#8220;And only if every vote you cast .gives you and only you the power to check your vote and how it was counted&#8221;</p>
<p>I like your idea in principle; I&#8217;d like to be able to check after I cast my vote and make sure it was counted and counted correctly.  Unfortunately there is no way to ever guarantee that you&#8217;d be the only one able to access it.  If it&#8217;s stored somewhere, whether physically or digitally, it can be accessed.  There is no such thing as an un-hackable computer or unbreakable encryption.</p>
<p>How long would it be before everyone&#8217;s voting records were published on Tik-Tok or Instagram?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty open about my political affiliation, but I&#8217;ve got 21 years of military experience and a safe full of guns to back me up.  Picture a couple of burly men knocking on the door of a grandma&#8217;s house, telling her &#8220;we&#8217;re from the democrat voting assurance committee, we see you usually cast your vote for the other guy so we just wanted to make sure you&#8217;re safe and don&#8217;t feel threatened or anything, because we&#8217;ve heard that people who vote like you have had bad things happen to them.  It&#8217;d be a shame if your house burned down in the middle of the night, wouldn&#8217;t it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Even discounting that extreme, the really vulnerable people are the ones who live in democrat strongholds but vote republican.  Imagine the reaction if all their neighbors, employer and co-workers found out that they voted for [GASP] <i>literally Hitler</i>.</p>
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		By: Dax		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/21/in-the-computer-age-are-objections-to-a-national-id-outdated/#comment-2773332</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Technology can be wonderful, but, like the humans who create and use it, it is inherently corruptible. Our country is in danger of fracturing, due to the corruption of our people (citizens and non-citizens.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology can be wonderful, but, like the humans who create and use it, it is inherently corruptible. Our country is in danger of fracturing, due to the corruption of our people (citizens and non-citizens.)</p>
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		By: JackWayne		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/21/in-the-computer-age-are-objections-to-a-national-id-outdated/#comment-2773325</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JackWayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2024 02:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[National voting ID is essential. And only if every vote you cast gives you and only you the power to check your vote and how it was counted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National voting ID is essential. And only if every vote you cast gives you and only you the power to check your vote and how it was counted.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/21/in-the-computer-age-are-objections-to-a-national-id-outdated/#comment-2773304</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chases Eagles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2024 01:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I was the privacy architect for Boeing, we removed SSN from the payroll system (and hundreds of other systems). SSN is added to the tax file in a secure environment right before it shipped to the tax processor. The only systems that kept SSN were secure systems like the finger print system.

If you are non-Boeing person passing by one of the main Boeing plants and have a medical emergency and ask the gate guard for help, Boeing doctors and nurses will tend to you until you can be transferred. You will be issued a unique Boeing ID for the Boeing medical system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was the privacy architect for Boeing, we removed SSN from the payroll system (and hundreds of other systems). SSN is added to the tax file in a secure environment right before it shipped to the tax processor. The only systems that kept SSN were secure systems like the finger print system.</p>
<p>If you are non-Boeing person passing by one of the main Boeing plants and have a medical emergency and ask the gate guard for help, Boeing doctors and nurses will tend to you until you can be transferred. You will be issued a unique Boeing ID for the Boeing medical system.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Sells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 23:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As to the film clip: heh... whoopsie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the film clip: heh&#8230; whoopsie.</p>
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		By: Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/21/in-the-computer-age-are-objections-to-a-national-id-outdated/#comment-2773280</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve (retired/recovering lawyer)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 22:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know, a National ID card sounds like a pretty good idea, especially if we go to a  cashless society.  After all, what harm could come from requiring people to have and exhibit on request some papers?  That should certainly cut down on the problem of illegal migrants living here  And when you buy something, all you have to do is show the ID card--you know, just to prove that you&#039;re who you say you are--and swipe your card.  Voila!  Transaction completed.  Next thing you know, we&#039;ll be able to accomplish the very same thing with something like a chip under the skin. 
Now that&#039;s convenience!  What&#039;s that you say?  Mark of The Beast?  What&#039;s that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, a National ID card sounds like a pretty good idea, especially if we go to a  cashless society.  After all, what harm could come from requiring people to have and exhibit on request some papers?  That should certainly cut down on the problem of illegal migrants living here  And when you buy something, all you have to do is show the ID card&#8211;you know, just to prove that you&#8217;re who you say you are&#8211;and swipe your card.  Voila!  Transaction completed.  Next thing you know, we&#8217;ll be able to accomplish the very same thing with something like a chip under the skin.<br />
Now that&#8217;s convenience!  What&#8217;s that you say?  Mark of The Beast?  What&#8217;s that?</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/21/in-the-computer-age-are-objections-to-a-national-id-outdated/#comment-2773271</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 22:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[However slight, nothing that further enables tyranny can be condoned, so not only no but Hell No.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However slight, nothing that further enables tyranny can be condoned, so not only no but Hell No.</p>
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