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		By: Cappy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/20/theres-never-any-election-fraud-except-when-there-is/#comment-2773398</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2024 14:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A fiery, but mostly peaceful crowd.]]></description>
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		By: Dax		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/20/theres-never-any-election-fraud-except-when-there-is/#comment-2773105</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 04:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;She should be fired or resign.&quot;

&quot;She should go to prison.&quot;

&quot;She should be prosecuted.&quot;

&quot;Prison for the perpetrators.&quot;

Could we bring back &quot;the stocks&quot; (an instrument of punishment consisting of a heavy wooden frame with holes in which the feet, hands, or head of an offender were locked)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She should be fired or resign.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;She should go to prison.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;She should be prosecuted.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Prison for the perpetrators.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could we bring back &#8220;the stocks&#8221; (an instrument of punishment consisting of a heavy wooden frame with holes in which the feet, hands, or head of an offender were locked)?</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 03:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently Bucks County residents don&#039;t like being played for fools. From Hot Air: &lt;a href=&quot;https://dailycaller.com/2024/11/20/irate-citizens-bucks-county-commissioners-deficient-ballots-election-law-pennsylvania/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;‘Corrupt Tyrants’: Irate Citizens Skewer Bucks County Commissioners For Flagrantly Violating Election Law.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Bucks County residents don&#8217;t like being played for fools. From Hot Air: <a href="https://dailycaller.com/2024/11/20/irate-citizens-bucks-county-commissioners-deficient-ballots-election-law-pennsylvania/" rel="nofollow ugc">‘Corrupt Tyrants’: Irate Citizens Skewer Bucks County Commissioners For Flagrantly Violating Election Law.</a></p>
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		By: Wendy+Laubach		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy+Laubach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 02:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I apologize, and I will stay in my cushy job until you get it together to vote me out.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I apologize, and I will stay in my cushy job until you get it together to vote me out.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 02:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beware of any claim  that emotion was behind what someone said or did. AKA, the &quot;my heart was in the right place&quot; argument. Such justification is usually nonsense.&lt;blockquote&gt;“The passion in my heart got the best of me and I apologize again for that,” Bucks County Commissioner Diane Ellis-Marseglia said in front of a fiery crowd at a county meeting.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Her &quot;passion&quot; was not to be the best public official she could be, by following the law and listening to her constituents. Her &quot;passion&quot; was to tilt the scales so that her side could win. That is not &quot;passion,&quot; but a coldly rational decision that defying the law could help her side win.

BTW, Bucks County was closely contested. Trump won Bucks County by less than 300 votes out of nearly 400,000 votes, a margin of 0.07%, which may indicate why she wanted to tilt the scales.

For another example using emotion to try to justify  an act, a consider a  recent CT story.  A special ed teacher resigned due to outrage over a video she posted about putting Trump supporters &quot;on a stretcher,  gone forever.&quot; 

&lt;a href=&quot;https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/11/connecticut-teacher-who-resigned-after-threatening-trump-voters-tears-up-in-media-interview/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; Connecticut Teacher Who Resigned After Threatening Trump Voters Tears Up in Media Interview&lt;/a&gt;   
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;A special education teacher in Connecticut has resigned after a viral video surfaced of her going on a rant and threatening violence and harm to supporters of President-elect Trump….
“Just because you won doesn’t mean we don’t remember who the f— you voted for,” Dunleavy says in the social media clip. “Please don’t test your gangster on me because you will end on a stretcher, gone forever. So serious.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

After she resigned, a local TV station interviewed her, where she tried to justify her act  by talking about emotion, to show that her heart was in the right place.
&lt;blockquote&gt;“I was in a moment of high emotion, and I shouldn’t have posted,” Dunleavy told the news station in an exclusive interview. “The message came off wrong, which was if this is going to give people the permission in their minds to enact violence against women, I wanted to say, I’m not going down without a fight.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The issue was not just &lt;i&gt;“a moment of high emotion.”&lt;/i&gt; The issue was her inability to think, her inability to reason. 

Q.Who the heck believes the nonsense that Trump’s winning the election would &lt;i&gt;“give people the permission in their minds to enact violence against women?”&lt;/i&gt;

A. Someone who unhesitatingly believes whatever the MSM and the Demos say about Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beware of any claim  that emotion was behind what someone said or did. AKA, the &#8220;my heart was in the right place&#8221; argument. Such justification is usually nonsense.</p>
<blockquote><p>“The passion in my heart got the best of me and I apologize again for that,” Bucks County Commissioner Diane Ellis-Marseglia said in front of a fiery crowd at a county meeting.</p></blockquote>
<p> Her &#8220;passion&#8221; was not to be the best public official she could be, by following the law and listening to her constituents. Her &#8220;passion&#8221; was to tilt the scales so that her side could win. That is not &#8220;passion,&#8221; but a coldly rational decision that defying the law could help her side win.</p>
<p>BTW, Bucks County was closely contested. Trump won Bucks County by less than 300 votes out of nearly 400,000 votes, a margin of 0.07%, which may indicate why she wanted to tilt the scales.</p>
<p>For another example using emotion to try to justify  an act, a consider a  recent CT story.  A special ed teacher resigned due to outrage over a video she posted about putting Trump supporters &#8220;on a stretcher,  gone forever.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/11/connecticut-teacher-who-resigned-after-threatening-trump-voters-tears-up-in-media-interview/" rel="nofollow ugc"> Connecticut Teacher Who Resigned After Threatening Trump Voters Tears Up in Media Interview</a>   </p>
<blockquote><p>A special education teacher in Connecticut has resigned after a viral video surfaced of her going on a rant and threatening violence and harm to supporters of President-elect Trump….<br />
“Just because you won doesn’t mean we don’t remember who the f— you voted for,” Dunleavy says in the social media clip. “Please don’t test your gangster on me because you will end on a stretcher, gone forever. So serious.” </p></blockquote>
<p>After she resigned, a local TV station interviewed her, where she tried to justify her act  by talking about emotion, to show that her heart was in the right place.</p>
<blockquote><p>“I was in a moment of high emotion, and I shouldn’t have posted,” Dunleavy told the news station in an exclusive interview. “The message came off wrong, which was if this is going to give people the permission in their minds to enact violence against women, I wanted to say, I’m not going down without a fight.</p></blockquote>
<p>The issue was not just <i>“a moment of high emotion.”</i> The issue was her inability to think, her inability to reason. </p>
<p>Q.Who the heck believes the nonsense that Trump’s winning the election would <i>“give people the permission in their minds to enact violence against women?”</i></p>
<p>A. Someone who unhesitatingly believes whatever the MSM and the Demos say about Trump.</p>
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		By: Niketas Choniates		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niketas Choniates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 22:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dems always have a mandate. Republicans are always warned against overreaching and toward bipartisanship.

Sen Schumer, on his way out, had this to say:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Another closely contested election now comes to an end. To my Republican colleagues, I offer a word of caution in good faith: Take care not to misread the will of the people, and do not abandon the need for bipartisanship. After winning an election, the temptation may be to go to the extreme. We’ve seen that happen over the decades, and it has consistently backfired on the party in power. So, instead of going to the extremes, I remind my colleagues that this body is most effective when it’s bipartisan. &lt;b&gt;If we want the next four years in the Senate to be as productive as the last four&lt;/b&gt;, the only way that will happen is through bipartisan cooperation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;As productive as the last four&quot; years was, for Chuck Schumer. Thanks, Senate Republicans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dems always have a mandate. Republicans are always warned against overreaching and toward bipartisanship.</p>
<p>Sen Schumer, on his way out, had this to say:</p>
<blockquote><p>Another closely contested election now comes to an end. To my Republican colleagues, I offer a word of caution in good faith: Take care not to misread the will of the people, and do not abandon the need for bipartisanship. After winning an election, the temptation may be to go to the extreme. We’ve seen that happen over the decades, and it has consistently backfired on the party in power. So, instead of going to the extremes, I remind my colleagues that this body is most effective when it’s bipartisan. <b>If we want the next four years in the Senate to be as productive as the last four</b>, the only way that will happen is through bipartisan cooperation.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;As productive as the last four&#8221; years was, for Chuck Schumer. Thanks, Senate Republicans.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 21:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People are unfairly holding Ellis-Marseglia to a &quot;far higher standard,&quot; all because of her passion.  And what could be more genuine and important than a person&#039;s passions?  Pay no attention to the corrupt use of power in the &quot;I&#039;m taking what I want&quot; aspect of it.  What a giant load of BS!  Yes, prosecute.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are unfairly holding Ellis-Marseglia to a &#8220;far higher standard,&#8221; all because of her passion.  And what could be more genuine and important than a person&#8217;s passions?  Pay no attention to the corrupt use of power in the &#8220;I&#8217;m taking what I want&#8221; aspect of it.  What a giant load of BS!  Yes, prosecute.</p>
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		By: John+Guilfoyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John+Guilfoyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 21:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah...so tell me again how 2020 was totes legit. Prison for the perpetrators. No other solution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;so tell me again how 2020 was totes legit. Prison for the perpetrators. No other solution.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/20/theres-never-any-election-fraud-except-when-there-is/#comment-2773030</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 21:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump still has 2.5 million more votes than Harris, in spite of California.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump still has 2.5 million more votes than Harris, in spite of California.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 21:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Leland:

I guess Bill Clinton didn&#039;t have a mandate either.  Pity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leland:</p>
<p>I guess Bill Clinton didn&#8217;t have a mandate either.  Pity.</p>
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