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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2024 23:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Banned Lizard &#062; &quot;See also The RFK Jr. Tapes in Tablet.&quot;

If you see this note, I just wanted to thank you for the link.
That was a fantastic article!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Banned Lizard &gt; &#8220;See also The RFK Jr. Tapes in Tablet.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you see this note, I just wanted to thank you for the link.<br />
That was a fantastic article!</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Correction: Instead of “subsequently exonerated” let’s try “subsequently vindicated”…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: Instead of “subsequently exonerated” let’s try “subsequently vindicated”…</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, RFK Jr. has baggage, unfortunately, but I think he was generally spot on WRT to Covid, which was a sophisticated, multi-level scandal, right up there with other Democratic Party criminal efforts of the past 15 years. RFK could benefit from strong backup. 

To this end I would hope that Trump could bring back Scott Atlas, at least in some kind of role. 
He’s experienced; he has integrity; and his warnings, prescriptions and suggestions WRT Covid turned out to be correct and judicious, and would have saved lives and returned the lives of the citizenry to some kind of normalcy. 

Of course, the depraved Democrats couldn’t have that. Nor could the devious pharmaceuticals. 

And so Atlas took a lot of crap from those Democratic Party thugs and their media groupies when he took on that psycho Fauci about things on which Atlas has been subsequently exonerated. 

So who knows if he even wants to get involved in that character assassination racket again…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, RFK Jr. has baggage, unfortunately, but I think he was generally spot on WRT to Covid, which was a sophisticated, multi-level scandal, right up there with other Democratic Party criminal efforts of the past 15 years. RFK could benefit from strong backup. </p>
<p>To this end I would hope that Trump could bring back Scott Atlas, at least in some kind of role.<br />
He’s experienced; he has integrity; and his warnings, prescriptions and suggestions WRT Covid turned out to be correct and judicious, and would have saved lives and returned the lives of the citizenry to some kind of normalcy. </p>
<p>Of course, the depraved Democrats couldn’t have that. Nor could the devious pharmaceuticals. </p>
<p>And so Atlas took a lot of crap from those Democratic Party thugs and their media groupies when he took on that psycho Fauci about things on which Atlas has been subsequently exonerated. </p>
<p>So who knows if he even wants to get involved in that character assassination racket again…</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[See also &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/robert-f-kennedy-jr-interview-david-samuels&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The RFK Jr. Tapes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in Tablet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also <a href="https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/robert-f-kennedy-jr-interview-david-samuels" rel="nofollow ugc"><b>The RFK Jr. Tapes</b></a> in Tablet.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ The Other Chuck &#062; &quot;The system that allowed this to happen needs to be disassembled and, in my belief, Kennedy is the hammer that can achieve it.&quot;

I was not aware of Fauci&#039;s involvement in the AIDS programs, but once that information came out during Covid, my biggest question was about how he could not only NOT be fired, but was promoted and enriched.


Or, to quote from that general era, &quot;If I had a hammer, I&#039;d hammer in the morning, I&#039;d hammer in the evening&quot; all over the CDC.

The corruption in the health industry needs serious hammering, and I doubt even 4 years would be long enough without a DOJ that would roll out an entire department devoted just to prosecuting the criminal activity in that field.

And anything not criminal was unethical.
I don&#039;t see how anyone in the Deep State or Bloated Bureaucracies can criticize Gaetz or any other Trump nominee with a straight face.

h/t Liz &quot;tomorrow&quot; for this post by VD Hanson.
https://x.com/VDHanson/status/1857579416471372198]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ The Other Chuck &gt; &#8220;The system that allowed this to happen needs to be disassembled and, in my belief, Kennedy is the hammer that can achieve it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was not aware of Fauci&#8217;s involvement in the AIDS programs, but once that information came out during Covid, my biggest question was about how he could not only NOT be fired, but was promoted and enriched.</p>
<p>Or, to quote from that general era, &#8220;If I had a hammer, I&#8217;d hammer in the morning, I&#8217;d hammer in the evening&#8221; all over the CDC.</p>
<p>The corruption in the health industry needs serious hammering, and I doubt even 4 years would be long enough without a DOJ that would roll out an entire department devoted just to prosecuting the criminal activity in that field.</p>
<p>And anything not criminal was unethical.<br />
I don&#8217;t see how anyone in the Deep State or Bloated Bureaucracies can criticize Gaetz or any other Trump nominee with a straight face.</p>
<p>h/t Liz &#8220;tomorrow&#8221; for this post by VD Hanson.<br />
<a href="https://x.com/VDHanson/status/1857579416471372198" rel="nofollow ugc">https://x.com/VDHanson/status/1857579416471372198</a></p>
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		By: The Other Chuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2024 22:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I believe the overall accuracy of RFK Jr.&#039;s book is good there could be errors which hopefully are not intentional. I certainly did not go down the rabbit hole and check out every reference let alone the accuracy of every quote while reading it. The Covid section was written during and shortly after the vaccine was being distributed in 2021, so it would not be surprising if there was sloppy editing while the book was being rushed to print. However, the extensive section on Fauci&#039;s involvement with the AIDs epidemic was a real eye opener. As a gay man, I lived through that watching friends suffer and die while taking AZT. To say I have intimate and extensive knowledge acquired over a 40 year span is an understatement. We were led to believe that Anthony Fauci was a kind of savior. Kennedy&#039;s exposé in this book demolished that completely, and in the process cast doubt on his entire career including and especially this Covid fiasco. If you add in the royalty payments, the huge network of pharmaceutical lobbyists, and the circumventing of gain-of-function controls by Fauci, the picture emerges of a totally corrupt, and (no other word describes him accurately) evil man. The system that allowed this to happen needs to be disassembled and, in my belief, Kennedy is the hammer that can achieve it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I believe the overall accuracy of RFK Jr.&#8217;s book is good there could be errors which hopefully are not intentional. I certainly did not go down the rabbit hole and check out every reference let alone the accuracy of every quote while reading it. The Covid section was written during and shortly after the vaccine was being distributed in 2021, so it would not be surprising if there was sloppy editing while the book was being rushed to print. However, the extensive section on Fauci&#8217;s involvement with the AIDs epidemic was a real eye opener. As a gay man, I lived through that watching friends suffer and die while taking AZT. To say I have intimate and extensive knowledge acquired over a 40 year span is an understatement. We were led to believe that Anthony Fauci was a kind of savior. Kennedy&#8217;s exposé in this book demolished that completely, and in the process cast doubt on his entire career including and especially this Covid fiasco. If you add in the royalty payments, the huge network of pharmaceutical lobbyists, and the circumventing of gain-of-function controls by Fauci, the picture emerges of a totally corrupt, and (no other word describes him accurately) evil man. The system that allowed this to happen needs to be disassembled and, in my belief, Kennedy is the hammer that can achieve it.</p>
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		By: Paul Nachman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Nachman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2024 20:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Other Chuck&quot; thinks the problems with RFK Jr.&#039;s book pointed out by Dalrymple are &quot;editing problems.&quot;  Uh uh.  Choose five references in the book  &lt;b&gt;at random&lt;/b&gt; and find a misrepresentation in each one ... then we&#039;re talking big-time sloppiness or even dishonesty.

Chuck, who&#039;s apparently read the book (I haven&#039;t), should actually follow up on a few of those &quot;hundreds and hundreds of references and quotes&quot; as Dalrymple did: Do the ones Chuck samples actually say what Kennedy attributes to them?

I hope RFK Jr. is confirmed, and does a great job.  I admire his passion.  But the problems with his book are a warning that he may let his passions get out of control and, in his enthusiasm, do something that blows up in his face ... to the detriment of the cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Other Chuck&#8221; thinks the problems with RFK Jr.&#8217;s book pointed out by Dalrymple are &#8220;editing problems.&#8221;  Uh uh.  Choose five references in the book  <b>at random</b> and find a misrepresentation in each one &#8230; then we&#8217;re talking big-time sloppiness or even dishonesty.</p>
<p>Chuck, who&#8217;s apparently read the book (I haven&#8217;t), should actually follow up on a few of those &#8220;hundreds and hundreds of references and quotes&#8221; as Dalrymple did: Do the ones Chuck samples actually say what Kennedy attributes to them?</p>
<p>I hope RFK Jr. is confirmed, and does a great job.  I admire his passion.  But the problems with his book are a warning that he may let his passions get out of control and, in his enthusiasm, do something that blows up in his face &#8230; to the detriment of the cause.</p>
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		By: The Other Chuck		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2024 18:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RFK&#039;s book on Fauci is nothing less than an indictment of the entire govermnet/pharmaceutical research complex and exposes its utter corruption. My first knowledge of problems there was Dr. Robert Gallo&#039;s false claim of discovering the AID&#039;s virus back in the 80&#039;s. After reading Kennedy&#039;s book that notorious incident appears as just a tiny harbinger of much, much worse to come. If the book has a few erroneous references, so what? The overall accuracy is backed up by hundreds and hundreds of references and quotes rarely seen in a book for popular consumption. Now if Kennedy was writing a doctoral thesis maybe Dalrymple&#039;s &quot;gotchas&quot;  would have some real merit. We&#039;re talking editing problems, not purposeful deceit - that would be the entire NIH complex of kickbacks, backscratching, and incompetence. 

Robert Kennedy, Jr. is the perfect guy to take on and hopefully break up this government evil black hole of corruption.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RFK&#8217;s book on Fauci is nothing less than an indictment of the entire govermnet/pharmaceutical research complex and exposes its utter corruption. My first knowledge of problems there was Dr. Robert Gallo&#8217;s false claim of discovering the AID&#8217;s virus back in the 80&#8217;s. After reading Kennedy&#8217;s book that notorious incident appears as just a tiny harbinger of much, much worse to come. If the book has a few erroneous references, so what? The overall accuracy is backed up by hundreds and hundreds of references and quotes rarely seen in a book for popular consumption. Now if Kennedy was writing a doctoral thesis maybe Dalrymple&#8217;s &#8220;gotchas&#8221;  would have some real merit. We&#8217;re talking editing problems, not purposeful deceit &#8211; that would be the entire NIH complex of kickbacks, backscratching, and incompetence. </p>
<p>Robert Kennedy, Jr. is the perfect guy to take on and hopefully break up this government evil black hole of corruption.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2024 16:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo.
Wrt autism:  I know about Wakefield.  Talked to a young woman in the field of scientific journalism.  I believe they think they learned a lesson.  We&#039;ll see.  Lancet took a hit on that one, but until they found out they&#039;d been hosed, it was SCIENCE and you denied SCIENCE at your peril.  Until it wasn&#039;t, and the latter rarely makes the papers.
This got extra acceleration due to the terror of the result, and because a morning talk show host made it her crusade.
But, as I say, people want to see a cause, whether the boffins have found one or not, and if not...maybe the people will make one up.  Because a cause is needed.  And   Wakefield filled a need.
I would suggest that the peanut allergy issue added to it.  Not because of a connection, but because....it wasn&#039;t a thing and now it is and nobody knows why or what to do about it.  Stuff just....happens and why not something besides peanuts?

So we come to Covid....  And Covid didn&#039;t just have a Wakefield, but entire governments.  Censoring, lying, withholding.  Fudging numbers.

So, &#039;Tell me what to do!&quot;   &quot;Make me do something!&quot;  &quot;Make everybody do something!&quot;

The vax was pure gold.  Couldn&#039;t miss and you were a failed shaman if you doubted.  The stuff was issued under an Emergency Use Authorization, which, among other things, said that if there were an effective therapeutic, the ERA was void. IOW, if we could reliably and consistently treat anyone with the Covid, the better path was to let it run through the population as opposed to shooting people up with this untried compound.  
No such therapeutic was visible, unless some reports of success with HCQ managed to pass the censors.  So...nobody knows or knew.

To put it another way, the autism/vaccine issue, and the entire Covid phenomenon were gigantic social and cultural demonstrations of...what can happen.  And the governments know how to do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo.<br />
Wrt autism:  I know about Wakefield.  Talked to a young woman in the field of scientific journalism.  I believe they think they learned a lesson.  We&#8217;ll see.  Lancet took a hit on that one, but until they found out they&#8217;d been hosed, it was SCIENCE and you denied SCIENCE at your peril.  Until it wasn&#8217;t, and the latter rarely makes the papers.<br />
This got extra acceleration due to the terror of the result, and because a morning talk show host made it her crusade.<br />
But, as I say, people want to see a cause, whether the boffins have found one or not, and if not&#8230;maybe the people will make one up.  Because a cause is needed.  And   Wakefield filled a need.<br />
I would suggest that the peanut allergy issue added to it.  Not because of a connection, but because&#8230;.it wasn&#8217;t a thing and now it is and nobody knows why or what to do about it.  Stuff just&#8230;.happens and why not something besides peanuts?</p>
<p>So we come to Covid&#8230;.  And Covid didn&#8217;t just have a Wakefield, but entire governments.  Censoring, lying, withholding.  Fudging numbers.</p>
<p>So, &#8216;Tell me what to do!&#8221;   &#8220;Make me do something!&#8221;  &#8220;Make everybody do something!&#8221;</p>
<p>The vax was pure gold.  Couldn&#8217;t miss and you were a failed shaman if you doubted.  The stuff was issued under an Emergency Use Authorization, which, among other things, said that if there were an effective therapeutic, the ERA was void. IOW, if we could reliably and consistently treat anyone with the Covid, the better path was to let it run through the population as opposed to shooting people up with this untried compound.<br />
No such therapeutic was visible, unless some reports of success with HCQ managed to pass the censors.  So&#8230;nobody knows or knew.</p>
<p>To put it another way, the autism/vaccine issue, and the entire Covid phenomenon were gigantic social and cultural demonstrations of&#8230;what can happen.  And the governments know how to do it.</p>
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		By: Paul Nachman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2024 09:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In considering RFK Jr., I was impressed by Theodore Dalrymple&#039;s take on Kennedy&#039;s book about Fauci in the &lt;b&gt;Claremont Review&lt;/b&gt;.  It includes this:

&lt;i&gt;When I looked up at random five of the medical papers Kennedy cites, I found that he had misrepresented all of them. For example, an Argentinian trial which he describes as randomized and controlled specifically says in its text that it was unrandomized. In another instance, he claims “[t]he UK government’s latest Office for National Statistics report on mortality rates by COVID vaccination status shows that for age-adjusted mortality rate, the death rate by October was higher among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.” This is misleading. There are only numbers, no rates: Kennedy evidently believes in numerators without denominators. Furthermore, the age-adjustment to which he refers was not exactly fine-honed: it divided the population into those under 50 and those over 50. This is important, given the age distribution of risk of death. ... &lt;/i&gt;

https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/whats-up-doc/

&quot;Dalrymple&quot; is the pen name of Manhattan Institute fellow Anthony Daniels, whose career largely as a physician in British prisons has been eclipsed by subsequent decades of memorable commentary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In considering RFK Jr., I was impressed by Theodore Dalrymple&#8217;s take on Kennedy&#8217;s book about Fauci in the <b>Claremont Review</b>.  It includes this:</p>
<p><i>When I looked up at random five of the medical papers Kennedy cites, I found that he had misrepresented all of them. For example, an Argentinian trial which he describes as randomized and controlled specifically says in its text that it was unrandomized. In another instance, he claims “[t]he UK government’s latest Office for National Statistics report on mortality rates by COVID vaccination status shows that for age-adjusted mortality rate, the death rate by October was higher among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.” This is misleading. There are only numbers, no rates: Kennedy evidently believes in numerators without denominators. Furthermore, the age-adjustment to which he refers was not exactly fine-honed: it divided the population into those under 50 and those over 50. This is important, given the age distribution of risk of death. &#8230; </i></p>
<p><a href="https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/whats-up-doc/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/whats-up-doc/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Dalrymple&#8221; is the pen name of Manhattan Institute fellow Anthony Daniels, whose career largely as a physician in British prisons has been eclipsed by subsequent decades of memorable commentary.</p>
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