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		By: Gordon Scott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Scott]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Hochul, Whitmer, Pritziker, Newsome saying they will protect &quot;our&quot; illegals. Starting Jan 21, no federal aid. None.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Hochul, Whitmer, Pritziker, Newsome saying they will protect &#8220;our&#8221; illegals. Starting Jan 21, no federal aid. None.</p>
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		By: Sennacherib		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sennacherib]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 21:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco,
 They survived a Civil War where they were effectively traitors, they will survive this, but what they cannot survive is being boring, stale, and so last century.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco,<br />
 They survived a Civil War where they were effectively traitors, they will survive this, but what they cannot survive is being boring, stale, and so last century.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 20:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;and for roughly two hundred years before that, there was no official federal policy on any of them.&lt;/i&gt;
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I think from about 1917 if not earlier sodomy was grounds for discharge from the service.  There were some policies in re federal employment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>and for roughly two hundred years before that, there was no official federal policy on any of them.</i><br />
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I think from about 1917 if not earlier sodomy was grounds for discharge from the service.  There were some policies in re federal employment.</p>
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		By: richf		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 20:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...Nobody is thinking about abortion, transgender individuals, and homosexuality when they are struggling to afford groceries and gas...&quot;
I&#039;m old enough to remember when most people never thought very much about those issues; when I first started voting, and for roughly two hundred years before that, there was no official federal policy on any of them. Probably the majority of voters opposed all three, but didn&#039;t think that they were important enough to pass federal laws about them.
It was the left who decided that these were important issues, because they needed something to campaign on. Now they&#039;re complaining about losing a Culture War that they started in the first place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Nobody is thinking about abortion, transgender individuals, and homosexuality when they are struggling to afford groceries and gas&#8230;&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m old enough to remember when most people never thought very much about those issues; when I first started voting, and for roughly two hundred years before that, there was no official federal policy on any of them. Probably the majority of voters opposed all three, but didn&#8217;t think that they were important enough to pass federal laws about them.<br />
It was the left who decided that these were important issues, because they needed something to campaign on. Now they&#8217;re complaining about losing a Culture War that they started in the first place.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 19:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Gringo &#062; &quot;How can we get younger people to look at this blog?&quot;

Maybe we could get Joe Rogan to interview her.

She&#039;s actually pretty well known in the Right Wing Blogosphere, and I think he might be interested in her wide range (from ballet to psychology) and deep analyses.

Anybody here know Joe?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Gringo &gt; &#8220;How can we get younger people to look at this blog?&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe we could get Joe Rogan to interview her.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s actually pretty well known in the Right Wing Blogosphere, and I think he might be interested in her wide range (from ballet to psychology) and deep analyses.</p>
<p>Anybody here know Joe?</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 17:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[M Williams
&lt;i&gt;Yet they fancy themselves, still, as the champions of the downtrodden. But now, it’s as long as they’re not white.&lt;/i&gt;

Correction:&lt;i&gt;Yet they fancy themselves, still, as the champions of the downtrodden. But now, it’s as long as they’re not white &lt;b&gt;and do not vote Republican.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Marisa wrote “Liberalism/leftism is akin to a religion for so many of its adherents, and they have so much of their identities as Good Persons <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> and Smart Persons <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> wrapped up in it.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yes, yes, yes. Bear in mind that &quot;liberalism&quot; changes with the wind. Who was talking about trans people twenty years ago? It is not so much &quot;Liberalism&quot; as it is  &quot;the &#039;Liberal&#039; narrative &lt;i&gt;de jour.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Most of us who read and comment here, like our host, are old geezers. How can we get younger people to look at this blog?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M Williams<br />
<i>Yet they fancy themselves, still, as the champions of the downtrodden. But now, it’s as long as they’re not white.</i></p>
<p>Correction:<i>Yet they fancy themselves, still, as the champions of the downtrodden. But now, it’s as long as they’re not white <b>and do not vote Republican.</b></i></p>
<blockquote><p>Marisa wrote “Liberalism/leftism is akin to a religion for so many of its adherents, and they have so much of their identities as Good Persons ™ and Smart Persons ™ wrapped up in it.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, yes, yes. Bear in mind that &#8220;liberalism&#8221; changes with the wind. Who was talking about trans people twenty years ago? It is not so much &#8220;Liberalism&#8221; as it is  &#8220;the &#8216;Liberal&#8217; narrative <i>de jour.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Most of us who read and comment here, like our host, are old geezers. How can we get younger people to look at this blog?</p>
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		By: M Williams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 16:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Marisa wrote &quot;Liberalism/leftism is akin to a religion for so many of its adherents, and they have so much of their identities as Good Persons <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> and Smart Persons <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> wrapped up in it.&quot;

This sums it up for me as well.  To think they are reflective enough to abandon their very identities  . . .  very few will even contemplate the idea.

And for many my age (70) and older, the Republican Party is still the party of Nixon and Reagan.  They would rather die than be associated in any way with the Rep Party.

I also find it so interesting that this cohort would never set foot in a Walmart.  Yet they fancy themselves, still, as the champions of the downtrodden.  But now, it&#039;s as long as they&#039;re not white. 

If you told them they&#039;re now the status quo, they would recoil in horror at the thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marisa wrote &#8220;Liberalism/leftism is akin to a religion for so many of its adherents, and they have so much of their identities as Good Persons ™ and Smart Persons ™ wrapped up in it.&#8221;</p>
<p>This sums it up for me as well.  To think they are reflective enough to abandon their very identities  . . .  very few will even contemplate the idea.</p>
<p>And for many my age (70) and older, the Republican Party is still the party of Nixon and Reagan.  They would rather die than be associated in any way with the Rep Party.</p>
<p>I also find it so interesting that this cohort would never set foot in a Walmart.  Yet they fancy themselves, still, as the champions of the downtrodden.  But now, it&#8217;s as long as they&#8217;re not white. </p>
<p>If you told them they&#8217;re now the status quo, they would recoil in horror at the thought.</p>
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		By: Shadow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 15:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Honestly, I think we&#039;re seeing signs that they overplayed their hand in 2020-2021 with their push to cram DEI down everyone&#039;s throats. They lost their most effective weapon against their opponents - the assumption that the Republican Party is &quot;racist.&quot; With minorities voting Republican in far greater numbers this year, that tactic is surely no longer working with vast swathes of the population. I think they went too far over the past decade and especially in the past four years with their identity politics, to the point where a lot of people stopped caring about being called &quot;racist&quot; (and xenophobic, bigoted, etc.). I optimistically think we&#039;ve reached a point where a critical mass of people are not fazed by those insults. How are libs/progressives/leftists going to recover from that? It&#039;ll be interesting to watch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I think we&#8217;re seeing signs that they overplayed their hand in 2020-2021 with their push to cram DEI down everyone&#8217;s throats. They lost their most effective weapon against their opponents &#8211; the assumption that the Republican Party is &#8220;racist.&#8221; With minorities voting Republican in far greater numbers this year, that tactic is surely no longer working with vast swathes of the population. I think they went too far over the past decade and especially in the past four years with their identity politics, to the point where a lot of people stopped caring about being called &#8220;racist&#8221; (and xenophobic, bigoted, etc.). I optimistically think we&#8217;ve reached a point where a critical mass of people are not fazed by those insults. How are libs/progressives/leftists going to recover from that? It&#8217;ll be interesting to watch.</p>
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		By: Mike Plaiss		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Plaiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 14:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;you cannot reason someone out of a position they never reasoned themselves into&lt;/i&gt;

Perpetually on my to-do list to read more Chesterton. I &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; gotta get on that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>you cannot reason someone out of a position they never reasoned themselves into</i></p>
<p>Perpetually on my to-do list to read more Chesterton. I <i>really</i> gotta get on that.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 14:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[oakland discarded it&#039;s mayor and da, part of the wave that scuttled gascon and brought some sanity with proposition 36

the remarkable degree of disrespect and contempt that they showed, in this cycle, with all the real stakes we faced, which were dismissed by the candidate, her mumenchantz band of surrogates,

in the latino community, the mumbling bad bunny, nicki jams and co, ricky martin was among the worst, he tried to crowd into a clown show at the Times with lin Miranda, all agrieved over dishonored puerto rico, the less said about Cardi B, the better, specially in a family-oriented blog, except to say her ridiculous phoned in responses

the legacy media, what Rush might call the state run media, is certainly dead or moribund, so now they seek to tell us what we witnessed with our own eyes,

the so called Avengers got back together, and it was a pitiful affair, Robert Downey found the real Tony Stark in Elon Musk too intimidating I suppose

all of this glamour as they would describe in fantasy terms did not do the trick

so the reality sets in, the princes of doha, understand what the new rules of the game are, and are sending Meshaal and co, an eviction notice,

the EU might be coming to grips with the new reality, I tend to doubt it, maybe the Ministry of Truth in the UK might be persuaded to dial it back some

but the tasks ahead are herculean, even for this force of nature, to make the crashing waves of inflation, to restore our energy balance to purge the deep state,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oakland discarded it&#8217;s mayor and da, part of the wave that scuttled gascon and brought some sanity with proposition 36</p>
<p>the remarkable degree of disrespect and contempt that they showed, in this cycle, with all the real stakes we faced, which were dismissed by the candidate, her mumenchantz band of surrogates,</p>
<p>in the latino community, the mumbling bad bunny, nicki jams and co, ricky martin was among the worst, he tried to crowd into a clown show at the Times with lin Miranda, all agrieved over dishonored puerto rico, the less said about Cardi B, the better, specially in a family-oriented blog, except to say her ridiculous phoned in responses</p>
<p>the legacy media, what Rush might call the state run media, is certainly dead or moribund, so now they seek to tell us what we witnessed with our own eyes,</p>
<p>the so called Avengers got back together, and it was a pitiful affair, Robert Downey found the real Tony Stark in Elon Musk too intimidating I suppose</p>
<p>all of this glamour as they would describe in fantasy terms did not do the trick</p>
<p>so the reality sets in, the princes of doha, understand what the new rules of the game are, and are sending Meshaal and co, an eviction notice,</p>
<p>the EU might be coming to grips with the new reality, I tend to doubt it, maybe the Ministry of Truth in the UK might be persuaded to dial it back some</p>
<p>but the tasks ahead are herculean, even for this force of nature, to make the crashing waves of inflation, to restore our energy balance to purge the deep state,</p>
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