Journalists were just as ignorant in 1912 as they are today.

One more thing. Why do people nowadays use “debunk” when all that has happened is the subject is disputed?

Links to so-called “sources” are pretty much useless nowadays. Fake news isn’t just from the Left (MSM), it’s also from the Right (RWM).

I’m working on a brief comment later this morning—to ask a question of recent news reported by RWM compared to another “source” that seems to dispute it.

• neo said: ‘And of course the left says one thing and the right says another.’

• neo said: ‘Also, although terrorism funding did not stop under the sanctions, it was markedly reduced.’

• neo said: ‘And of course the sanctions were only a bump in the road.’

Those were some of the points I had tried to get across to Brian E in my comment. I didn’t read your provided links (thanks anyway) because I had already covered the research on the Trump sanctions, and made my decision from that search and Iran’s continued support of terrorism AND Iran’s continued growth ‘n support of its Axis of Resistance. One only needs to looks at Iran’s actions during the sanctions and within the first year that Biden ended them – to see they were a mere sissy action by Trump.

Brian E

Karmi, I think you’re just making it up. Give me the source of your assertion that Trump’s sanctions had no effect.
Why should I believe you?

You suffer from both TDS & Cult of Personality, IMHO – Thusly, there is no way I would try to make you believe me…

Meanwhile, per “source” link at Nov 8 5:16 pm:

America lets little Israel do the actual fighting against Iran their Axis of Resistance…Geez!?

That RWM New York Post article suggests that Trump’s supporters want to leave Iran free to destroy Israel…let Israel do the fighting, and MAGA Right America can just put sissy sanctions on Iran during that fight. Hopefully Trump does more than that…

The posts are all eulogies, and none of them tell exactly when or how Jazz passed away.

https://asburyparkdinnertable.org/blog/jazz-shaw-death-obituary-influential-hot-air-journalist-passes-away/
“Shaw’s unexpected passing has left friends, family, colleagues, and readers in deep sorrow, marking a significant loss for media outlets that valued his insightful commentary, humor, and commitment to journalistic integrity.”

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/10/31/rip-jazz-shaw-1959-2024-n3796530

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2024/10/31/jazz-shaw-rest-in-peace-n4933832

Memorial show – Zoom link in this post.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/11/08/remembering-jazz-our-live-show-tribute-n3796787

Scalise’s announcement Thursday evening came after the Daily Wire reported that a FEMA official ordered employees to “avoid” Florida homes “advertising Trump” after Hurricane Milton hit the state.

“Denying disaster aid to Americans based on their support of President Donald Trump is as disgusting as it gets for an unelected bureaucrat being paid by American taxpayers,” the lower chamber’s top Republican declared in a statement to X.

“The House will be investigating this outrageous abuse of power,” Scalise continued.
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The federal agency has confirmed whistleblowers’ reports that FEMA supervisor Marn’i Washington told employees it was “best practice” to skip Trump-supporting homes as they canvassed Florida neighborhoods to determine who needed assistance following the recent Hurricane Milton. FEMA workers skipped at least 20 known homes with Trump signs or flags under Washington’s direction.

FEMA said it was “deeply disturbed by this employee’s actions” and claimed that the agency works to “hel[p] all survivors regardless of their political preference or affiliation.”

After the Washington Examiner pressed FEMA on whether the agency had fired the official who denied aid to Trump supporters, it replied, “We have taken measures to remove the employee from their role and are investigating the matter to prevent this from happening ever again.”

The answer is “no, she hasn’t been fired.”
Until Democrats start having consequences for their behavior, it will continue.
That is not vengeance, that is justice.

You make an assertion of fact with no link to a source at all, and then, when asked to provide one, you refuse. It isn’t very persuasive. Better to provide a source and explain briefly why you find it more credible than sources that say the opposite.

And of course the left says one thing and the right says another.

Here is the list of Iranian sanctions under the Trump administration. And here is a government spokesman explaining the policy and answering questions about it, including about the attitude of the Iranian people, who in surveys blamed their leaders for the economic hardship. Also, although terrorism funding did not stop under the sanctions, it was markedly reduced. The sanctions, far from “sissy,” were unusually comprehensive, as you can see from the links.

And of course the sanctions were only a bump in the road. The major ones were imposed in May of 2018, and when Biden became president he lifted them. That’s not a whole lot of time. Sanctions are not a magic panacea.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/11/08/culture-did-a-way-better-job-of-signaling-trumps-win-than-broken-polls/

Trump’s sissy sanctions were the equivalent of forcing the Rapist to wear Condoms during any future Rapes…

Sure, they hurt the Iranian citizens, but did very little if anything to slow Iran’s support of terrorism, and the growth ‘n support of the Axis of Resistance.

They didn’t seem to slow down Iran’s nuclear program either.

I have never said that taking out the ruling Mullahs was a priority. My point has been that Trump should’ve been taking out Iran’s Navy capability, their Military equip, barracks, weapon production, nuclear sites, etc.

Source? Open you eyes. Right wing sources praise Trump ‘n the sanctions. Left wing sources debunk the sanctions. Do your own research—the sissy sanctions did nothing to stop Iran’s goals…a mere bump-in-the-road…

https://notthebee.com/article/the-heck-official-docs-show-fema-official-ordered-workers-to-ignore-houses-with-trump-signs

There are screencaps of the supervisor’s instructions to do so, and of workers’ notations that they did.

Probably violated all sorts of Civil Rights laws, but NTBee opines that there are unlikely to be any real repercussions.

They have demoted the official; however, as we saw with Lois Lerner and FISA liar Clinesmith, and many many many others, once the heat is off, they go right back to work or get a payout from the treasury for their trauma.

At least the election results have encouraged whistleblowers to come forward, who might otherwise have held back for fear of Harris Inc retaliation.
That could still happen, but I hope the Trump legal team has someone assigned to this beat.

Whatever they do, Trump has said explicitly he doesn’t want a protracted war with Iran.

You keep asserting Trump’s previous sanctions weren’t effective. Have you given the source material for that position? If so, I didn’t see it.