Sid Blumenthal. Same guy that convinced Hillary to “wag the dog” and overthrow the regime in Libya – which was to be her “great achievement” that would get her elected POTUS.

He cooked up the entire Russia Hoax. And no one ever calls him out over it.

–Cornhead

A valid question. Yet I think not. I think we’ve dodged that bullet.

The size of Trump’s victory — including the popular vote — makes that a tougher proposition, thankfully.

IMO Democrats and the Deep State must be prepared to declare martial law and frog march Trump to jail to prevent his threat to democracy.

Short of that they will have to go vague resistance mode, which won’t be nearly so effective.

I don’t think they know what to do now. Keep in mind that both Biden and Harris were short-term moves while Dems figured out their future strategy.

They don’t have any good moves now, short of wheeling out Antifa and the tanks. I think they are smart enough to know that won’t work.

Still … maybe I should buy a gun.

This is a great post, and some of the old neo material mentioned predates my coming to this site. It’s a solid starting thesis: Obama was a turning point.

And because neo is so astute, she includes Alinsky. Now I’m a little conflicted over my next point, which is Hillary. Just yesterday, I stated that a Hillary presidency would have been much preferrable to a Kamala presidency. However OTOH, there is this well known (by some) history about Alinsky.

Frank Nitti, aka Francesco Nitto, was a mob assassin and later boss, that pioneered the mob branching out into ruling labor unions. Saul Alinsky was a acolyte of Nitti and probably learned a lot about corrupting labor unions and other organizations as well.

Hillary was a HUGE fan of Alinsky, wrote a (masters?) thesis about him, and was all giddy when she was able to visit with him. (Do you recall the “vast right wing conspiracy”? That was a classic Alinsky style tactic.) And of course, Hillary was intimately involved in the Russia-gate hoax.

Alinsky created a school of community organizing tactics and Obama taught there for a period of time. I assume he was a student there, before instructing.

PS: I think Bill and Hillary did not see eye-to-eye on a great many things, and aside from Bill being rather dishonest and sleazy, he wasn’t a half bad president in hindsite.

A couple days ago, when media folks were beginning to strongly suggest that Trump might win, I thought that there will likely be some sort of violence.

Rioting in DC sounds fairly rudimentary to me. I would expect the unexpected. Something much more clandestine and insidious. The Antifa affair has been a rather astonishing alliance between communist and anarchist factions, highly organized, and a very covert and well funded (by whom?) violent form of “activism.”

Trump learned plenty in his first term. He will have much better people around him this time. And I look forward to Elon cutting $2b from the federal budget.

Then Bill Ayers name popped up and I knew Obama was a radical leftist. I was still a registered Democrat in 2008, so I voted for Hilary in the primary.

“Americans walked through a door last night, and it locked behind them.

Certainly, nothing dire will happen immediately. But the long-term rot will continue unabated, at times slowly and at other times more quickly, until someday .. maybe years in the future …. most of us will recognize that this was indeed a pivotal moment that altered the course of America and our society in such ways that we can never hope to recover.

While the euphoria is now about America having evolved enough to finally elect an African-American as president, the majority of Americans will someday recognize that he wasn’t just that, but he was more importantly a Marxist, anti-American, anti-Western, anti-Semitic, black separationist, Muslim jihadi sympathizing, corrupt Chicago politician who loathed the half of himself that was Caucasian.

Posted by: fdcol63 ”

SO true.

And Avi..yes hard to admit if she had won the primary in 08 how much different things might have been. She’s evil, but he’s at a different level.