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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/11/04/open-thread-11-4-2024/#comment-2770175</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 10:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Brian E &#062; &quot;More likely, God has a plan for Israel and America still has a part in it.&quot;

That&#039;s actually a pretty fair statement of one of the main themes in The Book of Mormon.
What details He has planned were not disclosed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Brian E &gt; &#8220;More likely, God has a plan for Israel and America still has a part in it.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s actually a pretty fair statement of one of the main themes in The Book of Mormon.<br />
What details He has planned were not disclosed.</p>
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		By: TR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, it&#039;s the night of Nov.4, 2024, by my schedule.

 The Presidential, election day of 2024, is tomorrow. 

 If Kamala Harris wins the election, I&#039;ll be singing this song a lot, (and maybe, so will lots of others):

  To the tune of the song, &quot;Leaning on the Everlasting Arms&quot;-
 
 Waiting for The US Economy to die!...

 Waiting.

 Waiting.
 
 Getting low on CASH and ALL SUPPLIES.

 Waiting.

 Waiting.

 Waiting for the US Economy to DIE!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s the night of Nov.4, 2024, by my schedule.</p>
<p> The Presidential, election day of 2024, is tomorrow. </p>
<p> If Kamala Harris wins the election, I&#8217;ll be singing this song a lot, (and maybe, so will lots of others):</p>
<p>  To the tune of the song, &#8220;Leaning on the Everlasting Arms&#8221;-</p>
<p> Waiting for The US Economy to die!&#8230;</p>
<p> Waiting.</p>
<p> Waiting.</p>
<p> Getting low on CASH and ALL SUPPLIES.</p>
<p> Waiting.</p>
<p> Waiting.</p>
<p> Waiting for the US Economy to DIE!</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 05:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan, I&#039;m not sure how much power the Witches of Endor have, but they believe that some force is protecting President Trump.
If you believe that it was a miracle that President Trump wasn&#039;t killed in the Butler assassination attempt, then the next question is why?
And if he protected Trump in that instance, are there other instances of miracles or are they all just coincidences.
One that just popped out at me was the horrible comedians attempt to sabotage Trumps election with the awful Puerto Rico joke. The left would have ridden that joke to election day, but what happened? The next day, Biden has a lucid/not lucid moment and saves Trump&#039;s campaign by an even bigger blunder. Just dumb luck or divine intervention?
But back to the question why did God spare Trump? I&#039;m not sure America is worth saving at the rate we are succumbing to the god of this age. More likely, God has a plan for Israel and America still has a part in it.
We all need to pray for our President.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan, I&#8217;m not sure how much power the Witches of Endor have, but they believe that some force is protecting President Trump.<br />
If you believe that it was a miracle that President Trump wasn&#8217;t killed in the Butler assassination attempt, then the next question is why?<br />
And if he protected Trump in that instance, are there other instances of miracles or are they all just coincidences.<br />
One that just popped out at me was the horrible comedians attempt to sabotage Trumps election with the awful Puerto Rico joke. The left would have ridden that joke to election day, but what happened? The next day, Biden has a lucid/not lucid moment and saves Trump&#8217;s campaign by an even bigger blunder. Just dumb luck or divine intervention?<br />
But back to the question why did God spare Trump? I&#8217;m not sure America is worth saving at the rate we are succumbing to the god of this age. More likely, God has a plan for Israel and America still has a part in it.<br />
We all need to pray for our President.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 05:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Karmi: Techno Fog says on 11/04: &quot;We’re just a day away from the 2024 Presidential election &quot;

We were actually (this morning) only &quot;a day away&quot; from the original concept of an election day, what with early voting, mail in voting that can continue for days past Tuesday, and counting that will take weeks, &lt;em&gt;I tell ya, weeks!!&lt;/em&gt; in some jurisdictions.

Lots of poll worrying in that post. 
&lt;blockquote&gt; For what it’s worth, here’s Karoline Leavitt (Trump’s Press Secretary) discussing their internal polling: “Our internal polls have President Trump leading in every single key battleground state.”&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
How good ARE internal polls, anyway?
&lt;blockquote&gt;
You expect a campaign to say that - but that doesn’t mean she’s wrong. In fact, early voting results indicate motivated Republicans and suggest potential problems with Democrat turnout. There’s an enthusiasm gap.
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Deep dive into the details, especially the really close states.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Will we see an urban/female turnaround, and has the GOP vote been frontloaded? It’s possible, but it may not be likely. We’ll find out soon enough.

But if it’s any indication, the Democrats are admitting that “the early vote numbers are a little scary.” And that’s probably an understatement.
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

One commenter points out another problem with polling methodologies.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
The polls do not take into account the illegal migrants voting
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Karmi: Techno Fog says on 11/04: &#8220;We’re just a day away from the 2024 Presidential election &#8221;</p>
<p>We were actually (this morning) only &#8220;a day away&#8221; from the original concept of an election day, what with early voting, mail in voting that can continue for days past Tuesday, and counting that will take weeks, <em>I tell ya, weeks!!</em> in some jurisdictions.</p>
<p>Lots of poll worrying in that post. </p>
<blockquote><p> For what it’s worth, here’s Karoline Leavitt (Trump’s Press Secretary) discussing their internal polling: “Our internal polls have President Trump leading in every single key battleground state.”</p></blockquote>
<p>How good ARE internal polls, anyway?</p>
<blockquote><p>
You expect a campaign to say that &#8211; but that doesn’t mean she’s wrong. In fact, early voting results indicate motivated Republicans and suggest potential problems with Democrat turnout. There’s an enthusiasm gap.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Deep dive into the details, especially the really close states.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Will we see an urban/female turnaround, and has the GOP vote been frontloaded? It’s possible, but it may not be likely. We’ll find out soon enough.</p>
<p>But if it’s any indication, the Democrats are admitting that “the early vote numbers are a little scary.” And that’s probably an understatement.
</p></blockquote>
<p>One commenter points out another problem with polling methodologies.</p>
<blockquote><p>
The polls do not take into account the illegal migrants voting
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 05:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Karmi &#062; &quot; Donald Trump hunting for the support of 200K Americans eligible to vote in Israel&quot;

I hope they get their ballots in on time.
And, I wonder if these ex-pats, and others, have been figured into any of the polls that are so widely worried over (like a cat worries a catnip mouse).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Karmi &gt; &#8221; Donald Trump hunting for the support of 200K Americans eligible to vote in Israel&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope they get their ballots in on time.<br />
And, I wonder if these ex-pats, and others, have been figured into any of the polls that are so widely worried over (like a cat worries a catnip mouse).</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 05:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Karmi &#062; &quot;Well, sometimes real Whistleblowers take a few years to show up&quot;

Sometimes their job depends on NOT showing up.

However, there seems to be an increase in writers on the left side of the media who are blowing whistles out of disgust at their employers&#039; bias, now that they can see some protection from Musk at X(Twitter), monetizable Substack sites, and the endorsement embargoes at NYT and WaPo.

Let&#039;s hope the trend continues.

A nice post-script on Herridge&#039;s report -- which basically reveals that Biden got a massive &quot;in kind&quot; donation from CBS in 2020 (and lots of other times they, and lots of other media, did the same)


Inside the SCIF

Late breaking today, I am hearing from many of you about Kamala Harris’ appearance on Saturday Night Live and what an FCC Commissioner called “a clear and blantant effort to evade FCC’s Equal Time rule” for political candidates.

In a snap poll, the vast majority of you, about 94%, say NBC should offer Donald Trump time on Sunday Night Football, the Today show or Nightly News. Based on the replies, &lt;b&gt;many of you would rather see candidate Trump turn down an NBC offer and see NBC fined by the FCC.&lt;/b&gt;


Here&#039;s what happened next; both appeared in venues most likely to draw their own supporters, and I doubt many Independents were swayed by either one.
I suspect NBC offered NASCAR rather than the broader-interest shows and Trump&#039;s people took that as at least a free ad; doubtful that the Regime Agency would ever punish NBC with a fine, despite Carr&#039;s censure.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4969297-nbc-airs-video-message-trump-harris-snl/
&lt;blockquote&gt;The network was broadcasting a NASCAR playoff race, but toward the end of its broadcast, Trump looked into the camera and addressed the crowd in a recorded message.

The Hill has reached out to NBC News for more information. The Hollywood Reporter noted Trump said a Harris presidency would cause a “depression,” and he encouraged people to vote.
...

Harris made her debut on “SNL” less than three days before the election in a short sketch for the episode’s cold open with comedian Maya Rudolph, who plays Harris on the show.

The Trump campaign immediately criticized Harris for going on the show, saying she was “cosplaying with her elitist friends” as her campaign “spirals down the drain into obscurity.”

On Sunday, the fallout from the appearance continued. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Commissioner Brendan Carr posted on the social platform X that her appearance was a “clear and blatant” effort to evade the FCC’s ‘equal time’ rule.

The rule allows rival candidates to ask for equal air time if they want it. Carr said it was designed to avoid “this type of biased and partisan conduct.”

&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Karmi &gt; &#8220;Well, sometimes real Whistleblowers take a few years to show up&#8221;</p>
<p>Sometimes their job depends on NOT showing up.</p>
<p>However, there seems to be an increase in writers on the left side of the media who are blowing whistles out of disgust at their employers&#8217; bias, now that they can see some protection from Musk at X(Twitter), monetizable Substack sites, and the endorsement embargoes at NYT and WaPo.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope the trend continues.</p>
<p>A nice post-script on Herridge&#8217;s report &#8212; which basically reveals that Biden got a massive &#8220;in kind&#8221; donation from CBS in 2020 (and lots of other times they, and lots of other media, did the same)</p>
<p>Inside the SCIF</p>
<p>Late breaking today, I am hearing from many of you about Kamala Harris’ appearance on Saturday Night Live and what an FCC Commissioner called “a clear and blantant effort to evade FCC’s Equal Time rule” for political candidates.</p>
<p>In a snap poll, the vast majority of you, about 94%, say NBC should offer Donald Trump time on Sunday Night Football, the Today show or Nightly News. Based on the replies, <b>many of you would rather see candidate Trump turn down an NBC offer and see NBC fined by the FCC.</b></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what happened next; both appeared in venues most likely to draw their own supporters, and I doubt many Independents were swayed by either one.<br />
I suspect NBC offered NASCAR rather than the broader-interest shows and Trump&#8217;s people took that as at least a free ad; doubtful that the Regime Agency would ever punish NBC with a fine, despite Carr&#8217;s censure.</p>
<p><a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4969297-nbc-airs-video-message-trump-harris-snl/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4969297-nbc-airs-video-message-trump-harris-snl/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The network was broadcasting a NASCAR playoff race, but toward the end of its broadcast, Trump looked into the camera and addressed the crowd in a recorded message.</p>
<p>The Hill has reached out to NBC News for more information. The Hollywood Reporter noted Trump said a Harris presidency would cause a “depression,” and he encouraged people to vote.<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p>Harris made her debut on “SNL” less than three days before the election in a short sketch for the episode’s cold open with comedian Maya Rudolph, who plays Harris on the show.</p>
<p>The Trump campaign immediately criticized Harris for going on the show, saying she was “cosplaying with her elitist friends” as her campaign “spirals down the drain into obscurity.”</p>
<p>On Sunday, the fallout from the appearance continued. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Commissioner Brendan Carr posted on the social platform X that her appearance was a “clear and blatant” effort to evade the FCC’s ‘equal time’ rule.</p>
<p>The rule allows rival candidates to ask for equal air time if they want it. Carr said it was designed to avoid “this type of biased and partisan conduct.”</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 04:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In re Josh Clinton&#039;s post on polling methodology: 
I don&#039;t see anything biased in his article and explanation, but it might be wise to consider the &quot;about&quot; section of his website host:
&quot;Good Authority is the successor to The Monkey Cage, a site that was founded in 2007 and published at the Washington Post from 2013-2022.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re Josh Clinton&#8217;s post on polling methodology:<br />
I don&#8217;t see anything biased in his article and explanation, but it might be wise to consider the &#8220;about&#8221; section of his website host:<br />
&#8220;Good Authority is the successor to The Monkey Cage, a site that was founded in 2007 and published at the Washington Post from 2013-2022.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 04:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Brian E in re the quote from your linked post: 
&quot;Trump seems to have a spiritual “shield” that is somehow protecting him from their magic.&quot;

Do tell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Brian E in re the quote from your linked post:<br />
&#8220;Trump seems to have a spiritual “shield” that is somehow protecting him from their magic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do tell.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 04:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Barry &#062; “ Here’s the key to reading the tight polls and predicting a Trump win”

The NYPost article by Henry Olsen was very enlightening. 
He linked to another post by Josh Clinton about polling, which was also very informative.
https://goodauthority.org/news/election-poll-vote2024-data-pollster-choices-weighting/

Recommended for those who are really, really interested in the polls and their methodologies.
I pretty much ignore them -- for many of the reasons that Olsen and Clinton elucidate.

Note about the author of the second post, link &quot;here&quot; in the original:
 &quot;Josh Clinton is the Abby and Jon Winkelried Chair and professor of political science at Vanderbilt University. He is also the co-director of the Vanderbilt Poll and co-director of the Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions at Vanderbilt. The data and code for this analysis are available here.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Barry &gt; “ Here’s the key to reading the tight polls and predicting a Trump win”</p>
<p>The NYPost article by Henry Olsen was very enlightening.<br />
He linked to another post by Josh Clinton about polling, which was also very informative.<br />
<a href="https://goodauthority.org/news/election-poll-vote2024-data-pollster-choices-weighting/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://goodauthority.org/news/election-poll-vote2024-data-pollster-choices-weighting/</a></p>
<p>Recommended for those who are really, really interested in the polls and their methodologies.<br />
I pretty much ignore them &#8212; for many of the reasons that Olsen and Clinton elucidate.</p>
<p>Note about the author of the second post, link &#8220;here&#8221; in the original:<br />
 &#8220;Josh Clinton is the Abby and Jon Winkelried Chair and professor of political science at Vanderbilt University. He is also the co-director of the Vanderbilt Poll and co-director of the Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions at Vanderbilt. The data and code for this analysis are available here.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 04:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Mike Plaiss  &#062; &quot;Here’s another attempt at the Archive edition:&quot;

You are not the problem.
The Archive aka Wayback Machine has been under attack since October, and is still digging out from the wreckage.
That&#039;s why your links don&#039;t always work. I was able to get in, but I&#039;m a paid subscriber.
Not to Bloomberg, however. 
There isn&#039;t money enough to fund every site I read.

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2024/11/01/the-internet-is-getting-flushed-down-orwells-memory-hole-n4933849

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/internet-archive-hacked-and-31-million-user-accounts-leaked-hacking-group-sn-blackmeta-claims-responsibility]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike Plaiss  &gt; &#8220;Here’s another attempt at the Archive edition:&#8221;</p>
<p>You are not the problem.<br />
The Archive aka Wayback Machine has been under attack since October, and is still digging out from the wreckage.<br />
That&#8217;s why your links don&#8217;t always work. I was able to get in, but I&#8217;m a paid subscriber.<br />
Not to Bloomberg, however.<br />
There isn&#8217;t money enough to fund every site I read.</p>
<p><a href="https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2024/11/01/the-internet-is-getting-flushed-down-orwells-memory-hole-n4933849" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2024/11/01/the-internet-is-getting-flushed-down-orwells-memory-hole-n4933849</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/internet-archive-hacked-and-31-million-user-accounts-leaked-hacking-group-sn-blackmeta-claims-responsibility" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/internet-archive-hacked-and-31-million-user-accounts-leaked-hacking-group-sn-blackmeta-claims-responsibility</a></p>
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