–karmi

Octopus is playing the long game. Slow and steady wins the race.

Humans are just a flash in the pan before the Great Octocene Epoch to come.

Based on the changes, it would be harder for Democrats to contest certification in Congress.

While it makes certifying the election more straight forward, it does reduce Congress ability to safeguard any malfeasance at the state level. Should that be a concern? Probably, given the courts reluctance to intervene in election matters.

https://www.cato.org/blog/two-years-after-january-6-electoral-count-act-reform-now-law

Al Gore had the same problem in January 2001, in an election that was much closer and nastily contested, but he’d conceded by December 13. Twenty House Democrats contested the electoral votes of Florida and Gore ruled them out of order as no Senator co-sponsored. I’m not sure we could count on this level of adult behavior from the VP, the Senate, and the House Democrats given that they all say they consider Trump an existential threat to “our democracy”.

It’s all more evidence of the confusion surrounding what the Vice President is actually for.

We have a sort of public pretense that you elect a Vice President to be an understudy or successor to the President; in practice this rarely happens.

The original Constitution had the Vice President as the leader of the opposition to the elected President–which is why the Vice President is President of the Senate– and that sounds fantastic in a theoretical “checks and balances” way but it was a practical nightmare especially given the two-party system that grew up outside the Constitution. So they fixed part of it by electing President and Vice President on the same ticket but they never figured out what the Vice President is really supposed to be.

So now we have a system where sometimes one of the people running for President gets to certify the election they are a candidate in.

At any rate, if blue precincts in WI, PA, MI can’t deliver enough blue ballots in their counts, I’d expect successful challenges to the Electoral votes of some of the states Trump wins. That throws the election to the House, which will vote by state delegation and not as individuals. The Senate would choose the Vice President, voting as individuals. I don’t know how confident I am that Trump would get 26 state delegations to vote for him.

If they fail to reach a decision by Inauguration Day, Kamala Harris is acting President until the deadlock is resolved. I hate to give them ideas. I would hope that the rewards for defecting from intentional deadlock would be too much for Congressional consciences, but that would imply Harris would win in the end.

Bonus: Rat
15 – Squirrel
14 – Cuttlefish
13 – Octopus
12 – Cat
11 – Pig
10 – Dog, Wolf, Fox & Coyote
9 – African Grey Parrot
8 – Orca
7 – Gorilla
6 – Raven, Crow & Magpie
5 – Elephant
4 – Dolphin
3 – Bonobo
2 – Orangutan
1 – Chimpanzee

Humans didn’t make the list?! 😉

It might not have been a problem, since the vote was pretty conclusive.

Wikipedia: “Bush defeated Dukakis by a margin of 426 to 111 in the Electoral College, and he took 53.4 percent of the national popular vote.[152] Bush ran well in all the major regions of the country, but especially in the South.[153] He became the fourth sitting vice president to be elected president and the first to do so since Martin Van Buren in 1836 and the first person to succeed a president from his own party via election since Herbert Hoover in 1929.[101][g] In the concurrent congressional elections, Democrats retained control of both houses of Congress.”

I’m sure we have nothing to worry about, what with Vice President Kamala Harris counting the Electoral College ballots and certifying the Presidential Election.

That’s what worries me — a lot.
If Trump somehow survives past his inauguration, how long will he last before the implementation of what are now just threats drives someone to rid us of this turbulent reformer?

The Regime apparatchiks have already demonstrated that they may be cunning but they aren’t good at second-order thinking, as in: IF any of the 3 assassins to date had succeeded in killing Trump, what was most likely to happen next would probably NOT coincide with their wish-casting — because it so often hasn’t in the past.

If they are driven to overt measures on those lines, given the climate of suspicion already extant, can they reasonably expect to escape accusation? And if they aren’t directly responsible, but the constant yammering about Trump-Hitler sets off another “random lone wolf” killer, they will still be accused of the crime.

We are in deep, uncharted waters, and here be dragons.

AesopFan:

Perhaps. I’m less cynical. I find much conservative pessimism reflexive and unhealthy. But we will see how much of a third-world country the USA has become.

I worry more about the Deep State, which is facing a near-death experience if Trump is elected and inaugurated. Trump knows better than to let such sleeping vipers lie.

I’ve got to believe that the Deep State has got people thinking 24/7 how to stop a Trump presidency … by any means necessary.