Comments on: Columbus: Jewish?

By: John Galt III

John Galt III — Thu, 17 Oct 2024 12:02:47 +0000

Be funny if Arab Muslims did DNA tests and found that they all had Jewish ancestors.

By: F

Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:53:07 +0000

@Molly+Brown:

But don’t expect to see the headline: “We’re all Jews Now.”

By: Molly+Brown

Molly+Brown — Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:35:55 +0000

Today’s entry in the ‘Is Everybody Jewish?’ file!

By: West TX Intermediate Crude

West TX Intermediate Crude — Tue, 15 Oct 2024 03:00:27 +0000

OT, but interesting-
According to the 2 articles cited below, today’s Ashkenazi Jews descended from a cohort that had been reduced to numbering 350 sometime around the 14th century.
40% of today’s Ashkenazi Jews descended from 4 women.
At least, according to these 2 papers, the reliability of which I cannot determine.

https://tinyurl.com/yzck4mhw
https://tinyurl.com/mr28ddp2

By: Niketas Choniates

Niketas Choniates — Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:07:59 +0000

Those DNA ancestry reports don’t actually show ancestry, they show similarities between your DNA and distributions for other populations, usually limited to what they’ve obtained from other customers. The geography classifications are based on where people live today, not where your ancestors would have lived had they come from that area.

Except maybe in the Andamans (some difficulty with testing there) there are no human genes not found in all human groups.

If a DNA ancestry report says you’re 25% Elbonian and 25% Ruritanian, if you actually were descended from those groups in that ratio you might get that result, but you can get that result without being descended from any of them.

And you might not get it even if you were, siblings and even identical twins frequently get differing “ancestry reports”, and so will you if you get tested by more than one company.

At best they might supplement or complement a genealogy based on documents.

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:13:26 +0000

Columbus’ ancestry is only of importance to Italians and anti-Semites. Being of Portuguese ancestry on my paternal side, I’d be honored to discover that in my genetic mix I harbor some Jewish genetics. Unfortunately, none were revealed in my gifted DNA ancestry report. Of course, hope springs eternal.

By: stu

stu — Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:10:32 +0000

I am an Ashkenazi Jew and trace my ancestry to the Baltic states and the Ukraine, however my son had his ancestry analyzed and the report substantiated the above but also added that he was 1% Italian. My wife’s families came from what is now Poland.

By: Abraxas

Abraxas — Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:09:00 +0000

Sephardic ancestry isn’t uncommon in Spaniards. According to DNA studies, 20% of Spaniards have some Sephardic ancestry and 11% have some Moorish ancestry. Also, there are Spaniards with distant Phoenician or Carthagenian ancestry, and their DNA shows much overlap with Sephardic DNA.

By: Kate

Kate — Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:01:21 +0000

Yes, it doesn’t prove that Columbus (first name Christopher!) was secretly a practicing Jew. “Some ancestry” is not the same as “forced convert.”

But still, the wide prevalence of some Jewish ancestry among Spanish peoples interesting. The New Testament reports that there were Jews from all over the known world in Jerusalem for the Passover the year Jesus was crucified.

I had a discussion with a learned elderly Muslim friend in Egypt, pointing out to him that beginning in the 13th century AD there were increasingly oppressive pogroms carried out against the Copts, leading to many conversions. This means that many Egyptians, so far from being “Arab,” probably have significant Egyptian, i.e. Copt, blood.

By: IrishOtter49

IrishOtter49 — Mon, 14 Oct 2024 20:36:18 +0000

I absolutely do not care whether or not Columbus was . . . oh, for fuck’s sake, this is ridiculous. Not as ridiculous as arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, but close to it.

How about this. I am a direct descendant of Chief Joseph Brandt of the Mohawk nation. Yes I am. I have documentation proving that he was my great-great-etc. grandfather, and that I am descended from the white woman he married. Do you care? I didn’t think so.

Now, about that casino I’m planning to open. . . .