Comments on: Remember the olden days of 2016, when it was okay to mess with electors? https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/ A blog about political change, among other things Wed, 16 Oct 2024 12:07:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Cappy https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/#comment-2766858 Wed, 16 Oct 2024 12:07:43 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=137502#comment-2766858 They’ve solved their need for death threats by proceeding directly to assassination attempts.

]]> By: AesopFan https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/#comment-2766496 Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:25:40 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=137502#comment-2766496 J. D. Vance takes on an “interviewer” (read: Inquisitor) trying to pin him down to say Trump lost 2020.
He doesn’t adhere to her agenda.
https://notthebee.com/article/watching-jd-vance-turn-the-tables-on-this-new-york-times-schoolmarm-is-absolutely-the-best-thing-youll-see-today

]]> By: J.J. https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/#comment-2766462 Sun, 13 Oct 2024 18:18:17 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=137502#comment-2766462 All’s fair in love, war, and politics. At least for the Democrats. I’d forgotten all the shenanigans that were pulled in 2017. Thanks, Neo, for reminding us. When they doit, it’s “saving democracy.” When Repubs do it, it’s an” insurrection.”

If we had a decent media, those differences would be reported on and understood by most. As long as the MSM acts as an arm of the Democrat party, the lies will continue.

]]> By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/#comment-2766430 Sun, 13 Oct 2024 11:38:18 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=137502#comment-2766430 The issue with faithless electors can be addressed by abolishing the office of elector. Each state and abiding territory would be assigned a quantum of electoral votes (e.g. a number equal to the citizen population of the state or territory) and the electoral votes would be assigned consequent to popular vote contests in each state (or territory). Ideally, the dozen or so most populous states are divvied up into constituencies to which a certain quantum of electoral votes are assigned and you have a contest in those constituencies to distribute them. The other states and territories have a single at-large constituency.
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As for the popular vote contests, constituencies with > two candidates on the ballot might have a ranked-choice contest, those with two candidates a first-past-the-post contest, and the odd constituency with just one would have an install-reject referendum on the candidate. A candidate receives the electoral votes if he receives a majority of the tally.

]]> By: Skip https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/#comment-2766422 Sun, 13 Oct 2024 09:23:05 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=137502#comment-2766422 I am trying to imagine what the days after the election will be like. I am not sure anyone can with the odds being in the lottery realm.

]]> By: Niketas Choniates https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/#comment-2766376 Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:50:33 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=137502#comment-2766376 Leftists always project. The things they accuse Trump of wanting to do are things they actually have done and are planning to do.

Speaking just to the Electoral College, there was a concerted push for mass defection of Electors in 2016, with the media cheerleading them, branding them “Hamilton Electors”, and a group called Unite for America making a celebrity-studded video encouraging them.

In the end there were 10 faithless electors in 2016.

Two of them were replaced with electors who voted normally as prescribed by the laws of their state: one from Colorado, one from Minnesota, both replaced by votes for Clinton. The faithless elector from Maine changed his vote to Clinton when his ballot for Bernie Sanders was rejected (the Electors don’t have a secret ballot).

Only Texas had faithless electors who were supposed to vote for Trump and didn’t; Texas has no law preventing them from not voting as pledged.

The end result was 5 EC votes lost for Clinton and 2 lost for Trump.

]]> By: Art Deco https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/#comment-2766371 Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:24:56 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=137502#comment-2766371 I’m wagering the dumpy dames in Madison making a scene were all teachers’ union members.

]]> By: Geoffrey Britain https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/#comment-2766368 Sat, 12 Oct 2024 21:58:00 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=137502#comment-2766368 When political opponents repeatedly ‘overturn the chess board’, they have demonstrated that they will no longer act within the rules and have essentially declared war upon the former civil order. They are actively “cutting down all the laws”.

To insist upon continuing to play by the former rules of political discourse is to essentially declare that the Constitution is indeed a suicide pact.

You can’t win a gunfight with a knife.

]]> By: Kate https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/#comment-2766360 Sat, 12 Oct 2024 21:09:19 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=137502#comment-2766360 When I recall the Gore attempt to change the national election result with selective “recounts” in precincts favorable to him, and the shenanigans of the Democrats in 2016, Trump’s activities in 2020 don’t look bad in comparison. Dems will never admit that if Trump’s efforts were illegal, then so also were theirs, and then some.

]]> By: Abraxas https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/12/remember-the-olden-days-of-2016-when-it-was-okay-to-mess-with-electors/#comment-2766337 Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:14:22 +0000 https://www.thenewneo.com/?p=137502#comment-2766337 The irony is that after all the Democrat efforts to get Trump electors to defect in 2016 more Clinton electors defected than Trump electors that year.

The foreshadowing is that other Clinton electors also planned to defect (and vote for Sanders or Kasich) but were “replaced” with more docile alternate electors.

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