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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/10/11/the-teacher-and-obama-on-those-pesky-trump-voting-men/#comment-2766324</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been touring the web and find there are several black &quot;brothas&quot; with YouTube channels who are pushing back hard on Obama. 

I think Obama stepped in it this time. 

It&#039;s one thing to lecture white males for sexism. But for a rich old black guy to lecture young black males, who&#039;ve borne the brunt of the bad Biden economy, is another thing. 

I doubt Obama changed any opinions, but I will bet he hardened some pro-Trump ones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been touring the web and find there are several black &#8220;brothas&#8221; with YouTube channels who are pushing back hard on Obama. </p>
<p>I think Obama stepped in it this time. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to lecture white males for sexism. But for a rich old black guy to lecture young black males, who&#8217;ve borne the brunt of the bad Biden economy, is another thing. </p>
<p>I doubt Obama changed any opinions, but I will bet he hardened some pro-Trump ones.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 18:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Philip Sells:

Obviously, neither group should be shot.

But there&#039;s also an implication from him that a lot of people refusing to vote for Harris are doing it on those grounds, and that if you had the exact same person as a man they&#039;d be voting for that person.  I doubt there are very many people objecting to Harris on those grounds &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt;.  

And even someone who doesn&#039;t want &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; woman to be president is not usually saying that because of women&#039;s lack of &lt;i&gt;smarts&lt;/i&gt;.  Usually it&#039;s because of some idea that women can&#039;t be tough enough, or are too emotional, or something of that nature.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip Sells:</p>
<p>Obviously, neither group should be shot.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s also an implication from him that a lot of people refusing to vote for Harris are doing it on those grounds, and that if you had the exact same person as a man they&#8217;d be voting for that person.  I doubt there are very many people objecting to Harris on those grounds <i>only</i>.  </p>
<p>And even someone who doesn&#8217;t want <i>any</i> woman to be president is not usually saying that because of women&#8217;s lack of <i>smarts</i>.  Usually it&#8217;s because of some idea that women can&#8217;t be tough enough, or are too emotional, or something of that nature.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Sells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 17:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is another of those cases in which one needs to look past the sloppy and inflamed assertions out there about what exactly was being said by this professor. He wasn&#039;t in fact saying that men who refuse to vote for Harris, generally, should be shot. He was saying that men who refuse to vote for her &lt;i&gt;on the specific ground that they think women lack the requisite intelligence to be president&lt;/i&gt; should be shot. Those are not the same thing.

(This is quite aside from whether or not he was being serious.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another of those cases in which one needs to look past the sloppy and inflamed assertions out there about what exactly was being said by this professor. He wasn&#8217;t in fact saying that men who refuse to vote for Harris, generally, should be shot. He was saying that men who refuse to vote for her <i>on the specific ground that they think women lack the requisite intelligence to be president</i> should be shot. Those are not the same thing.</p>
<p>(This is quite aside from whether or not he was being serious.)</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 04:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ sdferr &#062; &quot;A lowdown on the “Men for Kamala” Ad that showed up today&quot;

That was funny, but not surprising.
The ad --which was very cringe and kind of in the &quot;uncanny valley&quot; -- did have the feel of an advertisement for some new medical product, but I don&#039;t really expect any political ads to feature real people anymore.

Maybe Governor Newsom would add a paragraph to his anti-parody law that requires people purporting to be &quot;concerned voters&quot; actually have to be what they say they are.
Or there has to be a disclaimer &quot;paid actors&quot; prominently on the ad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ sdferr &gt; &#8220;A lowdown on the “Men for Kamala” Ad that showed up today&#8221;</p>
<p>That was funny, but not surprising.<br />
The ad &#8211;which was very cringe and kind of in the &#8220;uncanny valley&#8221; &#8212; did have the feel of an advertisement for some new medical product, but I don&#8217;t really expect any political ads to feature real people anymore.</p>
<p>Maybe Governor Newsom would add a paragraph to his anti-parody law that requires people purporting to be &#8220;concerned voters&#8221; actually have to be what they say they are.<br />
Or there has to be a disclaimer &#8220;paid actors&#8221; prominently on the ad.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 04:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Gringo &#062; My view on this “joke” is that the speaker was “dead” serious, but wanted to mask his seriousness in a “joke.”

It seems to me that the Democrats / leftists often get away with the excuse that they were &quot;just joking&quot; whenever they say any hurtful, mean, hateful, incitatory*, or vicious things and get called out.
But Republicans / conservatives who ARE actually joking get fact-checked by Snopes or fired.


*I couldn&#039;t get rid of the spell-checker&#039;s red line, for what looks like a perfectly understandable adjective (as in the lies that President Trump&#039;s remarks on J6 were incitatory).
Looks like I am in rare company: &quot;OED&#039;s only evidence for incitatory is from 1610, in the writing of John Donne, poet and Church of England clergyman.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Gringo &gt; My view on this “joke” is that the speaker was “dead” serious, but wanted to mask his seriousness in a “joke.”</p>
<p>It seems to me that the Democrats / leftists often get away with the excuse that they were &#8220;just joking&#8221; whenever they say any hurtful, mean, hateful, incitatory*, or vicious things and get called out.<br />
But Republicans / conservatives who ARE actually joking get fact-checked by Snopes or fired.</p>
<p>*I couldn&#8217;t get rid of the spell-checker&#8217;s red line, for what looks like a perfectly understandable adjective (as in the lies that President Trump&#8217;s remarks on J6 were incitatory).<br />
Looks like I am in rare company: &#8220;OED&#8217;s only evidence for incitatory is from 1610, in the writing of John Donne, poet and Church of England clergyman.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 01:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That KU instructor who &quot;jokingly&quot; said that those who don&#039;t vote for Kamala should be shot is no longer employed at KU.&lt;a href=&quot;https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/10/11/university-of-kansas-fires-professor-in-viral-video-n2402065 &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;WOMP! University of Kansas Professor Who Said Men Should Be Shot If They Don&#039;t Vote for Kamala &#039;RESIGNS.&#039;&lt;/a&gt;   
From the Kansas Reflector link:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The video on X has more than 3.5 million views. It was first posted Wednesday morning by Ned Ryun, the son of former Republican U.S. Rep. Jim Ryun of Kansas. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Which prompts several comments.

1) Jim Ryun was a US Congressman for 10 years, but he had been in the spotlight decades before. He was the first high schooler to run the mile in under 4 minutes, and won a silver medal at the 1968 Olympics.

2) This shows the influence of X (x-twitter :) ) on our political discourse. It&#039;s a good bet that if Elon Musk hadn&#039;t bought Twitter, Ned Ryun&#039;s tweet would have been suppressed by the Twitter censors.

(My view on this &quot;joke&quot; is that the speaker was &quot;dead&quot; serious, but wanted to mask his seriousness in a &quot;joke.&quot;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That KU instructor who &#8220;jokingly&#8221; said that those who don&#8217;t vote for Kamala should be shot is no longer employed at KU.<a href="https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/10/11/university-of-kansas-fires-professor-in-viral-video-n2402065 " rel="nofollow ugc">WOMP! University of Kansas Professor Who Said Men Should Be Shot If They Don&#8217;t Vote for Kamala &#8216;RESIGNS.&#8217;</a><br />
From the Kansas Reflector link:</p>
<blockquote><p>The video on X has more than 3.5 million views. It was first posted Wednesday morning by Ned Ryun, the son of former Republican U.S. Rep. Jim Ryun of Kansas. </p></blockquote>
<p>Which prompts several comments.</p>
<p>1) Jim Ryun was a US Congressman for 10 years, but he had been in the spotlight decades before. He was the first high schooler to run the mile in under 4 minutes, and won a silver medal at the 1968 Olympics.</p>
<p>2) This shows the influence of X (x-twitter 🙂 ) on our political discourse. It&#8217;s a good bet that if Elon Musk hadn&#8217;t bought Twitter, Ned Ryun&#8217;s tweet would have been suppressed by the Twitter censors.</p>
<p>(My view on this &#8220;joke&#8221; is that the speaker was &#8220;dead&#8221; serious, but wanted to mask his seriousness in a &#8220;joke.&#8221;)</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 00:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I doubt they’re that desperate.&lt;/i&gt;

Any basis for that beyond opinion?
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;CNN Polling Expert Explains Why Democrats Are ‘Bedwetting’&lt;/b&gt;

On Friday, CNN’s Harry Enten addressed the growing sense of alarm among Democrats regarding Kamala Harris’s polling in crucial battleground states. Describing this anxiety, Enten quipped, “What is with all of this bedwetting among Democrats?” 

His assessment focused on the Great Lakes states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan—the so-called “blue wall” states she needs if she wants to win the election.

&lt;b&gt;Enten noted that three weeks ago, Harris had a slight lead in all three, up by two points in both Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and by three points in Michigan.&lt;/b&gt; However, he pointed out that “the race is even tighter” now, with Harris holding only a one-point advantage in all three states based on CNN’s polling average.

&lt;b&gt; For what it’s worth, Trump has reclaimed the lead in Pennsylvania and Michigan in the RealClearPolitics averages of those states.&lt;/b&gt;

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/10/11/cnn-polling-expert-explains-why-democrats-are-bedwetting-n4933254&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I doubt they’re that desperate.</i></p>
<p>Any basis for that beyond opinion?<br />
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<p><i><b>CNN Polling Expert Explains Why Democrats Are ‘Bedwetting’</b></p>
<p>On Friday, CNN’s Harry Enten addressed the growing sense of alarm among Democrats regarding Kamala Harris’s polling in crucial battleground states. Describing this anxiety, Enten quipped, “What is with all of this bedwetting among Democrats?” </p>
<p>His assessment focused on the Great Lakes states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan—the so-called “blue wall” states she needs if she wants to win the election.</p>
<p><b>Enten noted that three weeks ago, Harris had a slight lead in all three, up by two points in both Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and by three points in Michigan.</b> However, he pointed out that “the race is even tighter” now, with Harris holding only a one-point advantage in all three states based on CNN’s polling average.</p>
<p><b> For what it’s worth, Trump has reclaimed the lead in Pennsylvania and Michigan in the RealClearPolitics averages of those states.</b></p>
<p><a href="https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/10/11/cnn-polling-expert-explains-why-democrats-are-bedwetting-n4933254" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/10/11/cnn-polling-expert-explains-why-democrats-are-bedwetting-n4933254</a></i></p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 00:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MS Adams, a tenured professor at the University of North Carolina at Wilmington, was fired for saying something not one tenth as offensive.  The people who should be shot are higher ed administrators.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MS Adams, a tenured professor at the University of North Carolina at Wilmington, was fired for saying something not one tenth as offensive.  The people who should be shot are higher ed administrators.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2024 00:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I doubt they&#039;re that desperate.  They may be frustrated that they cannot suppress Trump&#039;s expressed support.  I&#039;m not persuaded that DJT is beyond the margin of fraud.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt they&#8217;re that desperate.  They may be frustrated that they cannot suppress Trump&#8217;s expressed support.  I&#8217;m not persuaded that DJT is beyond the margin of fraud.<br />
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2024 23:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;This is a sign of Democrat desperation.&lt;/i&gt;

Kate:

Agreed. If the Harris/Walz ticket was doing well, the Dems wouldn&#039;t be hauling out Golden Oldies to stump for Harris. 

 I&#039;ve read that the Dem internal polling shows Harris losing in the Electoral College, so the basement campaign wasn&#039;t working and they had to send Harris and Walz out for interviews ... with poor results.

Whatever else one might say, Obama and Clinton were excellent politicians and far superior to Harris and Walz. 

Newt Gingrich argues it&#039;s a mistake to allow voters to compare the 2024 JV team to the Old Pros.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is a sign of Democrat desperation.</i></p>
<p>Kate:</p>
<p>Agreed. If the Harris/Walz ticket was doing well, the Dems wouldn&#8217;t be hauling out Golden Oldies to stump for Harris. </p>
<p> I&#8217;ve read that the Dem internal polling shows Harris losing in the Electoral College, so the basement campaign wasn&#8217;t working and they had to send Harris and Walz out for interviews &#8230; with poor results.</p>
<p>Whatever else one might say, Obama and Clinton were excellent politicians and far superior to Harris and Walz. </p>
<p>Newt Gingrich argues it&#8217;s a mistake to allow voters to compare the 2024 JV team to the Old Pros.</p>
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