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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Harris is a spoiled brat westmount thats hard living as much as evanston for hillary neither got any where on their own so they have to pander with their southern and lately urban action her path has been with the niche left and we have the evidence of that


We saw how they reacted to an earnest woman who was public christian who was a real reformer who was a devouted mother and wife 
Let me reminder there were strong insinuations about her virtue there were doubts made about her recent child (sullivan)
Of course about her intellect (gibson, couric) threats against her person (bernhardt) actual demostrations of harm in west hollywood)

The &#039;syrian invasion&#039; and the other elements were part of a replacement of western europeans that continues to this day why orban is under siege why duda was replaced in poland why the national front is locked out of power in perpituity

Now you chase your &#039;white nationalist&#039; ghosts while they succeed into undermining this country for hamas did we forget already]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harris is a spoiled brat westmount thats hard living as much as evanston for hillary neither got any where on their own so they have to pander with their southern and lately urban action her path has been with the niche left and we have the evidence of that</p>
<p>We saw how they reacted to an earnest woman who was public christian who was a real reformer who was a devouted mother and wife<br />
Let me reminder there were strong insinuations about her virtue there were doubts made about her recent child (sullivan)<br />
Of course about her intellect (gibson, couric) threats against her person (bernhardt) actual demostrations of harm in west hollywood)</p>
<p>The &#8216;syrian invasion&#8217; and the other elements were part of a replacement of western europeans that continues to this day why orban is under siege why duda was replaced in poland why the national front is locked out of power in perpituity</p>
<p>Now you chase your &#8216;white nationalist&#8217; ghosts while they succeed into undermining this country for hamas did we forget already</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The hermit Kermit rides to defend Laura Loomer from neo.  

Laura Loomer faces destruction on all sides; the life of a bigot is a hard one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hermit Kermit rides to defend Laura Loomer from neo.  </p>
<p>Laura Loomer faces destruction on all sides; the life of a bigot is a hard one.</p>
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		By: Karmi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karmi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 10:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ neo – Trump accepts LL even after people call her a “racist”. Pictures are ‘&lt;i&gt;worth a thousand words&lt;/i&gt;’, so do an image search for Laura Loomer and look for one from a site or someone that you do accept. &lt;b&gt;Loomer is clearly not a Trump “outsider”.&lt;/b&gt;

Taking it you agree with me that “Everyone is bigoted about something—&lt;b&gt;even you&lt;/b&gt; &#038; I.”

You are helping the DEM MSM to destroy Laura Loomer, in case you haven’t noticed. Same thing happened in the GOP primaries where Trump supporters would suddenly become ‘&lt;i&gt;Best Friends&lt;/i&gt;’  with the DEM MSM in order to destroy someone…&lt;i&gt;enough said&lt;/i&gt;, and on to another new day!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ neo – Trump accepts LL even after people call her a “racist”. Pictures are ‘<i>worth a thousand words</i>’, so do an image search for Laura Loomer and look for one from a site or someone that you do accept. <b>Loomer is clearly not a Trump “outsider”.</b></p>
<p>Taking it you agree with me that “Everyone is bigoted about something—<b>even you</b> &amp; I.”</p>
<p>You are helping the DEM MSM to destroy Laura Loomer, in case you haven’t noticed. Same thing happened in the GOP primaries where Trump supporters would suddenly become ‘<i>Best Friends</i>’  with the DEM MSM in order to destroy someone…<i>enough said</i>, and on to another new day!</p>
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		By: T J		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 08:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All I can add to the Loomer controversy is a side-note. If Trump is killed (as Dan Bongino expects), then JD Vance will have to replace himself as VP candidate.

If Vance chooses Vivek Ramaswamy to be the replacement Republican Veep nominee, then certain segments will object. For example, a portion of Christians may not vote because he&#039;s a practicing Hindu thus he&#039;s  a pagan.

Others will object to curry eating, too. Or that he&#039;s vegetarian. But with the likes of Rishi Sunak being the recent PM of the UK, it&#039;s clear that leadership talent with Indian roots is a growing trend in the world.

How long can we deny this fact?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can add to the Loomer controversy is a side-note. If Trump is killed (as Dan Bongino expects), then JD Vance will have to replace himself as VP candidate.</p>
<p>If Vance chooses Vivek Ramaswamy to be the replacement Republican Veep nominee, then certain segments will object. For example, a portion of Christians may not vote because he&#8217;s a practicing Hindu thus he&#8217;s  a pagan.</p>
<p>Others will object to curry eating, too. Or that he&#8217;s vegetarian. But with the likes of Rishi Sunak being the recent PM of the UK, it&#8217;s clear that leadership talent with Indian roots is a growing trend in the world.</p>
<p>How long can we deny this fact?</p>
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		By: Dax		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 06:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t agree with everything Ms. Loomer has said, in particular her trashing DeSantis and his wife.

But...she&#039;s a &quot;racist&quot;? I&#039;m not sure what a &quot;Shaniqua voice&quot; is, but whatever. Also something about curry smells in the White House? (I like the taste of curry.) Also, &quot;Muslim&quot; is not a race. 

That&#039;s all a quick web search turned up. Very weak tea!

Loomer has been de-platformed and de-banked by the left. I oppose this, as well as the lawfare against Alex Jones. I think he is a carny barker. But, we are supposed to be a nation of laws, not of men. What a concept!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with everything Ms. Loomer has said, in particular her trashing DeSantis and his wife.</p>
<p>But&#8230;she&#8217;s a &#8220;racist&#8221;? I&#8217;m not sure what a &#8220;Shaniqua voice&#8221; is, but whatever. Also something about curry smells in the White House? (I like the taste of curry.) Also, &#8220;Muslim&#8221; is not a race. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s all a quick web search turned up. Very weak tea!</p>
<p>Loomer has been de-platformed and de-banked by the left. I oppose this, as well as the lawfare against Alex Jones. I think he is a carny barker. But, we are supposed to be a nation of laws, not of men. What a concept!</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 05:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[{{{ &lt;i&gt; this documentary seems to have been made about twenty years ago:&lt;/i&gt;

I know absolutely nothing about it, or him, but... it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;60 Minutes&lt;/i&gt;

The chances of it not being egregiously ephed up and largely wrong is tremendous. :-D

======

}}} &lt;i&gt;Also the speeches telling NATO to increase their spending and to import American fuel. Flip the person from Obama / Biden to Trump and vice versa. Use it as evidence that Trump was working for Iran / Russia until the very end. How this is evidence of how bad Trump is and how he works for dictators! Then at the very end point out how that it was the reverse persons&lt;/i&gt;

By all means, post up links to justify your claims, instead of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;trolling people&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; to do the research needful to expose your fairly obvious BS for what it is.

Until then, you&#039;re just bloviating your hatred and parroting what you&#039;ve been told to say.

For one thing, Russia wants to MAKE EUROPE DEPENDENT on Russian Oil.

So how does Trump telling Europe to BUY AMERICAN even vaguely in Russia&#039;s interest? 

Q.E.D., your claims are ludicrous right on the surface. Post up proof, or stifle yourself!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>{{{ <i> this documentary seems to have been made about twenty years ago:</i></p>
<p>I know absolutely nothing about it, or him, but&#8230; it&#8217;s <i>60 Minutes</i></p>
<p>The chances of it not being egregiously ephed up and largely wrong is tremendous. 😀</p>
<p>======</p>
<p>}}} <i>Also the speeches telling NATO to increase their spending and to import American fuel. Flip the person from Obama / Biden to Trump and vice versa. Use it as evidence that Trump was working for Iran / Russia until the very end. How this is evidence of how bad Trump is and how he works for dictators! Then at the very end point out how that it was the reverse persons</i></p>
<p>By all means, post up links to justify your claims, instead of <i><b>trolling people</b></i> to do the research needful to expose your fairly obvious BS for what it is.</p>
<p>Until then, you&#8217;re just bloviating your hatred and parroting what you&#8217;ve been told to say.</p>
<p>For one thing, Russia wants to MAKE EUROPE DEPENDENT on Russian Oil.</p>
<p>So how does Trump telling Europe to BUY AMERICAN even vaguely in Russia&#8217;s interest? </p>
<p>Q.E.D., your claims are ludicrous right on the surface. Post up proof, or stifle yourself!!</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 03:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Karmi:

Of course calling people racist is a Democrat tactic - when the person is clearly not a racist.  But guess what? There are actual racists on earth, and Lara Loomer is one of them because she says obviously racist things. If you don&#039;t recognize it, that&#039;s your error, IMO.  My calling an actual racist a racist isn&#039;t a tactic, it&#039;s the truth.  People on the right are allowed to call racists racist. For example, the &quot;anti-racism&quot; grifters are racists, too, and it&#039;s not a &quot;tactic&quot; to say so.

Oh, and your wonderful source is &lt;i&gt;The New Republic&lt;/i&gt;.  Funny.  I haven&#039;t figured out whether you&#039;re a troll originating on the left or the right, and it really doesn&#039;t matter.  

My source simply quoted Vance and quoted Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karmi:</p>
<p>Of course calling people racist is a Democrat tactic &#8211; when the person is clearly not a racist.  But guess what? There are actual racists on earth, and Lara Loomer is one of them because she says obviously racist things. If you don&#8217;t recognize it, that&#8217;s your error, IMO.  My calling an actual racist a racist isn&#8217;t a tactic, it&#8217;s the truth.  People on the right are allowed to call racists racist. For example, the &#8220;anti-racism&#8221; grifters are racists, too, and it&#8217;s not a &#8220;tactic&#8221; to say so.</p>
<p>Oh, and your wonderful source is <i>The New Republic</i>.  Funny.  I haven&#8217;t figured out whether you&#8217;re a troll originating on the left or the right, and it really doesn&#8217;t matter.  </p>
<p>My source simply quoted Vance and quoted Trump.</p>
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		By: Karmi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karmi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 02:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ISW twofer:

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-september-16-2024&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Iran Update&lt;/a&gt; which links to: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-yet-to-receive-new-hostage-deal-formula-from-mediators-official-says/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;pillars of Hamas’s civil rule&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;A major focus of Israel’s Gaza campaign moving forward will be destroying the pillars of Hamas’s civil rule in Gaza, especially the distribution of humanitarian aid, which Israel sees as a core component of the terror group’s ability to show that it still controls the lives of Palestinians in the Strip, the Israeli official says.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, kill Hamas, maintain control over the Philadelphi Corridor, and break down those “pillars”. H/T ISW which also said “Hamas is no longer an organized military force in the Gaza Strip.”

ISW on &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-16-2024&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Russian Offensive Campaign&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Ukraine has taken steps to address its manpower shortages, but delays and insufficiencies in Western military aid to Ukraine continue to limit its ability to generate effective combat units .. Ukraine &quot;needs 14 brigades to be ready&quot; for an unspecified requirement and that &lt;b&gt;Ukraine has not been able to equip &quot;even four&quot; of these brigades with slowly arriving Western aid&lt;/b&gt;.

Ukraine&#039;s incursion into Kursk Oblast has forced Russia to redirect some resources from Ukraine to defend in Russia but that Ukraine still needs sufficient resources and Western permission to strike military targets in Russia to mitigate the theater-wide strain on Ukrainian forces.

Russia has increased nuclear cooperation with Iran in recent months in line with “[Iranian] ambitions to obtain atomic weapons,” according to unspecified Western officials speaking to Bloomberg on September 14.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISW twofer:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-september-16-2024" rel="nofollow ugc">Iran Update</a> which links to: <a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-yet-to-receive-new-hostage-deal-formula-from-mediators-official-says/" rel="nofollow ugc">pillars of Hamas’s civil rule</a></p>
<blockquote><p>A major focus of Israel’s Gaza campaign moving forward will be destroying the pillars of Hamas’s civil rule in Gaza, especially the distribution of humanitarian aid, which Israel sees as a core component of the terror group’s ability to show that it still controls the lives of Palestinians in the Strip, the Israeli official says.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, kill Hamas, maintain control over the Philadelphi Corridor, and break down those “pillars”. H/T ISW which also said “Hamas is no longer an organized military force in the Gaza Strip.”</p>
<p>ISW on <a href="https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-16-2024" rel="nofollow ugc">Russian Offensive Campaign</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Ukraine has taken steps to address its manpower shortages, but delays and insufficiencies in Western military aid to Ukraine continue to limit its ability to generate effective combat units .. Ukraine &#8220;needs 14 brigades to be ready&#8221; for an unspecified requirement and that <b>Ukraine has not been able to equip &#8220;even four&#8221; of these brigades with slowly arriving Western aid</b>.</p>
<p>Ukraine&#8217;s incursion into Kursk Oblast has forced Russia to redirect some resources from Ukraine to defend in Russia but that Ukraine still needs sufficient resources and Western permission to strike military targets in Russia to mitigate the theater-wide strain on Ukrainian forces.</p>
<p>Russia has increased nuclear cooperation with Iran in recent months in line with “[Iranian] ambitions to obtain atomic weapons,” according to unspecified Western officials speaking to Bloomberg on September 14.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Karmi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 01:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo: calling people racist is a DEM tactic, and apparently Trump ignores it in ref to LL. Everyone is bigoted about something—even you &#038; I. You consider LL a ‘&lt;i&gt;racist lowlife&lt;/i&gt;’ but I don’t agree and neither does Trump: 

&lt;a href=&quot;https://newrepublic.com/post/186022/donald-trump-laura-loomer-brag-likes-trusts&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Laura Loomer’s Latest Brag Is Probably Sending Team Trump Into a Panic&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt insisted Saturday that Trump “does not agree with all of the comments” that Loomer has made. &lt;b&gt;But any efforts to paint Loomer as an outsider have fallen flat&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unlike what you said – Vance may have “distance” himself from her, but Trump hasn’t. Per Trump’s own campaign spokeswoman and/or national press secretary – LL is not an “outsider”.

Basically...just more speculation on your part, and terrible linked sources, but thanks for the input.

&lt;i&gt;Anyway&lt;/i&gt;, I have learned a lot more about her today, and hopes she &#038; Trump remain close...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo: calling people racist is a DEM tactic, and apparently Trump ignores it in ref to LL. Everyone is bigoted about something—even you &amp; I. You consider LL a ‘<i>racist lowlife</i>’ but I don’t agree and neither does Trump: </p>
<p><a href="https://newrepublic.com/post/186022/donald-trump-laura-loomer-brag-likes-trusts" rel="nofollow ugc">Laura Loomer’s Latest Brag Is Probably Sending Team Trump Into a Panic</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt insisted Saturday that Trump “does not agree with all of the comments” that Loomer has made. <b>But any efforts to paint Loomer as an outsider have fallen flat</b>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Unlike what you said – Vance may have “distance” himself from her, but Trump hasn’t. Per Trump’s own campaign spokeswoman and/or national press secretary – LL is not an “outsider”.</p>
<p>Basically&#8230;just more speculation on your part, and terrible linked sources, but thanks for the input.</p>
<p><i>Anyway</i>, I have learned a lot more about her today, and hopes she &amp; Trump remain close&#8230;</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 00:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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