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		By: steve57i hope		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2024 01:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It happened.]]></description>
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		By: steve57i hope		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2024 01:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Debating the best twin engine fighter aircraft is interesting to geeks like me but your interests are permanent]]></description>
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		By: steve57i hope		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2024 01:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you know how much I love these postings of yours? I just spent hours exploring the  different variants of the P-38 Lightning and the RAF Mosquito like it matters. If anyone asks I don&#039;t know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know how much I love these postings of yours? I just spent hours exploring the  different variants of the P-38 Lightning and the RAF Mosquito like it matters. If anyone asks I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2024 00:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent find]]></description>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2024 17:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve seen a few major ballet productions but not this one.  While I know of it, I&#039;d never heard the plotline which is quite clever and fantastic.

And the video is amazing.  I watched it some detail before reading any comments and came up with the same two outstanding performances as BenDavid did: Vishneva and Osipova.  While I would probably rank Osipova higher overall, the Vishneva spin seems uniquely special.  There&#039;s a mechanical precision to it, or something..., that makes her seem like a spinning top.

The Osipova spin is very quick, and one can hear her heel plants.  Plus, I noticed that the conductor started with a beat that was considerably slower than her heels plants, then he quickly upped the tempo to match.  Also, the music tempo matched her leaps.

I&#039;m no ballet aficionado, but all the leaps seemed ho-hum to me except for Osipova&#039;s which really did capture that weightless &#038; beyond her control feel.  In addition to being an outstanding dancer, I suspect her dress was a factor in the visual impact of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen a few major ballet productions but not this one.  While I know of it, I&#8217;d never heard the plotline which is quite clever and fantastic.</p>
<p>And the video is amazing.  I watched it some detail before reading any comments and came up with the same two outstanding performances as BenDavid did: Vishneva and Osipova.  While I would probably rank Osipova higher overall, the Vishneva spin seems uniquely special.  There&#8217;s a mechanical precision to it, or something&#8230;, that makes her seem like a spinning top.</p>
<p>The Osipova spin is very quick, and one can hear her heel plants.  Plus, I noticed that the conductor started with a beat that was considerably slower than her heels plants, then he quickly upped the tempo to match.  Also, the music tempo matched her leaps.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no ballet aficionado, but all the leaps seemed ho-hum to me except for Osipova&#8217;s which really did capture that weightless &amp; beyond her control feel.  In addition to being an outstanding dancer, I suspect her dress was a factor in the visual impact of it.</p>
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		By: Jamie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2024 12:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought Natalia Osipova looked the most frantic...? Certainly she spun the fastest, but she also looked to me to be the most upset about it.

I also found it interesting that the orchestral tuning changed round about #5.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Natalia Osipova looked the most frantic&#8230;? Certainly she spun the fastest, but she also looked to me to be the most upset about it.</p>
<p>I also found it interesting that the orchestral tuning changed round about #5.</p>
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		By: Ilana		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2024 10:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very interesting. It&#039;s amazing how some of them manage to convey the impression of their being on marionette strings. Impressive! 
The music kept playing in my head after watching that video!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. It&#8217;s amazing how some of them manage to convey the impression of their being on marionette strings. Impressive!<br />
The music kept playing in my head after watching that video!</p>
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		By: BenDavid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2024 08:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks - after all your dance posts I now feel I understand what I am am seeing, what the artist is doing.

The idea of being possessed takes me straight back to your clips of Plisetkaya and your comments about her flexible spine and &quot;imperfect&quot; vertical alignment.

Some of these dancers get a bit of that wild abandon in the initial spin, but only Vishneva and Osipova (the last one) continue it naturalistically into the turns that follow, as if in a dizzy trance. She also gives some impression of being jerked around in the jumps jetes(?).

Cojocaru and Nunez are also somewhat convincing. Nunez seems slow and trancelike - is there a dance equivalent of &quot;rubato&quot; in music? And she dances up to the Queen Walli as if still in her thrall - a nice touch.

The rest of them are hampered by being plumbline vertical - too perfect.

You have also pointed out the extreme extensions - I thought this might be exploited to give an otherworldly feeling, with limbs whipping around. But again - the arms are too perfect for someone possessed/frenzied.

Thank you again for the education!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks &#8211; after all your dance posts I now feel I understand what I am am seeing, what the artist is doing.</p>
<p>The idea of being possessed takes me straight back to your clips of Plisetkaya and your comments about her flexible spine and &#8220;imperfect&#8221; vertical alignment.</p>
<p>Some of these dancers get a bit of that wild abandon in the initial spin, but only Vishneva and Osipova (the last one) continue it naturalistically into the turns that follow, as if in a dizzy trance. She also gives some impression of being jerked around in the jumps jetes(?).</p>
<p>Cojocaru and Nunez are also somewhat convincing. Nunez seems slow and trancelike &#8211; is there a dance equivalent of &#8220;rubato&#8221; in music? And she dances up to the Queen Walli as if still in her thrall &#8211; a nice touch.</p>
<p>The rest of them are hampered by being plumbline vertical &#8211; too perfect.</p>
<p>You have also pointed out the extreme extensions &#8211; I thought this might be exploited to give an otherworldly feeling, with limbs whipping around. But again &#8211; the arms are too perfect for someone possessed/frenzied.</p>
<p>Thank you again for the education!</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2024 04:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m embarrassed to admit that I knew of the German, woman&#039;s name pronounced &quot;Geese-a-lah&quot; (hard G) for years before realizing it was just a Germanic pronunciation of the name, Giselle. I think Giselle (soft G) is a beautiful name. Giselle (hard G) is not beautiful.

In a similar vein, until someone told me, I didn&#039;t figure out Jurgen is a form of George. (Which the Germans also pronounce with two hard Gs &quot;gay-org.&quot;)

And, of course, Diego is Spanish for James. Lots of confusion with those j and g sounds across languages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m embarrassed to admit that I knew of the German, woman&#8217;s name pronounced &#8220;Geese-a-lah&#8221; (hard G) for years before realizing it was just a Germanic pronunciation of the name, Giselle. I think Giselle (soft G) is a beautiful name. Giselle (hard G) is not beautiful.</p>
<p>In a similar vein, until someone told me, I didn&#8217;t figure out Jurgen is a form of George. (Which the Germans also pronounce with two hard Gs &#8220;gay-org.&#8221;)</p>
<p>And, of course, Diego is Spanish for James. Lots of confusion with those j and g sounds across languages.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2024 01:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey:

Coaches are generally very important. And it takes a long long time to prepare for a major role, ordinarily.]]></description>
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<p>Coaches are generally very important. And it takes a long long time to prepare for a major role, ordinarily.</p>
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