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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hubert.
My father is also a grad of the Benning School for Boys.  I&#039;m junior so there has been some confusion.
By the luck of the draw, or something, most of his guys were from the hills of the mid south.
He wouldn&#039;t hear a word against them as long as he lived.
They stayed in touch until they all faded away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubert.<br />
My father is also a grad of the Benning School for Boys.  I&#8217;m junior so there has been some confusion.<br />
By the luck of the draw, or something, most of his guys were from the hills of the mid south.<br />
He wouldn&#8217;t hear a word against them as long as he lived.<br />
They stayed in touch until they all faded away.</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 19:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey: nice story. I have a local friend who is also an alumnus of Benning School for Boys. He matriculated a little over ten years after your class and served with V Corps in Germany during the Cold War. He knows the song too.

Benning (I won&#039;t call it Moore) is enormous. It starts literally at the southern edge of Columbus and goes on for miles through the Georgia pine woods. I drive through it on the way to a destination in Stewart County. The route takes me right past the tank sheds, or some of them. I&#039;ve also visited the tank museum (officially the U.S. Army Armor &#038; Cavalry Museum--sorry, Collection) there. High-speed tour of the collection from a couple of years ago by The Chieftain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mls-W9nXebQ

Haven&#039;t been to the Infantry Museum yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Aubrey: nice story. I have a local friend who is also an alumnus of Benning School for Boys. He matriculated a little over ten years after your class and served with V Corps in Germany during the Cold War. He knows the song too.</p>
<p>Benning (I won&#8217;t call it Moore) is enormous. It starts literally at the southern edge of Columbus and goes on for miles through the Georgia pine woods. I drive through it on the way to a destination in Stewart County. The route takes me right past the tank sheds, or some of them. I&#8217;ve also visited the tank museum (officially the U.S. Army Armor &amp; Cavalry Museum&#8211;sorry, Collection) there. High-speed tour of the collection from a couple of years ago by The Chieftain:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mls-W9nXebQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mls-W9nXebQ</a></p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t been to the Infantry Museum yet.</p>
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		By: Richard+Aubrey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 19:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hubert.
Thanks for bringing up a memory...... Clears throat...&quot;Far across the Chattahoochee....&quot;
Having thieved the melody from Cornell
I was a 69 grad of Chattahoochee High, aka Infantry OCS at Benning.  We maneuvered on the Alabama side of the river, in Quitman County.  Quite a place.  When resupplied, the instructor would wrap a couple of turns of toilet paper--instructors got the good stuff--around a tree to notify the locals and we would deposit such of our C-ration cans as we didn&#039;t want to haul around--mostly Ham and  Limas--for the locals.  The machine gun teams were the gunner, the a-gunner and a kid with a basket to catch the brass for future sale.
One time, coming back from a week doing conventional stuff as opposed to Viet Nam-style snooping and pooping, we had some heavy equipment with us, shovels, axes and so forth.  Detoured to stop a brush fire threatening a shack out in the woods.  There&#039;s the homeowner and his wife with shovels.  Got it stopped, except for the outhouse.  Passed the hat.  Five bucks per Candidate, I suppose, was probably the best day that household had seen in some time.
Learned something every day, one way or another.

&quot;Make eye contact with a redneck, you don&#039;t have to check six.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubert.<br />
Thanks for bringing up a memory&#8230;&#8230; Clears throat&#8230;&#8221;Far across the Chattahoochee&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
Having thieved the melody from Cornell<br />
I was a 69 grad of Chattahoochee High, aka Infantry OCS at Benning.  We maneuvered on the Alabama side of the river, in Quitman County.  Quite a place.  When resupplied, the instructor would wrap a couple of turns of toilet paper&#8211;instructors got the good stuff&#8211;around a tree to notify the locals and we would deposit such of our C-ration cans as we didn&#8217;t want to haul around&#8211;mostly Ham and  Limas&#8211;for the locals.  The machine gun teams were the gunner, the a-gunner and a kid with a basket to catch the brass for future sale.<br />
One time, coming back from a week doing conventional stuff as opposed to Viet Nam-style snooping and pooping, we had some heavy equipment with us, shovels, axes and so forth.  Detoured to stop a brush fire threatening a shack out in the woods.  There&#8217;s the homeowner and his wife with shovels.  Got it stopped, except for the outhouse.  Passed the hat.  Five bucks per Candidate, I suppose, was probably the best day that household had seen in some time.<br />
Learned something every day, one way or another.</p>
<p>&#8220;Make eye contact with a redneck, you don&#8217;t have to check six.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 07:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MrsX
Sorry to hear that.  That the reverse is not remotely possible gives you a picture of the emotional...maturity?...sense of justice?...tolerance.?...of the two sides.

It also constrains your speech about various items and possibly even facial expressions at one or another piece of news.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MrsX<br />
Sorry to hear that.  That the reverse is not remotely possible gives you a picture of the emotional&#8230;maturity?&#8230;sense of justice?&#8230;tolerance.?&#8230;of the two sides.</p>
<p>It also constrains your speech about various items and possibly even facial expressions at one or another piece of news.</p>
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		By: MrsX		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 04:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[New York secular Jewish republican here. Hi, Esther! I’m still a registered democrat so I can vote in the primaries, where all the action is. I’d probably lose my job if colleagues knew I voted for Trump (not kidding).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York secular Jewish republican here. Hi, Esther! I’m still a registered democrat so I can vote in the primaries, where all the action is. I’d probably lose my job if colleagues knew I voted for Trump (not kidding).</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 02:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey: &quot;Rumor had it that the state police were broadcasting that no more guys with chain saws were necessary, as the place was overloaded. About twenty minutes.&quot; I believe it. Like the Cajun Navy during Hurricane Harvey.

Louis Ramey: &quot;Nothin but beer cans and shotgun shells.&quot; I&#039;ve been to places like that. We called one of them &quot;Bubbastan&quot;. It was an ATV track/shooting range in the woods on the Alabama side of the Chattahoochee River. Beer cans and shell casings all over the place. It&#039;s closed now, thank God.

Sharing Mr. Ramey with the class (cued up to the rednecks part):

https://youtu.be/KpSg8PfPQlU?si=bSEMokWsdnqgMSCJ&#038;t=203

Thanks for the laugh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Aubrey: &#8220;Rumor had it that the state police were broadcasting that no more guys with chain saws were necessary, as the place was overloaded. About twenty minutes.&#8221; I believe it. Like the Cajun Navy during Hurricane Harvey.</p>
<p>Louis Ramey: &#8220;Nothin but beer cans and shotgun shells.&#8221; I&#8217;ve been to places like that. We called one of them &#8220;Bubbastan&#8221;. It was an ATV track/shooting range in the woods on the Alabama side of the Chattahoochee River. Beer cans and shell casings all over the place. It&#8217;s closed now, thank God.</p>
<p>Sharing Mr. Ramey with the class (cued up to the rednecks part):</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/KpSg8PfPQlU?si=bSEMokWsdnqgMSCJ&#038;t=203" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/KpSg8PfPQlU?si=bSEMokWsdnqgMSCJ&#038;t=203</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the laugh.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2024 23:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hubert.
There&#039;s an interesting comedy bit on youtube, 
&quot;Rednecks&#039;  Louis Ramey.

Michigan sells 600k rifle deer permits every year.  That&#039;s a lot of guys who think they can walk through the woods with a  rifle to some end.  Half are right and the other half are saying, &quot;two more days, dammit&quot;.
Then there is  a bunch who can hit what they aim at but don&#039;t care for venison.

It&#039;s said that, from the earliest times to today, no militia order has ever gone out because...whatever&#039;s happening, guys have already shown up.

There was a straight-line wind hit a small town some years ago.  Trees everywhere including across every street.  Rumor had it that the state police were broadcasting that no more guys with chain saws were necessary, as the place was overloaded.  About twenty minutes.

If it were considered that a couple of dozen Michiganders with rifles would be necessary, or at least a good idea maybe, at a public event, I can&#039;t imagine the State&#039;s obstructions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubert.<br />
There&#8217;s an interesting comedy bit on youtube,<br />
&#8220;Rednecks&#8217;  Louis Ramey.</p>
<p>Michigan sells 600k rifle deer permits every year.  That&#8217;s a lot of guys who think they can walk through the woods with a  rifle to some end.  Half are right and the other half are saying, &#8220;two more days, dammit&#8221;.<br />
Then there is  a bunch who can hit what they aim at but don&#8217;t care for venison.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s said that, from the earliest times to today, no militia order has ever gone out because&#8230;whatever&#8217;s happening, guys have already shown up.</p>
<p>There was a straight-line wind hit a small town some years ago.  Trees everywhere including across every street.  Rumor had it that the state police were broadcasting that no more guys with chain saws were necessary, as the place was overloaded.  About twenty minutes.</p>
<p>If it were considered that a couple of dozen Michiganders with rifles would be necessary, or at least a good idea maybe, at a public event, I can&#8217;t imagine the State&#8217;s obstructions.</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2024 14:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey: one of the best compliments I ever received was when a southern colleague called me a &quot;redneck at heart&quot;. I don&#039;t think I rated it--e.g. I&#039;ve never fixed a broken-down truck in the rain and the mud, as one of my redneck friends has--but it was nice to hear.

Since we are talking elsewhere about October 7 and the hostages, that same friend observed that if there had been a squad of Alabama rednecks with AR-15s and shotguns at the Nova rave, the massacre wouldn&#039;t have happened. At least not to the attendees. There would have been bits and pieces of the paragliding terrorists scattered around, however.

Maybe this nickel will eventually drop with my co-religionists. But I wouldn&#039;t bet on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Aubrey: one of the best compliments I ever received was when a southern colleague called me a &#8220;redneck at heart&#8221;. I don&#8217;t think I rated it&#8211;e.g. I&#8217;ve never fixed a broken-down truck in the rain and the mud, as one of my redneck friends has&#8211;but it was nice to hear.</p>
<p>Since we are talking elsewhere about October 7 and the hostages, that same friend observed that if there had been a squad of Alabama rednecks with AR-15s and shotguns at the Nova rave, the massacre wouldn&#8217;t have happened. At least not to the attendees. There would have been bits and pieces of the paragliding terrorists scattered around, however.</p>
<p>Maybe this nickel will eventually drop with my co-religionists. But I wouldn&#8217;t bet on it.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2024 23:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco

Jews aren&#039;t the only ones looking down on rednecks and southerners.  Those groups have been nominated the subhuman population to which anyone, no matter how lacking in talent, accomplishment, or even manners can feel superior merely by sneering at them.

So if Jews who do think that way are to change their views, there&#039;ll be a fair amont of friction between them and their oh-so-superior friends.  Could slow down the process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco</p>
<p>Jews aren&#8217;t the only ones looking down on rednecks and southerners.  Those groups have been nominated the subhuman population to which anyone, no matter how lacking in talent, accomplishment, or even manners can feel superior merely by sneering at them.</p>
<p>So if Jews who do think that way are to change their views, there&#8217;ll be a fair amont of friction between them and their oh-so-superior friends.  Could slow down the process.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Disagree.  It matters how they vote in fragments of five metropolitan areas which collectively account for about 13% of the general population and close to half the Jewish population.  It also matters to whom they donate.  American Jews are an affluent and educated population.  Few of them will be  influenced by whichever schmuck is currently in charge of the Anti-Defamation League.  Most have no affiliation, so the opinions of the local Reform rabbi do not reach them.  
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I suspect the common life of the Jewish population would benefit if the ADL just disappeared.  It was prior to 1992 somewhat twee.  Abraham Foxman took to starting culture war pissing matches because of his own antagonisms and (one presumes) because he had time left over from the agency&#039;s vigorous efforts to get obscure radio announcers fired from their jobs.  Foxman&#039;s successor has made it an arm of the Democratic Party.  That does not benefit Jews.  Jews might benefit from an organized effort to stare down Arab revanchists on college campuses, but a new organization might be more appropriate to that task.  
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What would help outfits like J-Street and the ADL to disappear is if Jews at all social levels shut their wallets.  
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I think Jews in general would benefit from reflecting on who is congenial to them and who is not.  It isn&#039;t evangelicals and rednecks proposing mass property seizures to benefit regime pets.  They&#039;re not on college campuses agitating for the welfare of violent Arab revanchists, either.  There&#039;s a lesson in there if American Jews are willing to learn it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagree.  It matters how they vote in fragments of five metropolitan areas which collectively account for about 13% of the general population and close to half the Jewish population.  It also matters to whom they donate.  American Jews are an affluent and educated population.  Few of them will be  influenced by whichever schmuck is currently in charge of the Anti-Defamation League.  Most have no affiliation, so the opinions of the local Reform rabbi do not reach them.<br />
==<br />
I suspect the common life of the Jewish population would benefit if the ADL just disappeared.  It was prior to 1992 somewhat twee.  Abraham Foxman took to starting culture war pissing matches because of his own antagonisms and (one presumes) because he had time left over from the agency&#8217;s vigorous efforts to get obscure radio announcers fired from their jobs.  Foxman&#8217;s successor has made it an arm of the Democratic Party.  That does not benefit Jews.  Jews might benefit from an organized effort to stare down Arab revanchists on college campuses, but a new organization might be more appropriate to that task.<br />
==<br />
What would help outfits like J-Street and the ADL to disappear is if Jews at all social levels shut their wallets.<br />
==<br />
I think Jews in general would benefit from reflecting on who is congenial to them and who is not.  It isn&#8217;t evangelicals and rednecks proposing mass property seizures to benefit regime pets.  They&#8217;re not on college campuses agitating for the welfare of violent Arab revanchists, either.  There&#8217;s a lesson in there if American Jews are willing to learn it.</p>
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