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		By: Richard+Aubrey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 12:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Various songs with the autumn theme have a pretty serious impact.  I wonder if the melodies would also have the impact if you&#039;d never heard the lyrics.  Something about them, as well.

My father, born 1920, lived to 2014, remarked late in life that Sinatra&#039;s later work was designed to make you, the listener, think you&#039;d had the experience.

One of his albums, &quot;Songs for Swingin&#039; Lovers&quot;....   How many of us have been swingin&#039; lovers?  Dating&#039;s tough enough, and then you get married.  But, listen to the songs....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Various songs with the autumn theme have a pretty serious impact.  I wonder if the melodies would also have the impact if you&#8217;d never heard the lyrics.  Something about them, as well.</p>
<p>My father, born 1920, lived to 2014, remarked late in life that Sinatra&#8217;s later work was designed to make you, the listener, think you&#8217;d had the experience.</p>
<p>One of his albums, &#8220;Songs for Swingin&#8217; Lovers&#8221;&#8230;.   How many of us have been swingin&#8217; lovers?  Dating&#8217;s tough enough, and then you get married.  But, listen to the songs&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Karmi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 09:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly – very interesting, thanks for the info. The Wikipedia link said &quot;Afterschool programs for &lt;b&gt;16&lt;/b&gt;–18 year olds, teaching computer coding and hacking skills, also serve as feeder programs for the unit&quot; – and perhaps even a little younger with kids getting computers younger every year...and these smart phones. 

I was 46 before first computer (&#039;91/&#039;92)—a Dell Viper that ran over $4,000. Built a &lt;a href=&quot;https://karmismusingstech.com/index.php/2023/06/13/builds-upgrades-part-5-final-before-after/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;UserBenchmark UFO&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; last year for $1665.60 (used an old favorite case). Big difference in performance &#038; price over just a 32-year period. Have done some simple coding for a blog recently, even used AI for one app/widget, but that was time-consuming and difficult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus T. Firefly – very interesting, thanks for the info. The Wikipedia link said &#8220;Afterschool programs for <b>16</b>–18 year olds, teaching computer coding and hacking skills, also serve as feeder programs for the unit&#8221; – and perhaps even a little younger with kids getting computers younger every year&#8230;and these smart phones. </p>
<p>I was 46 before first computer (&#8217;91/&#8217;92)—a Dell Viper that ran over $4,000. Built a <a href="https://karmismusingstech.com/index.php/2023/06/13/builds-upgrades-part-5-final-before-after/" rel="nofollow ugc"><b>UserBenchmark UFO</b></a> last year for $1665.60 (used an old favorite case). Big difference in performance &amp; price over just a 32-year period. Have done some simple coding for a blog recently, even used AI for one app/widget, but that was time-consuming and difficult.</p>
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		By: T J		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 08:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zerohedge.com has picked up on the YouTube story above, by giving us the transcript: &quot;Eric Weinstein: &#039;I Don’t Know Whether Trump Will Be Allowed To Become President&#039; &quot;.

Go there if you prefer to read.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/eric-weinstein-i-dont-know-whether-trump-will-be-allowed-become-president]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zerohedge.com has picked up on the YouTube story above, by giving us the transcript: &#8220;Eric Weinstein: &#8216;I Don’t Know Whether Trump Will Be Allowed To Become President&#8217; &#8220;.</p>
<p>Go there if you prefer to read.<br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/eric-weinstein-i-dont-know-whether-trump-will-be-allowed-become-president" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/political/eric-weinstein-i-dont-know-whether-trump-will-be-allowed-become-president</a></p>
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		By: T J iIii		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 06:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric Weinstein is the former Managing Director of Thiel Capital, billionaire Peter Thiel’s venture capital outfit. This election is virtually the People vs the Deep State.

Eric Weinstein Explains Our Insane Election, the People vs The Deep State Without Ever Using The Term (but does use “The Blob”). Please listen to 1-13m

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYRYXhU4kxM&#038;t=11580s

At the outset, he raises the question of whether or not Trump will be permitted to take the office US President? And his answer is that with the International Rules Based Order reigning since the close of World War Two, the DC blob fears the collapse of its hegemony, descending into a more costly multi-polar world. Trump as the genuine voice of American democracy would very likely tip these institutions towards that end.

Will Trump be permitted to gain Presidential power at all? This is the real question. It explains why this year is “the most insane election year by an order of magnitude,” concludes Eric Weinstein.

For example, who is running the White Hose? It isn’t Biden. We don’t really know who is in power.… Powerfully put.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Weinstein is the former Managing Director of Thiel Capital, billionaire Peter Thiel’s venture capital outfit. This election is virtually the People vs the Deep State.</p>
<p>Eric Weinstein Explains Our Insane Election, the People vs The Deep State Without Ever Using The Term (but does use “The Blob”). Please listen to 1-13m</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYRYXhU4kxM&#038;t=11580s" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYRYXhU4kxM&#038;t=11580s</a></p>
<p>At the outset, he raises the question of whether or not Trump will be permitted to take the office US President? And his answer is that with the International Rules Based Order reigning since the close of World War Two, the DC blob fears the collapse of its hegemony, descending into a more costly multi-polar world. Trump as the genuine voice of American democracy would very likely tip these institutions towards that end.</p>
<p>Will Trump be permitted to gain Presidential power at all? This is the real question. It explains why this year is “the most insane election year by an order of magnitude,” concludes Eric Weinstein.</p>
<p>For example, who is running the White Hose? It isn’t Biden. We don’t really know who is in power.… Powerfully put.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/09/02/open-thread-9-2-24/#comment-2759618</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 05:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Rufus &#062; &quot;creating new hacks, finding new holes is almost always a young man’s game.&quot;

Which is why Orson Scott Card&#039;s &quot;Ender&#039;s Game&quot; used very young children to discover how to fight the adversarial extra-terrestrial attackers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rufus &gt; &#8220;creating new hacks, finding new holes is almost always a young man’s game.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is why Orson Scott Card&#8217;s &#8220;Ender&#8217;s Game&#8221; used very young children to discover how to fight the adversarial extra-terrestrial attackers.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 05:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PS The original Dowd post may be behind the NYTimes paywall. 
The Wayback machine has the story.

https://archive.is/HC1Dv
RTWT for a very interesting view of Karp, whose co-founder is Peter Thiel: a progressive and a conservative who get along well enough to create things like Palantir.
His political views are bipolar: donated to Biden and Harris, doesn&#039;t like Trump, but the values he claims to support, and seems to actually do so with the company, are megaMAGA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS The original Dowd post may be behind the NYTimes paywall.<br />
The Wayback machine has the story.</p>
<p><a href="https://archive.is/HC1Dv" rel="nofollow ugc">https://archive.is/HC1Dv</a><br />
RTWT for a very interesting view of Karp, whose co-founder is Peter Thiel: a progressive and a conservative who get along well enough to create things like Palantir.<br />
His political views are bipolar: donated to Biden and Harris, doesn&#8217;t like Trump, but the values he claims to support, and seems to actually do so with the company, are megaMAGA.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 05:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Mike Plaiss - here is the direct link to the post on Insty; click the LINK icon next to the byline to get it. Thanks for the heads-up.
https://instapundit.com/670115/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike Plaiss &#8211; here is the direct link to the post on Insty; click the LINK icon next to the byline to get it. Thanks for the heads-up.<br />
<a href="https://instapundit.com/670115/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://instapundit.com/670115/</a></p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 04:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Karmi,

Regarding Unit 8200 and the age range of 18-21...

I was a good computer hacker in my late &#039;20s* to mid-30s. Very good. (And always an ethical hacker, never did anything malicious.) I even headed up a practice doing cybersecurity (although we didn&#039;t call it that back then) for one of the big, international consulting firms. In my current job I&#039;m sort-of tangential to that world and now it&#039;s hard for me to relate to that former me.

But I think that is due to the age range you suggest. It takes a certain mindset to develop the skill and that will most often be found in young men. A lot of it for me was sport and to show off to my colleagues. Solving fun, difficult puzzles, and doing it before anyone else did, or in a way no one else ever thought of. It requires single-minded focus and isolation for long stretches. And creativity. One has to spend a lot of time alone, studying huge amounts of code, systems and processes just to develop the foundation and toolset necessary to find the holes.

I do know some people who have stayed in the game for their entire careers, but that&#039;s rare. And one rarely hears of an older computer security expert finding a new hack. Forensically figuring out what another hacker did, sure, but creating new hacks, finding new holes is almost always a young man&#039;s game. I imagine it&#039;s similar to being a Chess Master, also a young man&#039;s game.

*I didn&#039;t really have access to a computer until I was around 24.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karmi,</p>
<p>Regarding Unit 8200 and the age range of 18-21&#8230;</p>
<p>I was a good computer hacker in my late &#8217;20s* to mid-30s. Very good. (And always an ethical hacker, never did anything malicious.) I even headed up a practice doing cybersecurity (although we didn&#8217;t call it that back then) for one of the big, international consulting firms. In my current job I&#8217;m sort-of tangential to that world and now it&#8217;s hard for me to relate to that former me.</p>
<p>But I think that is due to the age range you suggest. It takes a certain mindset to develop the skill and that will most often be found in young men. A lot of it for me was sport and to show off to my colleagues. Solving fun, difficult puzzles, and doing it before anyone else did, or in a way no one else ever thought of. It requires single-minded focus and isolation for long stretches. And creativity. One has to spend a lot of time alone, studying huge amounts of code, systems and processes just to develop the foundation and toolset necessary to find the holes.</p>
<p>I do know some people who have stayed in the game for their entire careers, but that&#8217;s rare. And one rarely hears of an older computer security expert finding a new hack. Forensically figuring out what another hacker did, sure, but creating new hacks, finding new holes is almost always a young man&#8217;s game. I imagine it&#8217;s similar to being a Chess Master, also a young man&#8217;s game.</p>
<p>*I didn&#8217;t really have access to a computer until I was around 24.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 04:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay,

I remember seeing Pat Monahan on Greg Gutfeld&#039;s old show, &quot;Red Eye.&quot; He just may be a conservative...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay,</p>
<p>I remember seeing Pat Monahan on Greg Gutfeld&#8217;s old show, &#8220;Red Eye.&#8221; He just may be a conservative&#8230;</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 02:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Jerry Orbach

BJ:

And the guy who played the father in &quot;Dirty Dancing&quot; and &quot;Kiss of Death&quot; -- both films I&#039;ve watched more than twice. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Jerry Orbach</p>
<p>BJ:</p>
<p>And the guy who played the father in &#8220;Dirty Dancing&#8221; and &#8220;Kiss of Death&#8221; &#8212; both films I&#8217;ve watched more than twice. 🙂</p>
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