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		By: jimmy958		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimmy958]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2024 05:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan

As a matter of fact, . . .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, . . .</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2024 02:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ jimmy958 &#062; &quot;You think that’s bad?&quot;

Is this you??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ jimmy958 &gt; &#8220;You think that’s bad?&#8221;</p>
<p>Is this you??<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE</a></p>
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		By: Blackwing1		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blackwing1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 22:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For anything photographic, video, stereo, or just electronic in general I can VERY HIGHLY recommend B&#038;H Photo out of NYC.  It&#039;s not just an internet-only company...they&#039;ve got a huge retail presence in NYC, a well-designed web site, and they still allow ordering over the phone, which means you don&#039;t have to put credit card information out on the &#039;net.

Their customer service group is simply outstanding.  When ordering, you&#039;re talking to people (actual human beings) who know the product, and can make recommendations and suggestions.  I&#039;ve only had to return one product I&#039;ve ordered from them (the manufacturer&#039;s issue, not theirs) and it was simple and painless, and they credited my account as soon as they received the product.

I&#039;ve had outstanding customer service from them where they&#039;ve gone far beyond what I anticipated as a solution.  Their performance has made me a loyal customer, and I don&#039;t hesitate to suggest them as a vendor for anything they sell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anything photographic, video, stereo, or just electronic in general I can VERY HIGHLY recommend B&amp;H Photo out of NYC.  It&#8217;s not just an internet-only company&#8230;they&#8217;ve got a huge retail presence in NYC, a well-designed web site, and they still allow ordering over the phone, which means you don&#8217;t have to put credit card information out on the &#8216;net.</p>
<p>Their customer service group is simply outstanding.  When ordering, you&#8217;re talking to people (actual human beings) who know the product, and can make recommendations and suggestions.  I&#8217;ve only had to return one product I&#8217;ve ordered from them (the manufacturer&#8217;s issue, not theirs) and it was simple and painless, and they credited my account as soon as they received the product.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had outstanding customer service from them where they&#8217;ve gone far beyond what I anticipated as a solution.  Their performance has made me a loyal customer, and I don&#8217;t hesitate to suggest them as a vendor for anything they sell.</p>
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		By: Gordon Scott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 20:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to talk to Uber support almost daily. I have learned to speak clearly, in short sentences with short words. They have something which spits out endless &quot;I&#039;m so sorry you&#039;re having this problem. Please let me put you on a brief hold . . . . And it&#039;s usually brief. 

They do have a tendency to transfer me all over the place to different departments. 

One common problem: I get to a store for a pickup. I&#039;m told someone else has already picked up. Someone did, failed to mark the order picked up, and enjoyed the free meal. Then that driver cancels the order. So it shows on Uber that a new driver is needed. They bump the pay up some, and it goes to another driver, who arrives and is told &quot;already picked up.&quot; That driver hits cancel, and the order recycles to another driver, with more money added. This can happen five times!

It comes to me as a $35 fee to deliver a combo meal four miles away. I know what&#039;s coming. When the store tells me it&#039;s picked up, I ask, how much to remake it? If it&#039;s $10 or $12, I tell them I will pay, and do. Mark order received and head to customer--who I have messaged and apologized and told that I have personally paid for the food and I am coming. Customer is hungry, puzzled, but grateful to me.

I deliver, and the $35 fee is mine, less the cost, and $23 is a good payout for such a trip. I also report this to Uber, to three different people, and sometimes Uber will reimburse me.

Had I done the right thing by Uber policy, I call and report order picked up by another. Then Uber *may* give me $3 for the drive time and time spent on hold with support.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to talk to Uber support almost daily. I have learned to speak clearly, in short sentences with short words. They have something which spits out endless &#8220;I&#8217;m so sorry you&#8217;re having this problem. Please let me put you on a brief hold . . . . And it&#8217;s usually brief. </p>
<p>They do have a tendency to transfer me all over the place to different departments. </p>
<p>One common problem: I get to a store for a pickup. I&#8217;m told someone else has already picked up. Someone did, failed to mark the order picked up, and enjoyed the free meal. Then that driver cancels the order. So it shows on Uber that a new driver is needed. They bump the pay up some, and it goes to another driver, who arrives and is told &#8220;already picked up.&#8221; That driver hits cancel, and the order recycles to another driver, with more money added. This can happen five times!</p>
<p>It comes to me as a $35 fee to deliver a combo meal four miles away. I know what&#8217;s coming. When the store tells me it&#8217;s picked up, I ask, how much to remake it? If it&#8217;s $10 or $12, I tell them I will pay, and do. Mark order received and head to customer&#8211;who I have messaged and apologized and told that I have personally paid for the food and I am coming. Customer is hungry, puzzled, but grateful to me.</p>
<p>I deliver, and the $35 fee is mine, less the cost, and $23 is a good payout for such a trip. I also report this to Uber, to three different people, and sometimes Uber will reimburse me.</p>
<p>Had I done the right thing by Uber policy, I call and report order picked up by another. Then Uber *may* give me $3 for the drive time and time spent on hold with support.</p>
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		By: Paul Nachman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Nachman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 20:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, though live-but-dim human beings were a real service thing (and &lt;i&gt;disservice&lt;/i&gt; for their employers) decades ago and probably still are.

Experience 1.  1970.  Northfield, Minnesota.  I&#039;m a senior physics major at Carleton College.  At the local fast food (a one-off called &quot;Quarterback Club&quot;) I ordered several items for dinner totaling, in my head, $1.37 (all numbers approximately remembered).  The young-woman &quot;townie&quot; tending the cash register totals it up, gets $0.75.  I say, &quot;No, that&#039;s not right.&quot;  She does it again, winds up with $0.93.  &quot;No, try again.&quot;  Third time yields $1.19.  I&#039;d had enough, so that&#039;s what I paid.

Experience 2.  VISA credit card, mid-1980s.  Over the phone, purchased an airline ticket for an intra-California flight for something like $100.  Showed up at LAX the day of the flight, but it got cancelled because of weather (yes, &lt;i&gt;within&lt;/i&gt; California!), so I decided to drive and turned in my ticket at the airline counter for credit.  When that month&#039;s credit-card statement arrived, I paid it off in full (as usual) &lt;i&gt;less the amount of the ticket credit I expected to receive&lt;/i&gt;.  No problem.  

And then I received the credit, too, on the next statement (so now I&#039;m $100 ahead!).  I wrote to the card issuer saying that the $100 was theirs, not mine.  They wrote back saying that if I wanted the airline to bill me again, I should talk to the airline. ?!?!?!  So I left it at that, figuring, &quot;I&#039;m $100 ahead now.  Who knows where this will go if I try harder to educate these mopes?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, though live-but-dim human beings were a real service thing (and <i>disservice</i> for their employers) decades ago and probably still are.</p>
<p>Experience 1.  1970.  Northfield, Minnesota.  I&#8217;m a senior physics major at Carleton College.  At the local fast food (a one-off called &#8220;Quarterback Club&#8221;) I ordered several items for dinner totaling, in my head, $1.37 (all numbers approximately remembered).  The young-woman &#8220;townie&#8221; tending the cash register totals it up, gets $0.75.  I say, &#8220;No, that&#8217;s not right.&#8221;  She does it again, winds up with $0.93.  &#8220;No, try again.&#8221;  Third time yields $1.19.  I&#8217;d had enough, so that&#8217;s what I paid.</p>
<p>Experience 2.  VISA credit card, mid-1980s.  Over the phone, purchased an airline ticket for an intra-California flight for something like $100.  Showed up at LAX the day of the flight, but it got cancelled because of weather (yes, <i>within</i> California!), so I decided to drive and turned in my ticket at the airline counter for credit.  When that month&#8217;s credit-card statement arrived, I paid it off in full (as usual) <i>less the amount of the ticket credit I expected to receive</i>.  No problem.  </p>
<p>And then I received the credit, too, on the next statement (so now I&#8217;m $100 ahead!).  I wrote to the card issuer saying that the $100 was theirs, not mine.  They wrote back saying that if I wanted the airline to bill me again, I should talk to the airline. ?!?!?!  So I left it at that, figuring, &#8220;I&#8217;m $100 ahead now.  Who knows where this will go if I try harder to educate these mopes?&#8221;</p>
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		By: jimmy958		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimmy958]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 15:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You think that&#039;s bad? Just last week, I went so far down the rabbit hole with a company&#039;s chatbot that it set fire to my computer and caused it to explode. The fire spread and caused my house to burn down. I am now living in the middle of the road with nothing but an umbrella for shelter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think that&#8217;s bad? Just last week, I went so far down the rabbit hole with a company&#8217;s chatbot that it set fire to my computer and caused it to explode. The fire spread and caused my house to burn down. I am now living in the middle of the road with nothing but an umbrella for shelter.</p>
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		By: BrooklynBoy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrooklynBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are so right when you wrote that when you do get to speak to a real person (on Amazon in particular) they all have foreign accents and it is difficult at times to understand them. I find myself screaming at the chatbots which makes no sense at all. Verizon is even worse!

Donate the extra money to a worthy cause such as cancer or diabetes research.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right when you wrote that when you do get to speak to a real person (on Amazon in particular) they all have foreign accents and it is difficult at times to understand them. I find myself screaming at the chatbots which makes no sense at all. Verizon is even worse!</p>
<p>Donate the extra money to a worthy cause such as cancer or diabetes research.</p>
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		By: Jim Melcher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Melcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had a contractor, a friend also, actually, who wouldn’t send me a bill for replacing a patio door. I’d paid for the door, but still owed him for labor. (He had taken forever to do the job.) After requesting the bill, I asked a second time, telling him I wouldn’t be asking again. He never sent the bill. 

I think you’ve done your due diligence, Neo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a contractor, a friend also, actually, who wouldn’t send me a bill for replacing a patio door. I’d paid for the door, but still owed him for labor. (He had taken forever to do the job.) After requesting the bill, I asked a second time, telling him I wouldn’t be asking again. He never sent the bill. </p>
<p>I think you’ve done your due diligence, Neo.</p>
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		By: Cavendish		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cavendish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 05:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think perhaps, in a roundabout and stunningly inefficient way, Amazon may be telling you they are tired of dealing with you and no longer want your business. I have encountered a substantial number of businesses seemingly engaged in that very practice, several to the maximum degree possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think perhaps, in a roundabout and stunningly inefficient way, Amazon may be telling you they are tired of dealing with you and no longer want your business. I have encountered a substantial number of businesses seemingly engaged in that very practice, several to the maximum degree possible.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 02:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Niketas:

Thanks!

The &quot;language and grammar&quot; tag is because the spambots purport to understand language but they have very little understanding of it, and the customer has to choose on of their pre-canned tags instead.  In addition, there&#039;s the fact that even when a person answers, the accents are so thick it&#039;s hard to understand them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niketas:</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>The &#8220;language and grammar&#8221; tag is because the spambots purport to understand language but they have very little understanding of it, and the customer has to choose on of their pre-canned tags instead.  In addition, there&#8217;s the fact that even when a person answers, the accents are so thick it&#8217;s hard to understand them.</p>
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