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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2024 03:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: RFK Jr. dropping out, maybe supporting Trump

A betting website shows &lt;b&gt;the odds of RJK Jr dropping out have jumped from 50% to 97% in the past two days.&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;https://polymarket.com/event/will-rfk-drop-out-before-november?tid=1724297555031&lt;/i&gt;

Furthermore, it seems the RFK Jr. people have a bit of a grudge against the Dems....
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Robert Kennedy Jr.&#039;s running mate suggests ticket may drop out, join forces with Trump to stop Harris&lt;/b&gt;

...However, [Nicole Shanahan, RFK Jr. VP] accused the DNC of sabotage.

&quot;They have banned us, shadow-banned us, kept us off stages, manipulated polls, used lawfare against us, sued us in every possible state, they’ve even planted insiders into our campaign to disrupt it and to create actual legal issues for us,&quot; she said.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/robert-kennedy-jr-s-running-mate-suggests-ticket-may-drop-out-join-forces-trump-stop-harris&lt;/i&gt;
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2024 ... it was a very strange year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: RFK Jr. dropping out, maybe supporting Trump</p>
<p>A betting website shows <b>the odds of RJK Jr dropping out have jumped from 50% to 97% in the past two days.</b></p>
<p><i><a href="https://polymarket.com/event/will-rfk-drop-out-before-november?tid=1724297555031" rel="nofollow ugc">https://polymarket.com/event/will-rfk-drop-out-before-november?tid=1724297555031</a></i></p>
<p>Furthermore, it seems the RFK Jr. people have a bit of a grudge against the Dems&#8230;.<br />
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<p><i><b>Robert Kennedy Jr.&#8217;s running mate suggests ticket may drop out, join forces with Trump to stop Harris</b></p>
<p>&#8230;However, [Nicole Shanahan, RFK Jr. VP] accused the DNC of sabotage.</p>
<p>&#8220;They have banned us, shadow-banned us, kept us off stages, manipulated polls, used lawfare against us, sued us in every possible state, they’ve even planted insiders into our campaign to disrupt it and to create actual legal issues for us,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/media/robert-kennedy-jr-s-running-mate-suggests-ticket-may-drop-out-join-forces-trump-stop-harris" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/media/robert-kennedy-jr-s-running-mate-suggests-ticket-may-drop-out-join-forces-trump-stop-harris</a></i><br />
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<p>2024 &#8230; it was a very strange year.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2024 03:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The canceling of &quot;The Acolyte&quot; season 2 is another Bud Light. 

It was based on a fan revolt not to watch it, to criticize it relentlessly on social media and to sink the audience ratings below 20%.

The show&#039;s first season cost Disney over $180 million. The writer/director Leslye Headland and star actress Amandla Stenberg have lost millions in future work with Disney. They have likely crippled their careers in the meantime. 

Kathleen Kennedy, CEO of Lucasfilm, wanted &quot;The Acolyte&quot; to be the happy win upon which she could retire with satisfaction. Now, rumors are that half the Disney Board wants her out this year. She&#039;s lost enough money and ruined two huge franchises -- &quot;Star Wars&quot; and &quot;Indiana Jones.&quot;

Our friend, Critical Drinker, and his wingman, Nerdrotic, led the charge against Disney and were ... critical ... in attracting Elon Musk&#039;s attention to Disney&#039;s capitulation to the &quot;woke mind virus&quot; as Musk calls it. Here Drinker does a bit of grave dancing:

&lt;i&gt;--The Critical Drinker, &quot;No More Acolyte For You, Rebel Scum!&quot; (4:18)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyiHjQXn9Rc&lt;/i&gt;

Frankly, I&#039;m a bit surprised Critical Drinker is still alive. Fella like that could get hit by a car or shot by a mad trans person. It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if Drinker has taken some precautions. Hope so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The canceling of &#8220;The Acolyte&#8221; season 2 is another Bud Light. </p>
<p>It was based on a fan revolt not to watch it, to criticize it relentlessly on social media and to sink the audience ratings below 20%.</p>
<p>The show&#8217;s first season cost Disney over $180 million. The writer/director Leslye Headland and star actress Amandla Stenberg have lost millions in future work with Disney. They have likely crippled their careers in the meantime. </p>
<p>Kathleen Kennedy, CEO of Lucasfilm, wanted &#8220;The Acolyte&#8221; to be the happy win upon which she could retire with satisfaction. Now, rumors are that half the Disney Board wants her out this year. She&#8217;s lost enough money and ruined two huge franchises &#8212; &#8220;Star Wars&#8221; and &#8220;Indiana Jones.&#8221;</p>
<p>Our friend, Critical Drinker, and his wingman, Nerdrotic, led the charge against Disney and were &#8230; critical &#8230; in attracting Elon Musk&#8217;s attention to Disney&#8217;s capitulation to the &#8220;woke mind virus&#8221; as Musk calls it. Here Drinker does a bit of grave dancing:</p>
<p><i>&#8211;The Critical Drinker, &#8220;No More Acolyte For You, Rebel Scum!&#8221; (4:18)<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyiHjQXn9Rc" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyiHjQXn9Rc</a></i></p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;m a bit surprised Critical Drinker is still alive. Fella like that could get hit by a car or shot by a mad trans person. It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if Drinker has taken some precautions. Hope so.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/08/21/open-thread-8-21-24/#comment-2757543</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2024 02:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Open Thread mid week  - War in Russia (karma is a *itch, Vladdy):

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Ukraine can face a bigger Russian army - Anders Puck Nielsen&lt;/b&gt;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_80rUKItGc

&lt;blockquote&gt;
0:00 Intro
0:35 Ukraine&#039;s goals
1:57 Russia&#039;s military dilemma
3:22 Making the frontline longer
5:13 Putin&#039;s political dilemma
5:57 Three groups of soldiers
8:04 A trend toward escalation
9:08 Engaging the conscripts
11:39 Diversion from Ukraine frontline
12:20 Ukraine will face a conscript army
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open Thread mid week  &#8211; War in Russia (karma is a *itch, Vladdy):</p>
<p><b><br />
Ukraine can face a bigger Russian army &#8211; Anders Puck Nielsen</b></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_80rUKItGc" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_80rUKItGc</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
0:00 Intro<br />
0:35 Ukraine&#8217;s goals<br />
1:57 Russia&#8217;s military dilemma<br />
3:22 Making the frontline longer<br />
5:13 Putin&#8217;s political dilemma<br />
5:57 Three groups of soldiers<br />
8:04 A trend toward escalation<br />
9:08 Engaging the conscripts<br />
11:39 Diversion from Ukraine frontline<br />
12:20 Ukraine will face a conscript army
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:  Lue Elizondo on the UFO Phenomena

(The evidence is there, we are not alone and, perhaps, never have been, and this Reality has to be acknowledged by us, and by “the powers that be,” so that a new consensus reality can come into being, and a response by us humans can be created.)

Lue Elizondo&#039;s much anticipated book about the  UFO Phenomenon, “Imminent,” has just been released, and I&#039;m almost all the way through the audio version.

If you want to gain a thorough and authoritative overview the UFO Phenomena and it&#039;s implications from a government insider, this is the book—recent history of the subject, details of selected cases, information about the 80 year government cover up, current theories about how UFOs are able to accomplish their incredible “out of this world” maneuvers, and speculations about what the evidence tells us about whether the Non Human Intelligence (NHI) or Intelligences operating these UFOs are benign, neutral, or malevolent. 

Whatever their intent--the operations of these UFOs in our human airspace, over our cities and towns, near both our military and commercial aircraft, over and in our oceans and hovering around our warships, and particularly over sensitive nuclear research and storage facilities, over military bases, over and interfering with ours and the Russian&#039;s ICBM fields and launch systems, over military exercises, deployments, and combat operations, in near Earth orbit and, very likely, beyond--present the U.S. and the entire world with potential threats which need to be thoroughly investigated, somehow understood, and dealt with, and done so not several decades down the road, but now, and urgently.  

If understanding and solutions are to be found, a large part of the information which has been gathered about this subject--and been kept secret--needs to able to be examined by the world&#039;s entire scientific community, so that not just a few scientists, but an army of our “best and brightest” can gain the knowledge and understanding which will enable them to create our human response to this Phenomena, and to the Non Human Intelligences which operate them.  

This book will hopefully push both Disclosure and government action forward.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  Lue Elizondo on the UFO Phenomena</p>
<p>(The evidence is there, we are not alone and, perhaps, never have been, and this Reality has to be acknowledged by us, and by “the powers that be,” so that a new consensus reality can come into being, and a response by us humans can be created.)</p>
<p>Lue Elizondo&#8217;s much anticipated book about the  UFO Phenomenon, “Imminent,” has just been released, and I&#8217;m almost all the way through the audio version.</p>
<p>If you want to gain a thorough and authoritative overview the UFO Phenomena and it&#8217;s implications from a government insider, this is the book—recent history of the subject, details of selected cases, information about the 80 year government cover up, current theories about how UFOs are able to accomplish their incredible “out of this world” maneuvers, and speculations about what the evidence tells us about whether the Non Human Intelligence (NHI) or Intelligences operating these UFOs are benign, neutral, or malevolent. </p>
<p>Whatever their intent&#8211;the operations of these UFOs in our human airspace, over our cities and towns, near both our military and commercial aircraft, over and in our oceans and hovering around our warships, and particularly over sensitive nuclear research and storage facilities, over military bases, over and interfering with ours and the Russian&#8217;s ICBM fields and launch systems, over military exercises, deployments, and combat operations, in near Earth orbit and, very likely, beyond&#8211;present the U.S. and the entire world with potential threats which need to be thoroughly investigated, somehow understood, and dealt with, and done so not several decades down the road, but now, and urgently.  </p>
<p>If understanding and solutions are to be found, a large part of the information which has been gathered about this subject&#8211;and been kept secret&#8211;needs to able to be examined by the world&#8217;s entire scientific community, so that not just a few scientists, but an army of our “best and brightest” can gain the knowledge and understanding which will enable them to create our human response to this Phenomena, and to the Non Human Intelligences which operate them.  </p>
<p>This book will hopefully push both Disclosure and government action forward.</p>
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		By: Bob Wilson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2024 00:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Physicsguy, many of the Republicans tossed out in the Wyoming primary were rinos. A lot of this is due to activist Andy Roth, who founded the state freedom caucus Nettwerk
https://sfcn.substack.com/
There’s still a lot of work to be done in Wyoming. In this state  with a huge energy industry, their Rino governor, Mark Gordon,  is a dedicated climatista. The freedom caucus in the legislature is fighting back, but will have to wait a couple years to kick Gordon out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Physicsguy, many of the Republicans tossed out in the Wyoming primary were rinos. A lot of this is due to activist Andy Roth, who founded the state freedom caucus Nettwerk<br />
<a href="https://sfcn.substack.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://sfcn.substack.com/</a><br />
There’s still a lot of work to be done in Wyoming. In this state  with a huge energy industry, their Rino governor, Mark Gordon,  is a dedicated climatista. The freedom caucus in the legislature is fighting back, but will have to wait a couple years to kick Gordon out.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, so Biden is back to baffling everyone with his bullshit: https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-harris-speak-with-netanyahu-as-pessimism-grows-around-hostage-talks/

Don&#039;t think that will work with Bibi though. He&#039;s not likely to cave on his few war aims here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, so Biden is back to baffling everyone with his bullshit: <a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-harris-speak-with-netanyahu-as-pessimism-grows-around-hostage-talks/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-harris-speak-with-netanyahu-as-pessimism-grows-around-hostage-talks/</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think that will work with Bibi though. He&#8217;s not likely to cave on his few war aims here.</p>
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		By: David+Foster		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/08/21/open-thread-8-21-24/#comment-2757517</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David+Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a new Worth Pondering post up, this one with a quote from Aldous Huxley:

https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/71542.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a new Worth Pondering post up, this one with a quote from Aldous Huxley:</p>
<p><a href="https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/71542.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/71542.html</a></p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/08/21/open-thread-8-21-24/#comment-2757499</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 20:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Liz, in NC we are much the same, although we have a longer early voting period courtesy of the Fourth Circuit Appeals Court which insists than anything less than two weeks or so is &quot;racist.&quot; Photo ID required. Notarization of absentee ballots mailed in is not required, but the ballot must be requested (no mass mailings) and the return envelope has a special outer envelope for a photocopy of the voter&#039;s photo ID. Those lacking the ID and signatures are not counted. Mailed absentee ballots must be received by close of voting on Election Day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, in NC we are much the same, although we have a longer early voting period courtesy of the Fourth Circuit Appeals Court which insists than anything less than two weeks or so is &#8220;racist.&#8221; Photo ID required. Notarization of absentee ballots mailed in is not required, but the ballot must be requested (no mass mailings) and the return envelope has a special outer envelope for a photocopy of the voter&#8217;s photo ID. Those lacking the ID and signatures are not counted. Mailed absentee ballots must be received by close of voting on Election Day.</p>
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		By: Liz		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2024/08/21/open-thread-8-21-24/#comment-2757495</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 20:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A review of the absentee ballot process in Oklahoma indicated that we have a solid process. This is a link to a 3 page exec summary of the process.

https://okloft.gov/reports/absentee-voting/executive-summary

A standard absentee ballot has to be notarized and be at the county election board by 7 pm on election day. Members of the county absentee voting board will go to nursing homes and vet centers to do the verification, which prevents anyone with a notary seal to go in and essentially do ballot harvesting, which is illegal in OK.

About 80% of voters go vote on election day since it is usually easier to go in person.  We have 1,984 precincts which is about 2,000 residents per precinct, so rarely have long lines or lack of supplies.  I vote around 10 am, to avoid any crowds due to pre and post work times as well as lunch/dinner times.

We have voter id but photo is not required since the voter registration card will do.  But, most people just pull out the driver license.  Vote on paper ballots, scan in optical reader, no internet connection, ballots retained for at least 2 years.  In OK County, a lot of the voting is at churches since they usually have adequate meeting rooms as well as large parking lots.  One year, a tornado damaged a polling place but, they had a nearby replacement site identified within a day. 

Results start posting at 7 pm for the early voting (2.5 to 3 days prior to election day) as well as for the absentee ballots.  The in person results start rolling in by 8 pm and usually finished by 10-11 pm. 

I&#039;d be interested in reading how other states do the voting...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A review of the absentee ballot process in Oklahoma indicated that we have a solid process. This is a link to a 3 page exec summary of the process.</p>
<p><a href="https://okloft.gov/reports/absentee-voting/executive-summary" rel="nofollow ugc">https://okloft.gov/reports/absentee-voting/executive-summary</a></p>
<p>A standard absentee ballot has to be notarized and be at the county election board by 7 pm on election day. Members of the county absentee voting board will go to nursing homes and vet centers to do the verification, which prevents anyone with a notary seal to go in and essentially do ballot harvesting, which is illegal in OK.</p>
<p>About 80% of voters go vote on election day since it is usually easier to go in person.  We have 1,984 precincts which is about 2,000 residents per precinct, so rarely have long lines or lack of supplies.  I vote around 10 am, to avoid any crowds due to pre and post work times as well as lunch/dinner times.</p>
<p>We have voter id but photo is not required since the voter registration card will do.  But, most people just pull out the driver license.  Vote on paper ballots, scan in optical reader, no internet connection, ballots retained for at least 2 years.  In OK County, a lot of the voting is at churches since they usually have adequate meeting rooms as well as large parking lots.  One year, a tornado damaged a polling place but, they had a nearby replacement site identified within a day. </p>
<p>Results start posting at 7 pm for the early voting (2.5 to 3 days prior to election day) as well as for the absentee ballots.  The in person results start rolling in by 8 pm and usually finished by 10-11 pm. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in reading how other states do the voting&#8230;</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 20:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/democrats-weaponizing-no-fly-lists-gun-owners-could-be-next/
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Another item for the file marked &#039;crimes of partisan Democrats in official positions.]]></description>
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Another item for the file marked &#8216;crimes of partisan Democrats in official positions.</p>
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